nderwater said:Mndsm said:I'm a little disappointed that song of the south didn't make the cut
Pretty sure that one will stay burried due to being un-PC.
Yeah, that's not the only stuff they are going to bury that would great to see:
nderwater said:Mndsm said:I'm a little disappointed that song of the south didn't make the cut
Pretty sure that one will stay burried due to being un-PC.
Yeah, that's not the only stuff they are going to bury that would great to see:
Just watched the Original Muppet Movie.
had a bunch of dust drift in at the end during Rainbow Connection....
dculberson said:There are too many streaming services!! Then again, I'm lucky to watch 1 TV show at a time, one episode every couple days, so I'm not exactly their target market. But I was curious and looked for how many there are. I found this: https://flixed.io/complete-list-streaming-services/ which says there are "20+" general TV streaming services and over 100 if you include sports, on demand/movie type things, whatever. It's starting to make the days of the high cable bills look good.
I am just about done with my infatuation with music streaming services. I've had so many instances of stuff disappearing that I had in my rotation and hiccups and skips that I'm starting to buy CDs again. Rip to MP3, actually store on local storage, and no worries about network connectivity or license negotiations between shadowy copyright empires. I'm not quite there with TV, but it might happen.
Right there with you. We have Prime, because we have Prime for the shipping. But their music streaming and tv streaming is enough for me. I really want a "pay once and never again" option. Can I pay $1,000 for a lifetime subscription to Disney? That'd be pretty sweet. I'd do that.
In reply to mtn :
You could do $70 for the year.
I'm happy with prime, $120 in November gets me free shipping on all purchases, done decent originals, and a lot of great movies hidden in a very crappy interface.
For 4k Netflix in multiple rooms though, I'm paying $18/month. No free shipping or option for music streaming included. The handful of originals my kid watches just isn't worth it anymore, or at least I'm hoping once I show her the Disney stuff. I'm also thinking about dropping hulu, commercial free 4k version at 14/month, because most of what we watch there is already showing up on Disney plus. Might keep it just for fx/fxx shows, but really I could sign up one month a year and watch everything I want to watch. Disney is also running a combo for $9/month to add commercial hulu and espn. As much as I don't like commercials or sports, it could be a good compromise.
For the most part, the streaming services are background noise for me more than entertainment. To keep the sound effects at a reasonable volume, I can barely hear the people speaking, so it's just something to have on and maybe glance at once in a while unless I'm in the mood for something specific.
FuzzWuzzy said:You know, the cable networks could've prevented this if they'd just let us pick and choose what channels we were able to pay for, instead of paying a bunch of money for 100 channels, 90 of which are junk. Not to mention all of the "packages" that forced you to do the same thing, just to get one or two channels that you liked for an extra $20-$50.
I tangentally work for a sort-of cable company and the problem in that regard is primarily the content providers. We tried to do a thing where you could go ala carte with your channels and we got it as close as we could. The problem is that most of the content providers have more than one channel and the only way they will license those channels to a cable provider is as a package. So if you want A&E, for example, you have to also take five other bullE36 M3 channels that nobody ever watches.
Back in The Day, the only path that the content providers had to get to the consumer was through broadcast TV or the cable/satellite company. Now, the content providers can connect directly to the consumer so I think we're going to see an explosion in exactly what eerybody has been asking for which is complete ala carte pricing where you can buy just the service you want and have it delivered via the internet. My guess is that the cable companies are going to be pushing back on the providers to lower the content costs since they don't have the monopoly on access to the content anymore, but the providers are going to be in the catbird's seat. When the contact negotiations break down and the provider pulls the content, they now have the option to offer a free reduced into price to their streaming service for those customers affected and it will make the cable company look like the Bad Guy and win over some customers that weren't going to try streaming otherwise.
Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised to see cable companies start to really reduce the amount of capital they invest in content delivery services over the next decade (hell, maybe they already have!) and focus almost exclusively on basic Internet bandwidth. It's all data at this point - phone, computer, & tv - and they still have monopoly protections over that last-mile delivery. You might be able to get a live stream of a sports event without the cable company, but you're going to need someone to run a physical cable to your house and route you to the public Internet so you can consume that stream.
Until 5G adoption makes that physical connection unecessary in most areas....
My wife is fired up about it. Like, almost took today off work. Which I just don't get. I mean, I like the shows, but c'mon, it's just TV.
OTH, stuff like TaleSpin and Gargoyles will be a lot of fun to revisit and I'm interested to see what's on Nat Geo.
