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1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UberDork
7/18/13 11:11 a.m.

I like this idea!

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/drone-hunting-colorado-172357477.html

"A small town in Colorado is considering an ordinance that would create a license and bounty for hunters to shoot down drones.

"We do not want drones in town," Phillip Steel, the Deer Trail, Colo., resident who drafted the ordinance, told Denver's ABC7 affiliate. "They fly in town, they get shot down."

Steel's proposal, recently submitted to the town board, calls for a $25 drone hunting license and outlines "rules of engagement" for hunters looking to shoot down the unmanned aerial devices..."

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/18/13 11:21 a.m.

What if the fire department was using a drone to spot a forest fire?

aircooled
aircooled PowerDork
7/18/13 11:22 a.m.
"Even if a tiny percentage of people get online (for a) drone license, that's cool," Boyd said. "That's a lot of money to a small town like us.

Sounds like it's simply an alternative to parking tickets / speed traps.

Shooting down a federal aircraft in legal FAA airspace. It doesn't seem like that would end well.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UberDork
7/18/13 11:44 a.m.
aircooled wrote: Sounds like it's simply an alternative to parking tickets / speed traps.

Really? If you don't want to pay the tax, then don't hunt the drones. Gotta be the easiest tax you ever got out of paying.

PHeller
PHeller UberDork
7/18/13 11:54 a.m.

What if I'm flying my non-camera equipped R/C airplane? That costs $20,000 dollars...and is my life's work?

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
7/18/13 11:57 a.m.

It's not like this will pass, or if it does, it will be quickly shot down.

mndsm
mndsm PowerDork
7/18/13 11:59 a.m.
z31maniac wrote: It's not like this will pass, or if it does, it will be quickly shot down.

I see what you did there.

PHeller
PHeller UberDork
7/18/13 12:00 p.m.

BOOM that pun dropped quickly.

aircooled
aircooled PowerDork
7/18/13 12:09 p.m.
1988RedT2 wrote: Really? If you don't want to pay the tax, then don't hunt the drones. Gotta be the easiest tax you ever got out of paying.

No, not a tax, a revenue generator.

It's just a marketing scheme to generate money for the town.

Nathan JansenvanDoorn
Nathan JansenvanDoorn Dork
7/18/13 12:11 p.m.
1988RedT2 wrote:
aircooled wrote: Sounds like it's simply an alternative to parking tickets / speed traps.
Really? If you don't want to pay the tax, then don't hunt the drones. Gotta be the easiest tax you ever got out of paying.

Yup - just like parking tickets and speed traps. Don't want to pay the tax? Then park legally and drive the speed limit.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UberDork
7/18/13 12:24 p.m.

My point is that the drone hunting license is purely voluntary, and the purchase of the license grants you certain privileges.

Anyone that "volunteers" for a speeding or parking ticket is probably hoping not to pay, and "buying" a ticket does not grant you the privilege of speeding or illegally parking at any time in the future.

Different!

Sheesh! Trying to be difficult?

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UberDork
7/18/13 12:26 p.m.
aircooled wrote: No, not a tax, a revenue generator.

I would argue that any "revenue generator" for government is by definition a "tax."

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
7/18/13 1:01 p.m.
1988RedT2 wrote:
aircooled wrote: No, not a tax, a revenue generator.
I would argue that any "revenue generator" for government is by definition a "tax."

And your argument would be wrong.

A tax is not voluntary.

This scheme is.

Flynlow
Flynlow Reader
7/18/13 1:06 p.m.
PHeller wrote: What if I'm flying my non-camera equipped R/C airplane? That costs $20,000 dollars...and is my life's work?

Don't fly it in this one little town in Colorado?

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UberDork
7/18/13 1:09 p.m.
z31maniac wrote:
1988RedT2 wrote:
aircooled wrote: No, not a tax, a revenue generator.
I would argue that any "revenue generator" for government is by definition a "tax."
And your argument would be wrong. A tax is not voluntary. This scheme is.

It's no more voluntary than an excise or sales tax on tires. If you want (new) tires, then you pay the tax. If you want to hunt drones, then you pay the tax. Same thing.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade UltraDork
7/18/13 1:53 p.m.

I'm surprised that no one's commented on the terror that this'll generate when you get hundreds of "bounty hunters" shooting up at anything resembling a drone. Also: all those bullets will come down, ya know. Great for killing anything under them. Or this'll create a new class of sadistic fun: buy a helium filled blimp, fly over town and laugh when the handguns and rifles come out.

Besides, I don't think they fly drones low enough for handguns or rifles.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
7/18/13 1:59 p.m.

Ah, it got publicity for a little podunk town. Mission accomplished.

beans
beans Reader
7/18/13 2:02 p.m.

HA! My friend Amanda works for Channel 7. I'll have to call her and ask her about it.

I don't understand how this could in any way be legal/passable, though. Drone hunting? lmao

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
7/18/13 2:07 p.m.
David S. Wallens wrote: What if the fire department was using a drone to spot a forest fire?

How DARE you interject sanity and reason into an emotionally charged issue designed to get people's attention to generate revenue.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic SuperDork
7/18/13 2:30 p.m.

This is pure mall ninja fantasy.

If you're good enough to take down a real actual predator drone, which is exclusively high power rifle work, damn near impossible, and those bullets do land elsewhere, even if you hit it, you're good enough to get away with it. Those things can pick up a human at 10,000 feet BTW. You more or less need a guided surface-air missile, or a radio jammer strong enough to berk the computer and crash it. There aren't many people who can hit a target that size at 3000 yards, let alone moving, let alone rifles that precise.

SCARR
SCARR Reader
7/18/13 2:32 p.m.
DoctorBlade wrote: I'm surprised that no one's commented on the terror that this'll generate when you get hundreds of "bounty hunters" shooting up at anything resembling a drone. Also: all those bullets will come down, ya know. Great for killing anything under them. Or this'll create a new class of sadistic fun: buy a helium filled blimp, fly over town and laugh when the handguns and rifles come out. Besides, I don't think they fly drones low enough for handguns or rifles.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Bullet-Fired-in-the-Air-Strikes-Chesterfield-Boy-214371901.html

SCARR
SCARR Reader
7/18/13 2:48 p.m.

In reply to Kenny_McCormic:

people don't know that. they will be firing lower powered weapons in the air...handguns even.

yamaha
yamaha UberDork
7/18/13 3:11 p.m.

In reply to SCARR:

We've discussed that one already.....also LOL @ using a soviet based tokerev 7.62x25 as the picture for that story.

I'd rather hunt those drones from above.....M2 fiddy's aren't that hard to find if you've already bought a million dollar P51.....

carguy123
carguy123 UltimaDork
7/18/13 3:43 p.m.
David S. Wallens wrote: What if the fire department was using a drone to spot a forest fire?

In the city limits?

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade UltraDork
7/18/13 4:14 p.m.
SCARR wrote:
DoctorBlade wrote: I'm surprised that no one's commented on the terror that this'll generate when you get hundreds of "bounty hunters" shooting up at anything resembling a drone. Also: all those bullets will come down, ya know. Great for killing anything under them. Or this'll create a new class of sadistic fun: buy a helium filled blimp, fly over town and laugh when the handguns and rifles come out. Besides, I don't think they fly drones low enough for handguns or rifles.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Bullet-Fired-in-the-Air-Strikes-Chesterfield-Boy-214371901.html

Sadly, my point exactly.

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