This thread is so amusing to a Libertarian.
This thread is so amusing to a Libertarian.
Honestly as a resident of the hole called NJ I'll say we could do a lot worse. I doubt he'll get elected, maybe not even the nomination, because he doesn't play ball and speaks his mind.
He's been good for us as a governor, I'd vote for him.
And as far as the fat jokes he actually had the band surgery and has been loosing weight, so I think he's factored that in to his campaign plan.
The thought of Hillary is enough to make me wish Obama could run for another term...
Libertarian=Corporate suck-up disguised as constitutionalism
Funded by the Koch Brothers and the like
Koch Brothers and the whole family is a bunch of traitors. There are same nice photos of the source of all the money sitting with Stalin.
I wanted to be a Libertarian because I follow the Constitution but once I found out what they are truly about, I stay far away.
Since the Libertarians weren't getting it done the Koch's decided to take back over the GOP with the Tea Party.
Destruction of the American Democracy brought to you by Russian oil money via the Koch family.
Flight Service wrote: For all his flaws, Nixon was a hell of a President. He just got caught.
No one died in Watergate.
DoctorBlade wrote:Flight Service wrote: For all his flaws, Nixon was a hell of a President. He just got caught.No one died in Watergate.
Are you gonna bringing up the 3 mercenaries that died in Benghazi at the CIA station?
I berkeleying LOVE talking politics. Margie & co. berkeleying HATE it when we talk politics on their board. Sure, some topics "turn" political, but let's not poke the berkeleying bear, eh? I like this bar. I'd hate to see it shut down.
This thread devolved a lot quicker then normal. 
Fine Poop I will play nice, I won't bring up the 13 attacks and 50+ deaths under Bush
Wally wrote: I don't see a big difference between the two, but he would be a lot more entertaining. Ive been thinking about running myself but transit really doesn't like us to have a second job.
Run, if you do PM me I can send you some data for the campaign
I live in NJ.. and I think he has done ok by the state aside from his insistance that NJ schools are failing (we have number 2 spot for best schools in the nation ) so he can privatize them.. but I would not want him as president.
While he has done ok in NJ, I find his bullying tactics and personality to be more damaging than good. He will not listen to a contrary position to his own nor will he entertain a question that might put his policies in a bad light, instead he will badger and shut the person up while his wife smiles and nods in agreeance.
I like Hillary, she is a smart cookie, I think she would be a decent president, but at this stage, might be far too old (if she does two terms, she would be older than President Reagan when she leaves office)
What about Lou Christie?
Dr. Hess wrote: What? I'm serious. Hitlery would be better for the country than that Christie. Watch him get the nomination just so Hitlery will win the election. Just like the last 2 Republican nominees. At least with her as president, we can continue with the government not actually accomplishing anything, which keeps us all safer and freer than if they actually can get things done.
Doctor you are correct.
Flight Service wrote: Libertarian=Corporate suck-up disguised as constitutionalism Funded by the Koch Brothers and the like Koch Brothers and the whole family is a bunch of traitors. There are same nice photos of the source of all the money sitting with Stalin. I wanted to be a Libertarian because I follow the Constitution but once I found out what they are truly about, I stay far away. Since the Libertarians weren't getting it done the Koch's decided to take back over the GOP with the Tea Party. Destruction of the American Democracy brought to you by Russian oil money via the Koch family.
Yea man!
JThw8 wrote: The thought of Hillary is enough to make me wish Obama could run for another term...
What's worse, Hillary in charge or Bill wandering around the White House with nothing to do? 
914Driver wrote:JThw8 wrote: The thought of Hillary is enough to make me wish Obama could run for another term...What's worse, Hillary in charge or Bill wandering around the White House with nothing to do?
Nothing to do? Why? Are they firing all the interns? 
there's 3 years until the next election... it's a bit too soon to be crowning anybody king just yet- the current occupant of the White House was a little known nobody that was busy voting "present" in the Illinois house of Representatives known pretty much only by Oprah and a few people from his little part of Chicago this far out from when he got elected... also, around that time the junior senator from New York was all but crowned as the first woman president...
