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MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt HalfDork
7/25/08 9:46 a.m.
geronimo wrote: I'm just a Minnesota truck operator, but Bill tells me there is 1200 liters of hydrogen in each gallon of distilled water. I interested to see if you software program can prove or disprove it.

No software program needed - the trouble is, a gas expands to fill an arbitrary sized container, so it's much better to go by weight. Here's the math on why I say it's 1/9 hydrogen by weight.

Atomic weight of hydrogen: 1

Atomic weight of oxygen: 16

Total atomic weight of one H2O molecule: 18

Fraction of that atomic weight that's hydrogen: 1/9

So it's 1/9 hydrogen by weight. Gallons is a much less important measure because you could make the volume of hydrogen the size of the Hindenburg or the size of a canoe depending on the pressure.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin Dork
7/25/08 9:35 p.m.
geronimo wrote: I'm just a Minnesota truck operator, but Bill tells me there is 1200 liters of hydrogen in each gallon of distilled water. I interested to see if you software program can prove or disprove it.
geronimo wrote: please add into your equation that the electrolisis that is created by the presence of 33 amps of dc power I use 3 to 5 gallons of water on a 5000 mile trip.

I'm confused about what you drive. Bill drives a truck with a 5.9? Being a diesel engine, the engine displaces 5.9/2 or 2.95L of air per revolution. In other words at 1500rpm @ 60mph (1500 rotations per mile), your engine would turn 7,500,000 rotations in 5000 miles, and displace 22,125,000L of air.

So even 1200L of H * 5 gallons = 6000L. Thats one 3687th of the volume the engine displaces during your trip.

I'm not sure what the density of HHO is at STP, but that would probably net a more relevant but equally insignificant number.

geronimo
geronimo New Reader
7/25/08 11:10 p.m.

I drive a auto transporter, pictured on the site, red freightliner with a series 60 12.7 liter detroit diesel. Bill has a Dodge Diesel Pickup with a 5.9 cummins. 2 wheel drive. That makes your calculations even higher. with the 12.7 instead of a 5.9.The turbo boost is usually about 12 lbs running on flat land and 22 lbs pulling hills. I don't really know how to disprove your calulations, except that when I add up my fuel receipts, and miles, I use less fuel period and that translates into money for me.Perhaps the violitility of the HHO, Oxygen is present also in Browns Gas gives more bang to the combustion process. I'm not as concerned about the formulas and such, just my bottom line dollars and cents. You have made it more interesting. ,

minimac
minimac Dork
7/26/08 7:13 a.m.
geronimo wrote: ....that when I add up my fuel receipts, and miles, I use less fuel period and that translates into money for me.

You can't possibly be using less fuel and saving any money, because the "scientists" say so.

geronimo
geronimo New Reader
7/27/08 1:20 a.m.

Sorry, but that .75 mpg I get from Browns gas is worth $345.00 USD that I can use for something other than fuel, Oh forgot, I have to figure in the 3 gallons of distilled water @ .92 = 2.76 anyway it makes the savings. The people I am leased to compare fuel use and my truck does the best, and it's the oldest one running in the fleet. These figures are for a 3000 mile trip. I don't know what the scientists are missing, but it works. The neat side benefit is that I also save some on fuel taxes. Perhaps when the electrolisis and the combination of H and O multiply or something, I don't know. Thanks for the conversation.....

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