AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter)
AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) UberDork
9/19/24 8:41 a.m.

In reply to Vracer111 :

6.5creedmore & 300blk?

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
9/19/24 10:07 a.m.

6.5 CM and 300 BLK?

Rodan
Rodan UberDork
9/19/24 10:15 a.m.

I'm going stick with 6 ARC.     This is a 6.5 CR with .300BLK...

 

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
9/19/24 12:15 p.m.

I don't have anything in 300 so I don't have a reference.  So ya no way that is 6.5

RacetruckRon
RacetruckRon SuperDork
9/19/24 1:15 p.m.

224 Valkarie and 300 BLK?

Vracer111
Vracer111 HalfDork
9/19/24 6:04 p.m.

Rodan correct - 6mm ARC (105 grain Hornady Black) and 300 Blackout (220 grain AAC SMK)

Vracer111
Vracer111 HalfDork
9/19/24 6:44 p.m.

Sneak peak at the 6mm ARC precision AR build that is nearly complete:

Waiting on bolt and stock to complete it... went ahead and ordered another bolt (a Cryptic that was in stock and highly rated) since JP not available until nearly November now... If other bolt works out will cancel the JP Bolt. And looks like the buttstock is now shipping... so should be in soon... nice.

Rodan
Rodan UberDork
9/19/24 8:06 p.m.

I'm interested to hear how the 6 ARC shoots.  I have a spare lower around here somewhere...

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
9/24/24 8:55 p.m.

So I finally found the one. A 1978 FN High Power. Manufactured and assembled in Belgium. My inspection shows holster ware but little if any indication that it was fired much if all. I can only assume it was a duty pistol. It really is in like new condition inside with paint still on some of the slide points and from what I could tell there is zero barrel ware. The barrel looks like it is new and un fired. It really makes me wonder if it has been fired. Again making we think it was a duty gun that lived in a holster. 
 

 It took a while to find this.  I wanted an FN made and assembled by FN in Belgium and not one that was assembled in Portugal.  These are similar to the T series serial numbered early ones that were also assembled by FN in Belgium. These are considered to have better fit and finish. Anyway it is an amazing bit of history. The trigger is very 1911 like but with a 7lb pull. It really is the evolution of the 1911.   I can describe it as a mix of 1911 and P210. 
 

If you ever have the opportunity to get one of these do it.  I have not shot it yet but with one of the best SAO triggers I have ever felt and it's weight and an almost 5" inch barrel I suspect it will be very flat shooting with low recoil. I will report in when I shoot it.  
 

This one I am sure is a keeper. It will join my collection of historicity significant firearms.  

I would upload a photo but something is not working on the GRM site   


 

 

 

 

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
9/25/24 5:18 p.m.

Posting a short story:

Moral of the story: PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. Practice your draw. Practice your draw to first shot. Practice your draw first shot on target. Practice your draw first shot and multiple targets.

Lots of detail left out for obvious reasons. 

I recently had to put the above to use in protection of myself and my sibling and nephew.

Coming out of a restaurant at night walking my sibling to their car. We were approached by 2 people with pistols in their hand. An attempt to rob us. I was moving to comply and hand over my wallet. My sibling body blocked their child and kneeled between 2 cars. As I was going for my wallet the person at the rear of their two-man got aggressive and approached me while aiming straight at me. It seemed instantaneously, but I went to draw at the same time the aggressor fired first. The other aggressor (closer to me) also started firing. I was able to draw and get my first shot on the nearest aggressor and within seconds multiple rounds into the furthest (initial shooter) aggressor while sidestepping into cover. Somehow I was unharmed and my family was safe. Both individuals did not make it. 

It was a surreal moment. I've been shot before and shot at more times than I can count. Never by a fellow American at home in the US. I stayed cool and didnt really have to think through it, reflexes come from PRACTICE! I'll give credit to luck, practice, my military training and real world experience. Mostly luck though. 

My Sig p365 was flawless. It's been my daily for years I cant wait to get it back. I was using an eclipse holster on the waistband of my gym shorts and my draw was quick and smooth. There were multiple surveillance videos that cleared me in self defense and I'm still waiting to get my p365 back, if I ever do. May need to get a lawyer since it's been some time. The first responders were more than helpful. I was honestly nervous of their arrival and initial contact. But, they were very reassuring and thorough. 

