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nocones
nocones SuperDork
6/23/14 4:59 p.m.

Other than awesome what is the Mazda 6 hatch?

nicksta43
nicksta43 UltraDork
6/23/14 5:03 p.m.

What I need is the correct terminology to differentiate between what I'm calling a hatchback and a coupe. They are not the same type of car. In my oxygen deprived brain a hatchback is a class of car.

Sedan

Coupe

Suv

Truck

Van

Hatchback

Wagon

You all are trying to lump to different categories together in my mind.

Wally
Wally MegaDork
6/23/14 5:05 p.m.

So the Civic and RSX are totally different cars, and the RSX and the Nova are the same? Got it. What is the three doored Escort?

Edit: Or the five door Escort. It's rear is sloped dangerously close to being not a hatchback.

nicksta43
nicksta43 UltraDork
6/23/14 5:10 p.m.

In reply to Wally:

Yes. One is a hatchback and one is a coupe.

The three and five door escorts are hatches.

SkinnyG
SkinnyG Dork
6/23/14 5:14 p.m.

I don't know what all the fuss is about.

Those were some sweet 3-door and 5-door cars posted above.

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle Reader
6/23/14 5:21 p.m.

Hinges at top = hatchback

Trunk = coupe

Potato pickle tranny miata

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle Reader
6/23/14 5:22 p.m.
OHSCrifle wrote: Hinges at top = hatchback Trunk = coupe Potato pickle tranny miata

Correction

2 doors with trunk = Coupe

nicksta43
nicksta43 UltraDork
6/23/14 5:32 p.m.
SkinnyG wrote: I don't know what all the fuss is about. Those were some sweet 3-door and 5-door cars posted above.

I had a slow day at work and the thread the other day where the guy asked for a hot hatch and got the suggestion of an RSX struck a nerve. In my mind an RSX is a small sporty coupe while a GTI or ST Focus or Fiesta would be hot hatches.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
6/23/14 5:51 p.m.

In reply to oldeskewltoy:

Who the hell cares what Toyota thinks?

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
6/23/14 5:55 p.m.
nicksta43 wrote:
bravenrace wrote:
nicksta43 wrote:
bravenrace wrote:
nicksta43 wrote: Okay, then what differentiates these two completely different body types?
That's the thing, they aren't completely different. They are actually quite similar. For the most part, only the angle of the hatch differentiates them as far as body style.
Wrong, all of the examples of coupes have sheet metal extending out past where the window stops horizontally.
So do many of the hatchbacks.
Um, no not really. Look at all of those cars in profile and tell me what the first group has in common with the second. I mean just trace an outline around the body, in black and white. The two groups are as different as pickup trucks and vans.

You know what? Even though virtually everyone disagrees with you, you win because I'm starting to not care...Actually I stopped caring a couple hours ago, but whatever...

Kia_Racer
Kia_Racer Dork
6/23/14 6:01 p.m.

I don't see why a car where the "hatch" is in a more horizontal position cannot be both a coupe and a hatchback/liftback.

If a wagon can have a hatchback like the Volvo or a tailgate like the Pontiac. Why not coupes?

nicksta43
nicksta43 UltraDork
6/23/14 6:07 p.m.

In reply to bravenrace:

It's okay man. I understand

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
6/23/14 6:13 p.m.

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy SuperDork
6/23/14 6:23 p.m.

To Bravenrace

Beer Baron wrote:

in reality... not nicksta43's reality... but reality for the rest of us....

it just doesn't matter....

The only time it matters is when getting parts... then you kinda NEED to know how the factory referred to it to make sure you are getting the right part.......

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
6/23/14 6:27 p.m.

All them pretty pictures.

And nothing proven.

Call it what ever you want.

wbjones
wbjones UltimaDork
6/23/14 6:39 p.m.

plus this comes up about once a yr … same people with the same opinions

whatever … I know that the cars I've had were hatchbacks … if you don't want to call them that .. fine ….

nicksta43
nicksta43 UltraDork
6/23/14 6:41 p.m.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

Really though it doesn't matter and even with the warning in the thread title all it really proved is that we, in general, will argue about anything.

I still haven't found any sources stating that a coupe has to have a trunk.

RealMiniDriver
RealMiniDriver UltraDork
6/23/14 6:47 p.m.

The first time I ever heard the term "hatchback" was when our neighbor, whose father worked for AMC, brought home a new one of these:

ronholm
ronholm HalfDork
6/23/14 6:51 p.m.

Can we call them a Coupe with a hatch on the back?

ryanty22
ryanty22 HalfDork
6/23/14 6:54 p.m.
RealMiniDriver wrote: The first time I ever heard the term "hatchback" was when our neighbor, whose father worked for AMC, brought home a new one of these:

Thats an awesome hot hatch

nicksta43
nicksta43 UltraDork
6/23/14 7:08 p.m.

In reply to ronholm:

Sure

oldsaw
oldsaw PowerDork
6/23/14 7:34 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: In reply to oldeskewltoy: Who the hell cares what nicksta43/anyone else thinks?

This thread is as stupid as the definitions of "hatchback" are inconsistent.

fujioko
fujioko Reader
6/23/14 8:00 p.m.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg MegaDork
6/23/14 9:37 p.m.

May I say one thing in response, "Veloster"

nicksta43
nicksta43 UltraDork
6/23/14 10:02 p.m.

In reply to aussiesmg:

This is nicksta43's ghost. He is dead now because his head exploded while trying to categorize the Veloster.

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