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JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
8/5/13 9:31 p.m.

http://jalopnik.com/why-is-this-500-000-electric-car-collecting-dust-in-ro-875060713

(..and before you ask, no, I was not reading jalopnik. I was reading io9, and it was linked.)

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro UltraDork
8/5/13 10:20 p.m.

There's one in the LeMay museum in Tacoma..

Aeromoto
Aeromoto Dork
8/5/13 10:27 p.m.

Uuhhhgg. Kill it with fire, and extinguish it with piss.

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
8/5/13 10:57 p.m.

Their front looked good. An insight-like rear end could have made them more marketable to the public

Appleseed
Appleseed UltimaDork
8/6/13 12:06 a.m.

The rear of that had an ass only a Seuss could love.

codrus
codrus HalfDork
8/6/13 12:17 a.m.
Appleseed wrote: The rear of that had an ass only a Seuss could love.

Or a wind tunnel...

BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon Dork
8/6/13 4:44 a.m.

There's one at the Peterson museum, too. GM mandated that any not crushed be made inoperable. If anyone hasn't seen the documentary "who killed the electric car" I very highly recommend it.

Derick Freese
Derick Freese UltraDork
8/6/13 5:00 a.m.

In reply to BoostedBrandon:

We're GRM. How many guys here are into electrons? Seems to be quite a few.

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
8/6/13 5:48 a.m.
BoostedBrandon wrote: There's one at the Peterson museum, too. GM mandated that any not crushed be made inoperable. If anyone hasn't seen the documentary "who killed the electric car" I very highly recommend it.

If you liked that, you should watch Paine's 2011 sequel Revenge of the Electric Car. It ought to have been subtitled, "Oops! My Bad...."

It is fun to see the same group of people who originally portrayed GM as one of a cast of villains turn around and treat them and the volt project like a plucky upstart. Naturally, the second film didn't do as well as the first one.....it is much easier to sell the public on the supposed evils of a large corporation than it is to engage in boosterism.

BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon Dork
8/6/13 6:40 a.m.

Yeah I've seen the sequel. I am convinced Elon Musk is a bond villain.

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
8/6/13 6:42 a.m.
BoostedBrandon wrote: Yeah I've seen the sequel. I am convinced Elon Musk is a bond villain.

You just made me giggle....that seems like it might be a little too close to the truth.

EvanB
EvanB PowerDork
8/6/13 7:12 a.m.

I kinda like the way it looks.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden SuperDork
8/6/13 7:21 a.m.

There is one at Mott College , Flint MI. It is a green one.

volvoclearinghouse
volvoclearinghouse HalfDork
8/6/13 7:21 a.m.

Am I the only one who envisions a 455 Toronado drivetrain wedged into the back?

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt UltraDork
8/6/13 7:44 a.m.
JoeyM wrote:
BoostedBrandon wrote: Yeah I've seen the sequel. I am convinced Elon Musk is a bond villain.
You just made me giggle....that seems like it might be a little too close to the truth.

Never thought of him that way before, but if he starts building his next mansion underground in Costa Rica, we'd better watch out.

dean1484
dean1484 UberDork
8/6/13 8:29 a.m.

You know if you took an Oldsmobile aurora and made it in to a electric vehicle and did a couple minor mods to the bodywork you would have a really good facsimile of an EV1

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
8/6/13 8:37 a.m.

Yeah, the back end is the same, but the bigger four door body probably adds a lot of weight....OTOH, more room for batteries.

slantvaliant
slantvaliant SuperDork
8/6/13 8:38 a.m.
JoeyM wrote:
BoostedBrandon wrote: There's one at the Peterson museum, too. GM mandated that any not crushed be made inoperable. If anyone hasn't seen the documentary "who killed the electric car" I very highly recommend it.
If you liked that, you should watch Paine's 2011 sequel Revenge of the Electric Car. It ought to have been subtitled, "Oops! My Bad...."

You'll need one of these when watching either:

Enyar
Enyar HalfDork
8/6/13 8:44 a.m.

What is that?

mtn
mtn UltimaDork
8/6/13 8:44 a.m.
dean1484 wrote: You know if you took an Oldsmobile aurora and made it in to a electric vehicle and did a couple minor mods to the bodywork you would have a really good facsimile of an EV1

You're right. Which is odd, because whereas the EV1 is somewhat of an ugly Saturn crossed with an Insight, the Aurora is one of the better looking sedans of all time IMHO.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
8/6/13 8:58 a.m.
Enyar wrote: What is that?

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
8/6/13 9:12 a.m.
Enyar wrote: What is that?

It's a really bug hunk of rock salt; i.e. you need to watch them with more than just "a grain of salt".

FWIW, I agree wholeheartedly. GM is just a corporation, and thus neither as evil as portrayed in the first film or as benevolent as depicted in the second one. Documentary film makers want to engage their audience, so the films tend to have an Evil Overlord or a Plucky Hero......regardless of the fact that the truth is usually somewhere between the two.

Generally speaking, a nuanced treatment of the subject of a film is frowned upon.....film makers tend to think that a more accurate, multifaceted portrayal of the subject will mess up their sweeping narrative, and make it difficult for the audience to follow. (...and thus, they sweep important details and analysis under the rug as though they are unimportant)

I have not yet determined if the documentary filmmakers are under - or over - estimating their audience.

mtn
mtn UltimaDork
8/6/13 9:56 a.m.
JoeyM wrote:
Enyar wrote: What is that?
It's a really bug hunk of rock salt; i.e. you need to watch them with more than just "a grain of salt". FWIW, I agree wholeheartedly. GM is just a corporation, and thus neither as evil as portrayed in the first film or as benevolent as depicted in the second one. Documentary film makers want to engage their audience, so the films tend to have an Evil Overlord or a Plucky Hero......regardless of the fact that the truth is usually somewhere between the two. Generally speaking, a nuanced treatment of the subject of a film is frowned upon.....film makers tend to think that a more accurate, multifaceted portrayal of the subject will mess up their sweeping narrative, and make it difficult for the audience to follow. (...and thus, they sweep important details and analysis under the rug as though they are unimportant) I have not yet determined if the documentary filmmakers are under - or over - estimating their audience.

I'll say that Ken Burns, whatever your opinion of him and his films, gets it right. Or at least he did in the Civil War and The War. Of course, those are much different subject matters, and I have taken us on a big tangent.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve UltimaDork
8/6/13 9:59 a.m.

Why don't people get equally up in arms about the Citicar?

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
8/6/13 10:04 a.m.

The citicar was not leased to hollywood types, who fell in love with the car, only then to have the lease ended. What do you think angry movie producers do? Movie people who treat a business decision like it is a personal attack are going to .....make movies?

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