Yeah I have the paperwork for my CR around somewhere I really need to get it in.
Yeah I have the paperwork for my CR around somewhere I really need to get it in.
Woody wrote: Ask them the names of their parents and grandparents, where they were born and where they're buried. If you ever get into genealogy, those little bits of info can save you a year's work. If they were immigrants, ask what year they came over, what port they entered and the name of the ship.
Unfortunately, my grandfather was a bastard. He does not know who his father was. He isn't even sure where, or even what year he was born. Less than 10 years ago he came across a letter his mom had written to her parents that leads him to think his birth place and year are not what he'd thought.
He does not have a birth certificate.
Actually, that's another cool story of his, about how he managed to enlist into flight training with the navy, without his birth certificate. To this day, he uses his military ID as his proof of birth citizenship.
Strizzo wrote: don't you know, ignorant? its ok for you to have all the guns you want, just not everyone else. someone has to protect the others from themselves, or something
tell me anywhere where I have said I am against the 2nd amendment.. Do it..
If only half the stuff my grandfather told me was true, it was a heck of a ride. A lot of stuff he wasn't proud of, but he never denied doing them. Write them down, record them, try to save what you can, because when the old guys pass, they, and their tales, are gone forever. Besides being a bootlegger and smuggler, mine had some amazing war stories. I wish I hadn't been so young when he passed.
My grandfather told a story about him standing guard in a french farm house while other soldiers slept downstairs. The french family was upstairs and the baby was crying the whole night. He said he was falling asleep and leaned on his rifle; accidentally firing off a round.( I guess he was tired). The baby instantly stopped crying and my grandpa sat up the rest of the night thinking he just shot a baby.
In the morning the french farmer lady came down stairs and thanked everyone for quieting the baby. They hadn't sleep so good in a long time. She was so happy she cooked them breakfast.
He was a pontiac mechanic before and after the war. He applied to the airforce trying to be an aircraft mechanic due to his skillset. His army draft papers reached him before the airforce stuff came through and he got the acceptance letter to the airforce on the boat over to england for the build up for D day.
Wish I talked to him more now..
I had three grandfathers; all three died before I was born. Yeah, weird. My dad is getting up there but his mind is still sharp; he's been playing on his computer and sending me stuff that he remembers. I've been burning that stuff to CD, one day I'll be glad to have it.
He joined the Navy right at the end of WWII and the war ended right after he finished basic so he doesn't have any real good war tales. He did tell me something recently that I wasn't aware of: at one point, there was a call for volunteers to go into a chamber where they were testing some sort of new tear gas. The volunteers would get a three day pass and he was right outside of DC where there were plenty of unattached womenfolk. 
So he volunteered, did the bit in the test chamber, got his 3 day pass and the researchers discovered later this gas could lead to permanent lung damage. 
To this day he still gets a military disability check (~ $225.00) every month.
ignorant wrote:Strizzo wrote: don't you know, ignorant? its ok for you to have all the guns you want, just not everyone else. someone has to protect the others from themselves, or somethingtell me anywhere where I have said I am against the 2nd amendment.. Do it..
I think he was just joking about liberal stereotypes, you know, the same thing that you were doing in the post he was responding to. Take a deep breath.
16vCorey wrote:ignorant wrote:I think he was just joking about liberal stereotypes, you know, the same thing that you were doing in the post he was responding to. Take a deep breath.Strizzo wrote: don't you know, ignorant? its ok for you to have all the guns you want, just not everyone else. someone has to protect the others from themselves, or somethingtell me anywhere where I have said I am against the 2nd amendment.. Do it..
word...
humor and sarcasm don't trasmit well on the intertubes and I should know that by now.. d0h
ignorant wrote:16vCorey wrote:word... humor and sarcasm don't trasmit well on the intertubes and I should know that by now.. d0hignorant wrote:I think he was just joking about liberal stereotypes, you know, the same thing that you were doing in the post he was responding to. Take a deep breath.Strizzo wrote: don't you know, ignorant? its ok for you to have all the guns you want, just not everyone else. someone has to protect the others from themselves, or somethingtell me anywhere where I have said I am against the 2nd amendment.. Do it..
so I'm not the only Gun totting liberal.
back on topic I wish I had listened to more stories from my Granfathers. My paternal Granfather was a hell raiser during his teen years in the depresion. He was in the navy wrenching on PBY5s in the south pacific during the war. My dad still has his fathers knife from the war. That knive was used to kill at least one japanes.
My maternal Granfather was army in the south pacific and IIRC had been MIA for 2 1/2 years.
My granmothers second husband was Air Corp. ground crew in england.
they all died between '93-'99
I only ever knew one of my 4 grandparents, and she died when I was 7 or 8. We're a short-lived gang.
Gramps may have used "1911" in the generic sense, to include 1911's and the later 1911A1's. During WWII they churned out LOTS of 1911A1's.
I was issued a 1911A1 .45 in 1990 for Desert Shield/Desert Storm - in a Regular Army, FORSCOM unit. Our reservist counterparts had M9's (Beretta 9mm) by then. We didn't trade the .45's in until '92.
Personally, I was sad to see them go.
My Grandad once shot a man just to watch him die. 
