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KyCougarAllroad
KyCougarAllroad PowerDork
10/30/17 9:49 a.m.

Have you seen this new idea from everyones favorite mega-company that's looking to take over the world?  The premise is that you'll buy a camera and remote locking system from Amazon so when you buy stuff from them using your Prime account the delivery dude will show up at your house and be recognized by the camera and the door will be unlocked my Amazon Central Command so delivery dude can come on in and drop off your stuff inside the house.

That's a no from me thanks. 

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
10/30/17 9:55 a.m.

Wow, really? That's one of the worst ideas ever.

 

I also predict a surge in applicants for that position from rapists, child molesters, thieves, and every other manner of scum.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
10/30/17 10:08 a.m.

Finally, a solution to the possibility of individual packages being stolen off your porch - giving some random underpaid worker access to your whole house!

But seriously I don't think minor crimes will be common since Amazon will know who visited each house and when. The delivery guy would be leaving his timestamped signature all over the crime scene (at least with whatever identity he used, and signing up for the job with a fake one would be no small feat). I think it's more likely that someone would take a big chance on a major crime - like a high-end thief getting entry to a rich guy's house to steal a trinket worth 6+ digits, or maybe a child molester looking for an opportunity to abduct multiple kids.

The0retical
The0retical SuperDork
10/30/17 10:08 a.m.

Yea... no. They can leave the package under the covered parking.

 

I'm sure they'll just pull an UBER and try to hide behind the "independent contractor" bit of legal wrangling to avoid having to pay for the vetting and background checks. I was hoping that UBER finally burned that bridge to the ground but it's still an irritatingly open issue.

mtn
mtn MegaDork
10/30/17 10:14 a.m.

Interesting. I wouldn't really be scared of petty theft, it is identity theft that I'd be worried about.

Ultimately I wouldn't ever allow them into my house--however, my house has a porch that has a secure exterior door, and then another door into the house that is another exterior door. Maybe I'd let them into that porch area. But probably not. There is nothing I buy from Amazon that I can't afford to get stolen off my porch--not to mention it has never happened.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
10/30/17 10:23 a.m.

Nope. 

 

Nope nope nope nope. 

Spoolpigeon
Spoolpigeon PowerDork
10/30/17 10:54 a.m.

No worries here. My delivery guy doesn’t even try to get to the porch most days. I’ve come home to boxes in the driveway, and even on top of my trash can on trash day. 

dculberson
dculberson PowerDork
10/30/17 11:10 a.m.

Crime wouldn't be my worry. You know exactly who they are, when they got there, when they left. They're on camera. They know that, too. There's absolutely no way they would get away with anything, much less murder or abduction. Crimes like that depend on being unknown to get away with. Worrying about that is letting your lizard brain rule. A pedophile is not going to plan so far in advance as to go apply for a job, get the job, and then stalk around hoping someone with kids home gets an Amazon Key delivery. That's crazy pants.

But this thing is still creepy as all hell and I wouldn't do it for several reasons. Not least of which is because of accidental damage to property and liability if they're injured. I have a hard enough time keeping my family from damaging my house and they theoretically care about the place. Nice walnut floors do not put up with packages being slid across them or plunked down hard with stuff sticking out.

Klayfish
Klayfish PowerDork
10/30/17 11:19 a.m.
dculberson said:

Crime wouldn't be my worry. You know exactly who they are, when they got there, when they left. They're on camera. They know that, too. There's absolutely no way they would get away with anything, much less murder or abduction. Crimes like that depend on being unknown to get away with. Worrying about that is letting your lizard brain rule. A pedophile is not going to plan so far in advance as to go apply for a job, get the job, and then stalk around hoping someone with kids home gets an Amazon Key delivery. That's crazy pants.

But this thing is still creepy as all hell and I wouldn't do it for several reasons. Not least of which is because of accidental damage to property and liability if they're injured. I have a hard enough time keeping my family from damaging my house and they theoretically care about the place. Nice walnut floors do not put up with packages being slid across them or plunked down hard with stuff sticking out.

Reptile theory, FTW!!!!!

I'm with you.  It wouldn't scare me from a privacy or theft perspective, but I don't want some dope delivery person tripping on the E36 M3 my kids sometimes leave on the floor.  You probably know all about that by now, dculberson!  wink

RealMiniParker
RealMiniParker UberDork
10/30/17 12:07 p.m.

