My uncle had a massive stroke- went to the ICU.
Turns out he was the only person on the ICU who did not have COVID.
He was there less than 24 hours. Only had 4 visitors (his kids) while he was there. He passed away. Now 3 out of 4 of his kids have COVID.
How come health professionals working IN A HOSPITAL can't handle this better?
berkeley.
Sorry to say I'm amazed they allowed the visitors. A friend's dad was hospitalized for similar non covid reasons and she didn't get to see him before he passed.
In reply to Apexcarver :
I would have undeerstood that.
Around here you can't go into the hospital if you're not the patient.
Datsun310Guy said:Around here you can't go into the hospital if you're not the patient.
Same here. My neighbor's dad passed away and his son could not visit him. It was not covid.
Sorry about your uncle SVreX.
Datsun310Guy said:Around here you can't go into the hospital if you're not the patient.
The better question is, Why the berkeley would ANYONE want to go to a hospital if its a freaking petri dish? It doesn't matter if they are the patient or not.
That's not acceptable for a hospital.
It's berkeleying baffling. My friend is in a specialized cancer floor, hasn't seen her kid in two months because of their policy and still managed to catch it.
My company has done extensive work in hospitals since COVID started. Picture 50 men working round the clock in full hazmat suits.
9 months later, with more than 1500 employees and subcontractors exposed to environments like that, no one has gotten sick.
We've kept friggen construction workers safe. Why can't a hospital keep a couple visitors safe for 1 day?
We got lucky, had a baby on Halloween and I (father) was able to be there. Lots of restrictions, but I hated the risk. Thankfully it was during the local lull before the storm.
Sorry to hear about your uncle. We'll pray that your cousins have speedy and very uneventful recoveries.
I was actually very surprised that when I went in my for hernia surgery a little over a week ago, they let my wife come back with me and hang out in the pre-op room for about two hours until they took me back to see the robot. Spreading covid is nothing new, though: hospitals basically invented MRSA....
My condolences to you and your family.
My dad went into the hospital in September.
From the hospital to a therapeutic nursing home, back into the hospital, and finally into the nursing home where he died months later.
We were finally allowed to see him that night after he died. We had to fully suit up.
I am sad I didn't see him in his last months, but I am really glad neither he nor we contracted COVID, nor did we spread it. It's highly contagious, and viral load is a huge part of the equation as well.
I have no idea how or why hospitals are letting this many visitors in to see people when the virus is this out of control.
If any of that is considered a flat fish at the bottom of the ocean, I am perfectly fine with my post being edited or deleted.
In reply to SVreX (Forum Supporter) :
Sorry for your loss.
Too many things still slip through the cracks despite the recommended precautions. Hope they are remedied in the future.
In reply to SVreX (Forum Supporter) :
Condolences to your family.
Perhaps the kids didn't get infected at the hospital?
No one but workers and hospitalized people allowed in hospitals here.
In reply to NOT A TA :
Maybe.
But they are grown kids. They all have different homes, and hadn't spent time together. It's not a logical conclusion.
In reply to SVreX (Forum Supporter) :
Did they visit simultaneously? Or at least while the same staff were on the clock?
SVreX (Forum Supporter) said:My company has done extensive work in hospitals since COVID started. Picture 50 men working round the clock in full hazmat suits.
9 months later, with more than 1500 employees and subcontractors exposed to environments like that, no one has gotten sick.
We've kept friggen construction workers safe. Why can't a hospital keep a couple visitors safe for 1 day?
Because some hospitals are run by greedy idiots.
I won't go into specifics for my own personal privacy, but the major hospital chain in my city- Catholic Health Incorporated- decided that it was best to pretend that everything was fine in my state, whereas my hospital closed completely to all outsiders last February and hasn't changed that. Like your company, none of our workforce has had exposures within the hospital; meanwhile, CHI has closed up numerous times because breakouts occur that get large numbers of staff il only to reopen and restart the process weeks later.
I was gonna make my own thread about it but... honestly, the American health system is coming apart and huge amounts of resources are being shuttled into making people think everything's fine instead of tackling real issues with COVID care (and thus, healthcare in general). These patients are extremely hands-on thanks to their suctioning needs and us needing to turn and prone them so often for good results, and even then it's 4 months by law before hospitals see any payback from insurance companies for cares given. Hospitals in my area have found the hard way, that there simply is no way a single nurse can care for 4 COVID patients... except they routinely had 5 to 6 even in the ICUs.
Sorry about your uncle and cousins, Paul.
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to SVreX (Forum Supporter) :
Did they visit simultaneously? Or at least while the same staff were on the clock?
Yes
Thank each of you for your condolences and well wishes.
Sorry for your loss Paul.
FIL had major surgery 2 days ago and MIL is allowed to visit. Carli is having minor surgery Tuesday and I'm not allowed to go farther than dropping her off at the curb. 2 different hospital systems.
The hospital systems and states are playing with a flat ball that was dropped by the entirety of the federal government in January/February when we knew this was possible, they should have taken proactive steps instead of just reacting like headless chickens.
In reply to SVreX (Forum Supporter) :
And what exactly is it that you think hospitals should be doing differently to protect people in the building? I ask because Mrs NOHOME is an ICU nurse and her going to work everyday scares me, not to mention her arriving back from the petri dish. So if you have some inside info on how I can be safe, I am listening.
By the way, there are no visitors allowed in the ICU where she works. Or the hospital for that matter. Its for the family's own good.
Pete
In reply to NOHOME :
That's probably a question for management of the hospital where your wife works. Maybe they are already doing a fine job..
That doesn't appear to be the case where my uncle was.
I can tell you some of the things we have assisted with in the hospitals we have worked in...
Tight infectious controls, improved mechanical ventilation, segregation of ventilation systems by rooms, limited access, air gap separations separate buildings) between COVID wards and others...
Your fear suggests to me that you don't have enough information to have a reasonable level of comfort. Ask more questions.
The truth is that medical construction professionals may be better equipped to manage decent isolation and containment than healthcare professionals...
Our work has ALWAYS involved managing this stuff. We've been doing it for 50 years. We enter through separate entrances, contain our waste, work in negative pressure environments, isolate ventialtion systems, remove contaminated clothing before leaving infectious areas, daily monitor barriers and negative/ positive pressure systems...
A hospital that allows visitors into COVID wards, or has staff that remove their mask to scratch their nose is showing their own weaknesses.
They should be much better at it than construction companies, but they are not.
our local hospitals are closed up tight like a drum. A few weeks ago I had to take my mother in because he blood pressure was alternating from dangerously high to dangerously low and back again (it was her new medicine, it was too strong) and while I could walk her into the ER, I had to turn around and walk right back out. had the choices of going home, wandering around, or taking a nap in the car while I waited.
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