I got my first year free because I'm a Verizon customer, but I probably would have signed up anyhow just for the Marvel and Star Wars content. Will probably watch the first episode of "The Mandalorian" tonight.
Apparently we get it free though my wife's cell phone contract. I guess I'm excited? Don't really know yet.
Unfortunately my PS4 is in the basement on my sim rig, my "smart tv" isn't compatible with Disney+, and my Apple TV is too old and also not compatible. 
Stuck watching it off my Macbook for now.
Patientzero said:Unfortunately my PS4 is in the basement on my sim rig, my "smart tv" isn't compatible with Disney+, and my Apple TV is too old and also not compatible.
Stuck watching it off my Macbook for now.
Just FYI, a $30 Fire Stick will fix you right up.
nderwater said:Mndsm said:I'm a little disappointed that song of the south didn't make the cut
Pretty sure that one will stay burried due to being un-PC.
Supposedly dumbo is unedited, as is the original lady and the tramp. Song isn't that much worse. Also, all the crazy E36 M3 in Pinocchio.
mazdeuce - Seth said:Apparently we get it free though my wife's cell phone contract. I guess I'm excited? Don't really know yet.
Same with me. No clue what it is. Don't own TV. Never had cable. Not sure what the thread is even all about
mr2s2000elise said:No clue what it is. Don't own TV. Never had cable. Not sure what the thread is even all about
I have 4 young kids. A Disney streaming service for the cost of a burger a month is a no brainer.
nderwater said:mr2s2000elise said:No clue what it is. Don't own TV. Never had cable. Not sure what the thread is even all about
I have 4 young kids. A Disney streaming service for the cost of a burger a month is a no brainer.
2 young kids here . Can barely afford them, couldn't afford 4
Just finished The Mandalorian, been waiting all day. Stupid adulting. Certified Star Wars nut so I'm biased but super looking forward to Friday's episode. (If you're not really a SW fan but like westerns, give it a go.)
Then started scrolling through the rest of the SW world, and then saw the nostalgic section like Flight of the Navigator, Tron and Tron Legacy, and might even go back to the Simpsons I left years ago. Always looking for 20-30min bits to watch while eating dinner when I get home.
...and here's 600+ titles in alphabetical order on the app: https://justdisney.co/here-is-the-full-alphabetical-list-of-disney-titles/?fbclid=IwAR2GGk2DqR6fx4bydQBxXbP2WFDv-l4vz37kXiSGtbIdnEuAfGoRwtgkDbw
There is a lot more to it than most people understand.
My cousin is the president of FX Network. Owned by Disney. I spent 3 or 4 hours recently talking with him recently about the industry changes. I learned a lot.
Netflix has created a model that is difficult to compete with (and will be difficult to sustain). It has changed the entire structure of how companies in the industry are valued. Disney (and its subsidiaries) have no choice but to follow.
Companies used to be valued on their profits and net worth. Companies like Netflix are valuated based on their reach, and their potential. This gives Netflix a ridiculous valuation, and makes them cash-rich (without making profits). They use the cash to pay talent (writers, directors, etc) extremely high paychecks, and steal them from the major content providers to make their own original content.
FX has raised up multiple great talents that were stolen this way. They can't get more cash from their investors because their valuation is not high enough (because they actually make profits). This means they can't hire the good talent.
Add to this that Netflix controls their own data stats, and misrepresents their viewership (its complicated, but the bottom line is it makes a huge impact on their valuations, and therefore their cash flow).
Disney's answer to this is to develop it's own content on-demand system, which will not be valuated on profits. It will be valued on reach, viewership, and potential. Disney's other subsidiaries (like FX, Pixar, Touchstone, Marvel, LucasFilm, etc) will make their content available to only the Disney on-demand system. That will enable the profit-based companies to make profits (selling to the on-demand service), while the on-demand service loses money hand over fist, but seeks to compete with Netflix.
Expect many, many more corporate shenanigins in the entertainment industry. The net result will be much higher costs to the end line consumers.
So much for "free".
In reply to SVreX :
I knew we were screwed the moment i contemplated buying a streaming subscription to watch cartoons I used to see after school for "free". I'm waiting on them to figure out how to charge us for air to breathe like in the last the Lorax movie. 
Man, I must be old.
For some reason, I've never really gotten into any real streaming watching. I'll watch episodes of shows that I missed when they first were on TV.
Over the past two decades, I've really stopped watching ANY drama or comedy shows. So all of the new content that these channels make have no appeal to me anymore.