I do love a good scorched earth thread! 
I have nothing constructive to add other than I like Christie as a tv personality - says funny stuff, strong opinions, etc. Maybe that's all the country really wants in a Prez these days, or worse yet, maybe that's the best we could hope for.
I think I'll write in Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho when the time comes.
z31maniac wrote:bravenrace wrote:Skin color is not a choice. Being overweight is. (Not that I care either way.)aircooled wrote: Stupid tangent: Is he too fat to be president?Wouldn't that be similar to not electing a president because of his skin color? Only in this country (well maybe not) do we have to worry about a person's weight preventing them from winning an election instead of their qualifications for the job.No really. I know most of the US is pretty fat, but will they elect one? (I believe he had the stomach bypass thing done though, right?)
Not always. And it's not relevant to the point either. We shouldn't elect a president based on his/her weight any more than we should skin color.
JThw8 wrote:914Driver wrote:Nothing to do? Why? Are they firing all the interns?JThw8 wrote: The thought of Hillary is enough to make me wish Obama could run for another term...What's worse, Hillary in charge or Bill wandering around the White House with nothing to do?
They'll be all male interns... for her...
From what I've read, Bill is focused on the foundation he runs with the daughter (which IIRC, is based in NYC) so it's unlikely he'd spend much time in the White House.
Plus, while we like to 'presume' Hillary will be running, I've seen nothing definitive she actually will or even plans to. By the end of 2014 she may decide she's enjoying retirement too much and as already mentioned, she's not getting any younger.
JThw8 wrote:914Driver wrote:Nothing to do? Why? Are they firing all the interns?JThw8 wrote: The thought of Hillary is enough to make me wish Obama could run for another term...What's worse, Hillary in charge or Bill wandering around the White House with nothing to do?
plus 1 gazillion!
When Bill was asked what he thought of Monica, he volunteered "Well, she's got the whitest teeth I've ever come across!"
Ah, those were the days.
Ian F wrote: From what I've read, Bill is focused on the foundation he runs with the daughter (which IIRC, is based in NYC) so it's unlikely he'd spend much time in the White House. Plus, while we like to 'presume' Hillary will be running, I've seen nothing definitive she actually will or even plans to. By the end of 2014 she may decide she's enjoying retirement too much and as already mentioned, she's not getting any younger.
Hillary is set to take-up a business presence at the family foundation. In true Clinton fashion, that place is pock-marked with financial malfeasance administered by self-serving cronies. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/us/politics/unease-at-clinton-foundation-over-finances-and-ambitions.html?_r=0
If she runs, she brings along all the dirty laundry accumulated before, during and after her husband's Presidency. Even three years out, there's no way to remove all the stench and stains in that pile.
Bengazi.
oldsaw wrote: If she runs, she brings along all the dirty laundry accumulated before, during and after her husband's Presidency. Even three years out, there's no way to remove all the stench and stains in that pile.
I think you are overlooking the fact that a significant percentage of the electorate is drawn to sleaze. Many more are willing to overlook it, or are just ignorant of it. I think she is very electable.
IMO, what this country needs is a centrist as president. Blame whomever you want, but in the past several years we've become a divided country. This can't go on, and we a President that can pull us back together again (Remember the United States of America?). Anyone who is too far left or right will not be able to do that.
bravenrace wrote: IMO, what this country needs is a centrist as president. Blame whomever you want, but in the past several years we've become a divided country. This can't go on, and we a President that can pull us back together again (Remember the United States of America?). Anyone who is too far left or right will not be able to do that.
Exactly, but the parties have become more divided. You can't get funding/past the primaries unless you are extreme one way or the other, or sell out to corporate backers/special interests.
It is interesting but the money guys have us in a great big mess. The more they poor money in the more disenfranchised we become with the whole system and therefore the less we participates, which means they get what they want.
It is almost a self-fulfilling prophecy situation.
We need 3 election cycles of no incumbents. 0. That should shake up the system enough to fix the problem.
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