Automotive Myths, Lore, and other incorrectness

mmosbey wrote:

Anti-stance wrote: Found On Roadside Dead

Chews Heads, Eats Valves, Races Only Little Electric Trains.

Poor Old Nun Thinks It's A Cadillac

Javelin wrote:

mmosbey wrote:

Anti-stance wrote: Found On Roadside Dead

Chews Heads, Eats Valves, Races Only Little Electric Trains.

Poor Old Nun Thinks It's A Cadillac

Mostly Old Parts And Rust

icaneat50eggs wrote: every engineering student is taught that area doesn't change friction force.... Just saying.

Like Knurled said earlier "The physics teacher is assuming that tires work by friction, and not by mechanical traction. There we go with another problem caused by one false assumption early on in the process." Thinking it out, it does make sense. Say the same amount of lateral force is being applied to two objects with the same mass. If one has a square foot of contact patch and the other has ten square feet and the force of gravity is the same, it should require the same amount of force to move the objects. The weight is the same just spread out over 10 square feet instead of 1, but that is just friction as stated. Man, I actually retained some knowledge. I didn't know what the term was for actual traction(grip) that a car has.

Javelin wrote: Poor Old Nun Thinks It's A Cadillac

I was trying to think of a polite way to say that one.

DoctorBlade wrote:

Javelin wrote: Poor Old Nun Thinks It's A Cadillac

I was trying to think of a polite way to say that one.

I just thought I was told a very terrible, southern variation of this as a teenager. I don't feel as bad since someone else was thinking the same thing.

HappyAndy wrote:

Javelin wrote:

mmosbey wrote:

Anti-stance wrote: Found On Roadside Dead

Chews Heads, Eats Valves, Races Only Little Electric Trains.

Poor Old Nun Thinks It's A Cadillac

Mostly Old Parts And Rust

Just Another Gearbox Under Annual Rebuild

Knurled wrote:

dculberson wrote: Right, 'cause a clutch is so much easier to swap than brake pads!

How much wear does downshifting put on a clutch?

The way most people do it?

Even if it's a tiny bit, I would rather replace brake pads 10x than a clutch once.

Anti-stance wrote: ` Was there even an A3 that came with 9.4s?

Solids? Yes. I've seen them with my own eyes, they were both ABA/020 cars.

I've also seen vented 9.4s on ABA/auto cars.

What I like is, there's definitely a way to put an 02A in a non-Plus Suspension car with all factory parts.

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dculberson wrote:

Knurled wrote:

dculberson wrote: Right, 'cause a clutch is so much easier to swap than brake pads!

How much wear does downshifting put on a clutch?

The way most people do it? Even if it's a tiny bit, I would rather replace brake pads 10x than a clutch once.

It wears the synchros prematurely as well.

I thought brakes were for making a car stop and the engine was for making it go.

Here I've been doing it wrong all these years.

HappyAndy wrote: Mostly Old Parts And Rust

All Makes Combined?

Mimics A Zipper During Acceleration.

(Sideways Cap Intentional, Owner Needs Treatment Cerebrally)

More expensive models get more expensive parts...big myth.

Recently I searched for a cruise control part for a Mercury Mountaineer. Same part from the dealership was used on many models, but the part listed for a Lincoln was $178.....Mercury was $79...for an Explorer...$48 for a Ranger only $36. Online pricing was pretty much the same. Found the same works for an identical part on an Olds Aurora and Pontic GrandAm!

Bruce

Ford spelled backwards = Drof.

Driver

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egnorant wrote: More expensive models get more expensive parts...big myth. Recently I searched for a cruise control part for a Mercury Mountaineer. Same part from the dealership was used on many models, but the part listed for a Lincoln was $178.....Mercury was $79...for an Explorer...$48 for a Ranger only $36. Online pricing was pretty much the same. Found the same works for an identical part on an Olds Aurora and Pontic GrandAm! Bruce

That's like the old myth that Chevy and GMC trucks are completely different and that GMCs are better built. GM exploits the crap out of that. They use upgraded interior stuff in the GMC's but that's about it.

There used to be some differences in the older GM trucks. At one time the GM was supposed to be the heavy duty branch.
didn't last long.

Knurled wrote: What I like is, there's definitely a way to put an 02A in a non-Plus Suspension car with all factory parts.

Yeah, basically a Corrado G60 is a 02A car without plus suspension.

Not automotive specific- Boat (Break Out Another Thousand)

Curmudgeon wrote:

egnorant wrote: More expensive models get more expensive parts...big myth. Recently I searched for a cruise control part for a Mercury Mountaineer. Same part from the dealership was used on many models, but the part listed for a Lincoln was $178.....Mercury was $79...for an Explorer...$48 for a Ranger only $36. Online pricing was pretty much the same. Found the same works for an identical part on an Olds Aurora and Pontic GrandAm! Bruce

That's like the old myth that Chevy and GMC trucks are completely different and that GMCs are better built. GM exploits the crap out of that. They use upgraded interior stuff in the GMC's but that's about it.

Wrong, GMCs are Chevys with lock washers

Didn't GMC trucks used to have Pontiac engines? Thought I'd read that somewhere.

Anti-stance wrote: Not automotive specific- Boat (Break Out Another Thousand)

Also not a myth!!!

Just Empty Every Pocket

or

Just Endless Electrical Problems

Knurled wrote: Didn't GMC trucks used to have Pontiac engines? Thought I'd read that somewhere.

Yes, back in the 50's when GMC trucks WERE different than Chevys.

You could get the GMC 305 V6's and Pontiac V8s

Shawn

GMC does have a benefit... it's a truck that can be sold at Pontiac and Oldsmobile dealerships.

Err, I mean, it can be sold at Buick dealerships.

(Great. Now I'm sad.)

"Isn't this a Tahoe?"

"No sir, this is a Cadillac!"

What was the Honda one?

Hold On, Not Done Accelerating

Highly Overrated, Non Dramatic Acceleration