Even Florida wants to saw off Florida

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/22/us/south-florida-secession-new-state/

Does this create an infinite loop of Florida-blaming?

It probably should. But Texas is way ahead of them, they continually try to secede. It doesn't really begin or end, it just is. The latest effort, by no means the first or only: http://texassecede.com/

Texas wants to secede from the union, Florida wants to split.

Give in to both and we don't need to change the flag

Hmm.... what a surprise---- they want a new state including all of the major cities in Florida-- except for Jacksonville.

They claim "rising sea levels", but include Orlando---which is in the center of the state.

Sounds like they just want to cast away the rural vote in the northern-center of the state, and keep all the tax revenue from the metropolitan areas. Yeah...Good luck with that.

I'd understand if this was a Miami thing---- it's already a different country down there.

Wasn't California trying to do this not too long ago?

Could this happen? I live in NW FL. This is the first I've heard of that proposal.

Joe Gearin wrote: I'd understand if this was a Miami thing---- it's already a different country down there.

The article says it was proposed by S. Miami Commissioners, so it IS a Miami thing.

I haven't been to Miami since the late 80s. That experience caused me not to want to return. It was already a different country. I waited in line at a Shoneys to be seated for breakfast and the hostess related to my wife and I as though we weren't there. I finally chased her down in the middle of the restaurant. We were seated next. No telling what I ate that morning.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Wasn't California trying to do this not too long ago?

'California' was not trying to do it. Tim Draper was pushing a proposal to split California into 6 different states, but it failed to gather enough petition signatures to qualify as a ballot initiative. So the most you could say is that 750K Californians (slightly less than 2% of the state population) were trying to do it, and even then there were allegations that a lot of those signatures were fraudulent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias

Everyone who doesn't live in Chicago would like it to split off from the rest of the state...

codrus wrote:

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Wasn't California trying to do this not too long ago?

'California' was not trying to do it. Tim Draper was pushing a proposal to split California into 6 different states, but it failed to gather enough petition signatures to qualify as a ballot initiative. So the most you could say is that 750K Californians (slightly less than 2% of the state population) were trying to do it, and even then there were allegations that a lot of those signatures were fraudulent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias

The problem is that thanks to geography, where I grew up (Ventura County) would get stuck with the lunatics we want to be rid of. Same for Orange County, probably. I can't figure out a way we could secede from the rest of the coast and be part of the Eastern/Northern portion of the state. We'd be like the Alaska of California. And somehow we'd have to convince the bay area to take Sacramento, and no one wants that.

Can we just put a big fence across the Everglades? I'd gladly vote for Miami to split without including anything north of the 75/95 interchange

petegossett wrote: Everyone who *doesn't* live in Chicago would like it to split off from the rest of the state...

See a lot of people say that, but the truth is that Cook County politics need to stop affecting the rest of the state. I love visiting Chicago, but I wouldn't want to live there.

Illinois politics are berkeleyed up no matter what side of the table your on. Almost every politician in out state government is corrupt one way or the other.

Isn't Miami the capitol of South America?

Can we sell South Florida to Quebec and forage a new nation called "Le E36 M3?"

I'm still waiting for upstate NY to split from NYC and Long Island.

In reply to neon4891:

It would never happen. Without people in NYC sending their tax money upstate there'd be nothing keeping it open.

I still maintain that allowing MD to secede from Baltimore, Montgomery and PG counties would be a net gain for the rest of us.

While we're at it can we combine a few? Honestly New Hampshire AND Vermont? Stick those twins together and have one decent state. Same with Connecticut and Rhode Island. Maryland could absorb Delaware not problem. And you can't tell me the two Dakotas need individual representation for their respective tiny populations.

Now once we consolidate a few freeing up room on the flag we can break up some of the giant states, three Californias and two Floridas sounds reasonable to me. Do it right and we stay at the "perfect" 50 but more evenly distributed.

Can I get elected now?

TRoglodyte wrote: Isn't Miami the capitol of South America?

It is the capitol of mostly nekkid cuban chicks for sure.

Grizz wrote: I still maintain that allowing MD to secede from Baltimore, Montgomery and PG counties would be a net gain for the rest of us.

What is the deal with that little triangle of MD below western PA? Give that E36 M3 to WV or PA while you are at it.

They can split off if they want, but no way they are becoming a 51st state. They leave, they are on their own down there with Cuba.

I know I've posted this map before, but here's my proposed map of the USA

pinchvalve wrote: They can split off if they want, but no way they are becoming a 51st state. They leave, they are on their own down there with Cuba as the 53rd state after adding Puerto rico and Canada

Fixed it for you

Anyone else I need to offend today?

On a more serious note, the want to be free of a climate change denying governor who has his eyes closed and fingers in his ears going 'lalala I can't hear you' as the sea water is lapping around his ankles. Do you blame them?

Afghanistan and Iraq caused us lots of problems, lots of people were dying, Afghanistan was producing terrorists without rule of law.

Why haven't we invaded Mexico yet and cleaned up their mess with the cartels?

I'd love to live in San Pedro de la Cueva, Sonora. Big lake, mountains, small town, always warm.