Funny thing is that the more options of stuff to watch on TV, the more books I read. The only things I'll really sit around for are sporting events.
I also find it interesting that one can get internet from one company, and then stream another company's stuff via that connection. IMHO, while the internet supplier can't throttle your signal, they certainly will raise the rates- I must be the only one who sees that eventually the internet delivery costs + the cost of any subscriptions will be the same as just getting cable. It's all the same stuff, supplied over the same cables over the same time- internet suppliers know this, and it's a natural expectation that all of this "savings" will go away at some point.
We will see.
alfadriver said:Over the past two decades, I've really stopped watching ANY drama or comedy shows. So all of the new content that these channels make have no appeal to me anymore.
Which is ironic, since the last two decades are considered by most to be the golden age of prestige TV, especially dramas.
There is seriously a lot of great content out there. The problem is, it's spread around all the different cable channels and streaming services. So you still need multiple subscriptions. Anyone who thought this whole thing would end up saving them money was kidding themselves.
Tom_Spangler said:alfadriver said:Over the past two decades, I've really stopped watching ANY drama or comedy shows. So all of the new content that these channels make have no appeal to me anymore.
Which is ironic, since the last two decades are considered by most to be the golden age of prestige TV, especially dramas.
There is seriously a lot of great content out there. The problem is, it's spread around all the different cable channels and streaming services. So you still need multiple subscriptions. Anyone who thought this whole thing would end up saving them money was kidding themselves.
So people say. But I never even watched the dramas that were available to me- Breaking Bad, the advertising drama, the odd HBO dramas, downtown abby ;) etc. Having spent so much effort to watch them in the past, I didn't feel like putting in the effort to see the new ones. Especially how so many of them just turned into crap by the time they ended. I recently found out about a drama about Washington's Spies- and it's funny that the series has lasted longer than the war that they theoretically are covering.
It's kind of ironic to me that Comcast advertises content that is in direct competition with their cable system- and I can't even come up with the various names of the shows. But they are on all the time.
There have been the odd, short, series that I've watched- but more about the subject- Band of Brothers so long ago, From the Earth to the Moon long ago, and recently Chernobyl. I found them by luck.
With all of this improvement, Youtube has really gotten bad- it's recommendations are terrible, the format has changed, and I've ended up watching less of that, too. No way in heck will I invest in their TV channel.
I'm going to continne to wait this out.
alfadriver said:It's kind of ironic to me that Comcast advertises content that is in direct competition with their cable system- and I can't even come up with the various names of the shows. But they are on all the time.
Well, don't forget that Comcast is also an internet provider. You can't watch Netflix or Youtube without that big fat high-bandwidth pipe coming to your house.
alfadriver said:Man, I must be old.
For some reason, I've never really gotten into any real streaming watching. I'll watch episodes of shows that I missed when they first were on TV.
Over the past two decades, I've really stopped watching ANY drama or comedy shows. So all of the new content that these channels make have no appeal to me anymore.
Funny thing is that the more options of stuff to watch on TV, the more books I read. The only things I'll really sit around for are sporting events.
Different strokes for different folks. I don't mind watching a comedy or short drama (no berkeleying way am I committed enough to watch GOT), but you could not pay me to sit around and watch a sporting event. I think like most millenials, I don't have TV, so streaming is the only way of watching things. I don't watch much, but what I do watch is 100% streamed.
alfadriver said:I also find it interesting that one can get internet from one company, and then stream another company's stuff via that connection. IMHO, while the internet supplier can't throttle your signal,
Uhh, they can. Net Neutrality was repealed.
Tom_Spangler said:alfadriver said:It's kind of ironic to me that Comcast advertises content that is in direct competition with their cable system- and I can't even come up with the various names of the shows. But they are on all the time.
Well, don't forget that Comcast is also an internet provider. You can't watch Netflix or Youtube without that big fat high-bandwidth pipe coming to your house.
That's the irony.
dculberson said:I am just about done with my infatuation with music streaming services. I've had so many instances of stuff disappearing that I had in my rotation and hiccups and skips that I'm starting to buy CDs again. Rip to MP3, actually store on local storage, and no worries about network connectivity or license negotiations between shadowy copyright empires. I'm not quite there with TV, but it might happen.
What streaming service? I've had Spotify Premium for more than a decade now.
I support artists by going to shows, buying merch, and the occasional vinyl record. Other than that, Spotify at work, in the car, at the house, etc.
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