*Orders pjs online

*Goes to bed

*Wakes to someone putting pjs on me

Me: WHAT IN THE BERK?!?!

Amazon Employee: Shh, this is part of Amazon Prime, now. 

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
10/30/17 12:18 p.m.

I don't know... I'd consider it, although I don't want to be one of the early adopters. 

Right now, I have anything of moderate value shipped to me at the office - even if I'm not here, someone will be here to sign for it.  But, I may be changing offices to one with a lot more people and such actions may be frowned upon.

wae
wae Dork
10/30/17 12:30 p.m.

My problem with that is two-fold:  First is my privacy -- I just don't really want anyone to be able to come into my house.  Not that I'm afraid they'll steal anything or rape my dog, but I just don't want strangers in my places.  A bigger-picture concern, though, would be that if Amazon can unlock my front door remotely, who's to say that someone else can't do that as well.  How many instances do we need to see of Super Mega Corp Incorporated not being able to protect your personal data from outside attackers?

dculberson
dculberson PowerDork
10/30/17 12:36 p.m.

In reply to RealMiniParker :

Now that I would pay for!!

ps. that was hilarious.

Matthew Kennedy
Matthew Kennedy Reader
10/30/17 1:56 p.m.

In reply to RealMiniParker :

I would pay a respectable sum for this service. 

NOT A TA
NOT A TA Dork
10/30/17 2:40 p.m.

Lots of people have air lock entries of some type. Just set it up so delivery guy can get onto the enclosed front porch or whatever. Then stuff is out of the weather and sight of outsiders but delivery guy doesn't actually have interior access.

trigun7469
trigun7469 SuperDork
10/30/17 2:43 p.m.

 

 

 

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
10/30/17 2:47 p.m.

Never going to happen at my house.

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
10/30/17 2:51 p.m.

Wow to some people here. Still not letting strangers in my house. You're applying way too much rationality to people who are quite obviously irrational.

 

 

ChadeuxCougarMelonChapman
ChadeuxCougarMelonChapman SuperDork
10/30/17 3:01 p.m.

In reply to tuna55 :

Who's being irrational here? The people that think the delivery guy might scratch their floor and trip over something injuring themselves, or the people going straight to rape and murder? 

Either way, interesting idea, but put me down as a no.

pheller
pheller PowerDork
10/30/17 3:04 p.m.

Perhaps not our demographic, but there are tremendous amounts of people who are perfectly ok with lots of people being in and around their houses while not there. Dog sitters, house sitters, babysitters, cleaners, gardners, pool boys, the list goes on. You may say "well I can meet those people individually and I know who they are," but that doesn't make them any less of a risk from a statisticaly standpoint. 

I have some family who have very very wealth clients, and it's amazing the amount of people they employ whom access their properties while they are away. Now granted, these people do not keep their social security cards or anything like that in their homes, but they do entrust significant value in property with relative strangers. 

Again, the Amazon Key system is supposed to be paired with a camera.

Although I think I'd be happy with a Nest Outdoor or something similar so not only can I see when my package arrives an who delivered it, I can see all kinds of other fun stuff happening at my house while I'm away.

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
10/30/17 3:11 p.m.

In reply to ChadeuxCougarMelonChapman :

No, I mean that criminals are irrational, not the other commenters.

XLR99
XLR99 Dork
10/30/17 3:12 p.m.

I'm with Wae on this - probably about .0004 seconds after this was announced, I'm sure that hackers worldwide were re-tasked to find a way to break that code.

The wierd random stuff my kids buy can stay out on the front step like it always has...

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo Mod Squad
10/30/17 3:17 p.m.
Appleseed said:

Nope. 

 

Nope nope nope nope. 

I came in to post this. Now, I can't stop laughing at the idea of PJPrime and all the "services" it could offer. Lol

This seems like an excellent product for capturing unsuspecting delivery people.

I couldn't believe when google glass was a real thing, then live mics like Alexa with potential for essentially wire-tapping yourself to sell your requests to advertisers pop up everywhere. TVs with live cameras for two way communication send images from your homes to remote servers. Phones with GPS follow you where ever you go. Track what ever you do and send it somewhere you can't control. So... yeah, why not. What could possibly go wrong with this proliferation of tools instrumenting our worlds with no control over the data? Might as well let them open the door so they won't need to bash it in when they come for you.

 

 

The people will not revolt. They will not look up from their screens long enough to notice what is happening. --George Orwell, 1984 (written in 1949)

 

 

nope. not in my house.

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