It still pisses me off that it had to happen because it was unnecessary and we shouldn't have to worry about this happening to us. With the said, practice self defense. 

 

 

barefootcyborg5000
barefootcyborg5000 UltimaDork
9/25/24 6:24 p.m.

In reply to yupididit :

Glad you were on the better end of that interaction and sad it had to happen. 
Not to make light of the situation, but that is probably the best endorsement Sig could ever hope for. 

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
9/25/24 6:48 p.m.

In reply to yupididit :

Dam. So glad you and your family are ok.  I can not agree more about training. It is a reason why I practice at least weekly and shoot steel challenge.   Steel challenge for me is a complement to my training. It stresses fast smooth draw, fast on target and fast transitions all with precise accuracy with different target sizes at various distances.  
 

The one training drill I have been doing more of is the no fail drill.  I would be interested in knowing what you think was the training or drills you did that helped you the most.  
 

I just hope I never need it like you did.  
 

I am sure you know this from your training but there is no shame in talking to someone about things if you feel the need.  For those guys it is over for you it is the beginning of the rest of your life and you now have to live with what happened.   

We are here for you if you just want to vent a bit if you want. 

Vracer111
Vracer111 HalfDork
9/25/24 7:38 p.m.

In reply to yupididit :

With the way people act, no way to tell what will happen when people give themselves over to evil... way too many straight up murders for extremely petty reasons almost daily it seems. Situation seemed to turn out as good as it could for y'all, none of your party physically hurt and you are not in jail. The training/conditioning definitely took over and not getting shot a huge bonus. Your recount of the event is a wake-up call for all of us to do our due diligence and be responsible in our choice, both for ourself and the sake of any others whether family or strangers on the street. I really don't get out to shoot enough, but do dry fire practice quite regularly weekly with my pistols to make sure don't develop bad habits. This recounting of events has made me want to be more intentional in training.

I hope everything is fine legally for you and no relatives of the criminals try to do anything. I've never been in situation of having to take a human life, and hope to never be put in that situation, but my outlook is like this: I know it would bother me a bit to be put in that kind of situation and I would reflect on it in the future, but it would not be something that I would dwell on or drastically change my life in any way. It would be a bad memory, but ultimately was a situation which came about not by my intentions but by some individuals who had unknown but evil intentions in their heart. If they had good intentions the situation simply would not have happened. They payed the ultimately price for their choice of behavior, and hopefully any of their relatives can see that and have understanding.

Glad the situation turned out as good as it did for you!

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
9/25/24 8:23 p.m.

Got the Hi-Piwer out today and it shoots like a modern pistol.  I highly recommend. It is very similar to a P210 in feel size and how well it shoots.   I was also shooting it next to a SA/DA brand new P226 and neither disappointed.  Both great fun at the range or duty type pistol. Both are probably to heavy for CC. But it could be done.  

Vracer111
Vracer111 HalfDork
9/25/24 10:28 p.m.

Still waiting on the TRYBE BCG, but here's the 6mm ARC precision AR build I did:

Weight comes in right at 13.5 lbs ready to run with bipod, magazine loaded with 14 rounds, and TBR brass catcher installed - less bipod, mag, and TBR brass catcher it's right at 11.00 lbs. The Brenton mags are supposedly 16 rounders, but once I took out the 5 round limiter device and loaded it up 14 rounds is what they really are - technically can get 15 but barely, with zero spring play so doubt it would work on a closed bolt, so 14 rounds is max I would load them with for full function. The rifle balances REALLY nice, very neutral/evenly weighted.  Really looking forward to see how it shoots once the BCG comes in and I've verified it with go/no-go gauges. Super impressed with the DLG Tactical Precision buttstock too... it's about 2oz lighter than a Magpul PRS buttstock with better/easier butt pad height adjustability, and is nearly $100 less expensive. I did mod the buttstock a little bit, cut off and filed down the sling slot location it originally had to slim down underneath the front/have more clearance for shooting hand.

Motojunky
Motojunky Reader
9/25/24 10:54 p.m.

In reply to yupididit :

Wow! I'm glad to read that you were prepared and able to protect your family. I'm sorry that you have to carry that burden and that your Sig is tied up in red tape. 

Fortunately the aggressor did not have your practice discipline and/or training. 

Noddaz
Noddaz PowerDork
9/26/24 8:09 a.m.