My Dad was born in 1904, worked for the Corps of Engineers in the 30's and early 40's. Surveyor and heavy equipment operator. Was the lead surveyor at Oak Ridge and several TVA dams. Enlisted in the Navy Sea Bees in '44, at the age of 40 and was sent to Iwo Jima for the invasion. We all know that that was pure hell, and the See Bees were first in. He came home with 2 Purple Hearts and several other medals. His belly was a mass of scars. Never told a single story about it. He died in '64 when I was 19. I still miss him. He never saw any of his grandkids, they would have loved him.
slantvaliant wrote: Gramps may have used "1911" in the generic sense, to include 1911's and the later 1911A1's. During WWII they churned out LOTS of 1911A1's. I was issued a 1911A1 .45 in 1990 for Desert Shield/Desert Storm - in a Regular Army, FORSCOM unit. Our reservist counterparts had M9's (Beretta 9mm) by then. We didn't trade the .45's in until '92. Personally, I was sad to see them go.
Like I said, we still have that gun. I'm not sure precisely if it's a 1911 or 1911A1. I know that it's sort of olive colored, carries 7 rounds of .45ACP, and has the best trigger break I've ever felt.
As for getting the stories down, we have a pretty good system. I'm recording him telling them (I switched from using micro-cassettes to a digital recorder) and then transcribing them later. That way, if I screw around because I'm young and stupid, and don't get all my work done before he kicks the bucket, at least we have the stories recorded. I hope that doesn't happen.
Also, with me recording the stories, he's more apt to just tell them without thinking about it or editing them in his head. I get to hear the raw stories just like he'd tell them hanging out at a restaurant. He tells better stories when he's not trying to.
1911A1's have scallops on the frame behind the trigger. Other differences include the size of the sights, the shape of the hammer spur, length of the grip safety, shape of the mainspring housing, length of the trigger, etc. All of those parts including the slide are interchangeable, so they aren't definitive. The changes were supposed to make the pistol point better and fit more people. The .45's still in service during my career were interesting mixes of WWII -A1 frames and assorted vintage slides and replacement parts. Most were, shall we say, well broken in.
slantvaliant wrote: 1911A1's have scallops on the frame behind the trigger. Other differences include the size of the sights, the shape of the hammer spur, length of the grip safety, shape of the mainspring housing, length of the trigger, etc. All of those parts including the slide are interchangeable, so they aren't definitive. The changes were supposed to make the pistol point better and fit more people. The .45's still in service during my career were interesting mixes of WWII -A1 frames and assorted vintage slides and replacement parts. Most were, shall we say, well broken in. 1911 vs 1911A1
Judging by the pictures, I want to say ours is an A1. My grandfather and dad have worked it over significantly since my grandfather first got it.
Xceler8x wrote: My Grandad once shot a man just to watch him die.
My great grandmother shot and killed two men, though it was during the depression and they were trying to break into the farm house. Great grandma was a tough old gal and they didn't believe her when she said she would shoot them.
My grandfather on my father's side served in WWII watching German POWs near the end of the war. He didn't see any action aside from dodging the occasional Nazi artillery barrage, or at least that's what he tells us (he doens't like talking about his war experiences). He was fond of telling this story, though:
Grandpa usually lugged around a 50lb. rucksack and a 20lb. Browning Automatic Rifle (a.k.a. the B.A.R., which is one BFG). One day, one of his buddies was injured by shrapnel from a shell while on a march through some late winter mud and freezing rain. His buddy also had a 50lb. rucksack and a 9lb. M1 Garand rifle. In order to get the wounded solider to saftey, the unit had to get to the camp they were assigned to march to 10mi east of their position. So Grandpa marched all 10mi in the mud with 129lb of equipment on him in the rain and mud. He got nicknamed "Pack-Mule" by one of his pals.
One of the times I felt proudest was when Grandpa came to my high school's Army JROTC pass-and-review. I was one of the rifle-bearers in the color guard, using a demilitarized M1 (rod welded into barrel so it couldn't be loaded/fired). After the ceremonies, my instructors gave me permission to let Grandpa pick up the M1. He started tearing up. I'm lucky that he's still around; he's one of the people I most admire.
If you flew a Douglas bomber in the war, chances are my great grandma riveted on it.I'm connected to every B-26 in a Kevin Bacon sort of way.
ignorant wrote: I am against the 2nd amendment. And I put puppies in bags and throw them into rivers when I'm bored.
I found it!
The Dominion Institute and the Canadian government put together a program called The Memory Project. They've basically gone around to as many veterans as possible and collected an oral history. This has been digitized and is available on line. They also arrange to bring veterans into classrooms to speak directly and frankly about their experiences. My eldest daughter has had a WW2 Spitfire pilot speak to her Grade 9 class and they also brought in a 20 year old veteran of the Afghanistan war. I don't mind my taxes going towards this. If anyone is interested the project can be found at http://www.thememoryproject.com/index.asp
rebelgtp wrote:Xceler8x wrote: My Grandad once shot a man just to watch him die.My great grandmother shot and killed two men, though it was during the depression and they were trying to break into the farm house. Great grandma was a tough old gal and they didn't believe her when she said she would shoot them.
I was just quoting Johnny Cash. Far as I know I don't have any killers in my family. Your great gam-gam sounds tough.
confuZion3 wrote:ignorant wrote: I am against the 2nd amendment. And I put puppies in bags and throw them into rivers when I'm bored.I found it!
but they were ugly puppies.
ignorant wrote:confuZion3 wrote:but they were ugly puppies.ignorant wrote: I am against the 2nd amendment. And I put puppies in bags and throw them into rivers when I'm bored.I found it!
Hey, I'm not here to judge you! (And for the record, there are no ugly puppies.)
confuZion3 wrote:ignorant wrote:Hey, I'm not here to judge you! (And for the record, there are no ugly puppies.)confuZion3 wrote:but they were ugly puppies.ignorant wrote: I am against the 2nd amendment. And I put puppies in bags and throw them into rivers when I'm bored.I found it!
Oh, I disagree. Here's proof: ugly puppies
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