Danger to Mani7old

And the baroness has declared that we are going to go see this when it comes out. In IMAX if at all possible in order to fully soak in all the 'splosion.

I think that all of us GRMers should get together and write a car-action centered screen play. I'm quite sure that we could do better than F&F 2, but could we possibly top the original Gone in 60 Seconds,Mad Max or Bullit?

Honestly, F&F 1, 5 and 6 weren't half bad either.

In reply to HappyAndy:

Having enthusiasts write the script isn't always a good thing. IMO, the best car movies are movies where the cars are just part of the atmosphere (American Graffiti, Dazed & Confused, etc). The more detailed/technical the dialogue gets, the worse the movie gets.

This thread has me watching Ronin right now.

Also I am sorry but the F&F franchise sucks.

You're confusing sucks with bad.

I don't get this, we idolize movies like gone in 60 seconds (original), vanishing point, mad max and bullit but we lambast the F&F series. These are ten times better as movies/entertainment they just may not fit your specific like in cars. Those old movies are terrible!!! (I own them all though)

Gone is awesome because it was guerilla filmmaking.

A stuntman and his buddies made an aweseome car movie without the help of a studio or a huge budget.

Fast and Furious, not so much.

They're all just entertainment. Just shut your brain off and have a good time.

chandlerGTi wrote: I don't get this, we idolize movies like gone in 60 seconds (original), vanishing point, mad max and bullit but we lambast the F&F series. These are ten times better as movies/entertainment they just may not fit your specific like in cars. Those old movies are terrible!!! (I own them all though)

Because: the old / cheap movies have a distinct lack of giving a berk that makes them much more endearing and entertaining and respectable than this overblown, overhyped, overbudgeted F&F crap.

In reply to Duke:

True to an extent, but let's not let nostalgia get the best of us. Bullitt is entirely forgettable except for the chase scene. And Vanishing Point is just nonsensical.

Will wrote: In reply to Duke: True to an extent, but let's not let nostalgia get the best of us. Bullitt is entirely forgettable except for the chase scene. And Vanishing Point is just nonsensical.

Vanishing Point sucks, no question about it. It was idiotic, almost plotless, and full of existentialist crap... but it's real. At least it wasn't a wall of inane, incorrect, pseudo-technical dialog and stupid posturing. F&F is like watching a street dance battle movie - Step Up with ugly videogame cars. Why?

I definitely don't think movies have to be highbrow (or even believable) to be entertaining. But to me, the F&F franchise is a D-list idea with C-list writing and B-list acting, wasting an A-list budget. Just not my cup of energy drink.

I'll be in the theater on opening night with a silly grin on my face. And I'll probably go see it again when it gets to the cheap flicks at 4 dollars a ticket.

Duke wrote:

chandlerGTi wrote: I don't get this, we idolize movies like gone in 60 seconds (original), vanishing point, mad max and bullit but we lambast the F&F series. These are ten times better as movies/entertainment they just may not fit your specific like in cars. Those old movies are terrible!!! (I own them all though)

Because: the old / cheap movies have a distinct lack of giving a berk that makes them *much* more endearing and entertaining and respectable than this overblown, overhyped, overbudgeted F&F crap.

You forgot "Get off my lawn!"

To me the problem with F&F is not that it's unrealistic or overblown (everything Hollywood does is some combination of those two), but the fact that it seemed they wanted to market the franchise to the "car enthusiast community" and didn't bother to use someone from that community to sanity-check the movie.

Yes, there is going to need to be suspension of disbelief. A Charger is not going to jump a river using a broken bridge and keep on haulin' ass down the dirt road runnin' from the county sheriff. We get that. But the idiotic DANGER TO MANIFOLD laptop while the diamond-plate floormat spews about a dozen fasteners and falls through a hole in the floor for no reason because of the popped intake manifold welds... I mean, just, GAAAAH Any time jargon is used in the first movie, it sounds like they just scraped a bunch of words from a glossary and threw it into the dialog like a MadLib. No, I don't expect movie people to know cars stuff like car people, and I don't think a successful movie is likely to have an accurate dialog about roll centers or tuning adjustable cam gears, but COME ON. Get someone knowledgeable to tweak the dialog to make it at least somewhat credible. 2F2F learned a bit from that and dialed out the horrendous misuse of jargon, but they still had the OMGBBQ-every-gauge-swings-to-peak-when-the-NOS-button-is-punched kind of crap leftover from the first. That was far worse to me than the hideous aesthetics of the cars in the first few movies (I honestly gave up after Tokyo Drift, so I don't know if it got better in the later films).

But if they fact checked all of the first movie, we wouldn't have our fun tongue in check sayings. Ever heard someone say "NAWSSS!!!" with all seriousness, and not giggle a little?

Granny shiftin'. Not double clutchin' like you're sposta.

Spoon engines with a Motec System exhaust.

Overnight parts from Japan...

People quickly forget that modified imports in the late nineties WERE that hideous looking. Seriously.

If car movies were accurate, nobody would watch them.

Nothing like a 12 hour movie about block sanding.

Same reason why war movies can't be accurate, nobody wants to spend 48 hours watching a guy dig a hole and hide in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChHv6gyTKSI

In reply to Trans_Maro:

Lol.

Imagine a submarine movie where they go out to sea, do a bunch of drills and training, work silly hours, don't get a lot of sleep and spend a good bit of time cleaning. That would be way to realistic to be entertaining.