In reply to yupididit :

I am sorry you had to go through that.  I am glad you and family are ok.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
9/26/24 8:09 a.m.

In reply to yupididit :

Glad you and yours are ok. We know that here, if you are involved in a SD situation, that firearm will likely never be returned. It's one reason why there is one that I will not and do not carry. Practicing to the point of muscle memory is a good thing.

My new boss puts on a monthly "EDC Carry Match" to practice situations that could happen, giving you a chance to see if how/what you carry is sufficient and practical. While I came in last due to "procedural" (didn't retain empty mags after a change) I was pleased that I have made decent choices. Capacity is limited due to a single stack but I can put those big bullets on target well while moving so I will take it. I am no gunfighter and have no desire to ever test it in the real but I know that I might have a fighting chance if it does. 

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
9/27/24 11:56 a.m.

In reply to barefootcyborg5000 :

I've always loved my Sig pistols. The p220 started the love.

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
9/27/24 12:01 p.m.
dean1484 said:

In reply to yupididit :

Dam. So glad you and your family are ok.  I can not agree more about training. It is a reason why I practice at least weekly and shoot steel challenge.   Steel challenge for me is a complement to my training. It stresses fast smooth draw, fast on target and fast transitions all with precise accuracy with different target sizes at various distances.  
 

The one training drill I have been doing more of is the no fail drill.  I would be interested in knowing what you think was the training or drills you did that helped you the most.  
 

I just hope I never need it like you did.  
 

I am sure you know this from your training but there is no shame in talking to someone about things if you feel the need.  For those guys it is over for you it is the beginning of the rest of your life and you now have to live with what happened.   

We are here for you if you just want to vent a bit if you want. 

No fail drills are an excellent way to train. I honestly think my real life operational experiences and my consistency training and carrying with this particular pistol. 

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
9/27/24 12:04 p.m.

In reply to bobzilla :

Hopefully I get her back but I've reconciled with the possibility of that not happening. 

Some training is always better than no training. 

barefootcyborg5000
barefootcyborg5000 UltimaDork
9/27/24 12:29 p.m.

In reply to yupididit :

My buddy runs a p365 that is a real treat to shoot. They're on my radar for sure. The $50 magazines are a tough pill, but everything else is very appealing. 

Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos)
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) MegaDork
9/27/24 2:18 p.m.

In reply to yupididit :

I'm sorry this happened, it sucks. 

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
9/27/24 2:27 p.m.

I have a 365XL and it is a fantastic carry. BUT I am a big guy with big hands and I can not get a grip on it.  Tip of my thumb to the tip of my pinky measured by just opening my hand not with additional pressure is 9.5 inches. My pinky is bigger in diameter and length than most normal people's middle finger. (this makes working on cars a PITA sometimes.)  

This is why I tend to lean towards things that I think most people would consider a small full size.  Usually around the 4.5 barrel length. Things like the standard VP9 (what I use for EDC).  I have a PDP, CZ, and M&P equivalents that i use as well but 99.9 percent of the time it is my VP9 with a RDO. 

What I have learned is you can only train around so much when it comes to pistol size.  I was caught up in the 365 hype and tried to make it work. I wasted a lot of amo trying to be able to shoot it to a standard that I would consider carrying it.  I then realized that maybe the 365 was just not for me so I went and tested a bunch of things and the VP9 just fell into my hand like an old friend.  It is more work to CC.  You are not just putting it in a pockett but again I am a big boned guy and I can easily make it disappear at my 3:00.  I would rather have to work a little at carrying it than compromise my ability to shoot.  It is a balance that anyone that CC has to deal with.

What I am getting at that I hope others take away from this is don't fall for the hype out there.  If you are considering carry try as many pistols as you can and better yet shoot them.  If something does not fit your hand well keep looking.  For many, it will be a single purchase so get something that you want to take to the range and practice with something that is fun.  This will lead you to train more.  I love shooting my VP9 and as such I shoot it a lot.  I have done a steel challenge with it (I got some weird looks because I usually run one of my race pistols)  But it was fun to try it and I did well with it.  I will probably run it more.

Sorry for the long post.  More of a PSA for people thinking about CC after reading yupidit's story.

 

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
9/29/24 2:36 a.m.

Looks like GRM got the photos sorted out  

The new to me 1978 Hi-Power.  This is such a hidden jem and a real piece of history  

 


 


 

 

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