Come on now.....didn't know my dad was a criminal either.
Come on now.....didn't know my dad was a criminal either.
My dad was also a criminal! Probably could have been Federal charges because I was driving our motor home on his lap, on the highways of more states than I can count at age 9.
To be honest, the speed limit was only 55 back then, a 7 yr old can handle that.
Sheesh. A quick glance at google maps shows it as a residential neighborhood. One of the highlights of my childhood was those early "drives." I did the same with both of my girls.
Times have changed.
I drove an Amtrak Turboliner for a few miles when I was eight or nine. My father somehow talked his way into the cab and the engineer let me have the controls for a bit. I'm sure many, many laws and regulations were violated that day.
In reply to 02Pilot :
There was an Airbus over Asia (I think the pilots were Kazakh) where the pilot let his children 'fly' the plane while it was in autopilot.
As it turns out, if you operate a control of an Airbus for longer or further than a given threshold, it will disable autopilot for that control. (Just that control). The pilot's son had been yanking on the control yoke so much that it disabled autopilot and the plane ended up going into a tighter and tighter curve until the plane wound up inverted. This was at night over BFE so this was all in instruments.
I remember this because this is one of those situations where not knowing how something failsafes ultimately caused the crash. They didn't know that control inputs could disable autopilot for only one control input. (They also might not have sat them in the pilot's seat if they knew this) Thus, they didn't know that the autopilot disabled. Thus, they didn't know that all they really had to do was re-engage autopilot instead of trying to right an aircraft in IFR conditions. (I believe when the situation made itself known, the G forces were great enough that they were shouting instructions to his son because he was the one in the pilot's seat and they couldn't move)
Streetwiseguy said:Times have changed.
Cars today have airbags, which can kill a child.
Cars back then had solid steering columns attached directly to the steering box, which would also kill a child (and a parent) but nobody really cared about that back then.
Many of us got to drive at a very young age, that may be part of why we all enjoy this forum. But a 2 year old? And now cars have airbags that can do a lot of damage when deployed. This parent is just an idiot.
The airbag has me concerned, but I'd be a liar if I said I never did it.
The eldest helped me "drive" my 1966 Impala up the driveway as soon as he could stand. We'd later go to a big empty parking lot and I'd let him steer Mrs. Hungary's Saab Sport-Kombi around while I operated the pedals.
The roads though were always a bit of a different story for me. I'd probably just let the guy off with a warning about safety.
How fast do you have to be going and hit a concrete wall head-on to set off the air bags? I learned to drive like that, my son learned to drive like that and if I ever have grandchildren they will learn like that, if I have anything to do with it. I'm absolutely confident that I can pull that off without death and destruction or the berkeleying cops.
Of all the things a cop could be doing to protect and serve, they chose this to make an arrest.
How stupid do you have to be to be a cop? Or do you just need to be a brain-dead dickhead? It's no wonder they are so despised.
I absolutely let my daughter "drive" on my lap, almost every day from the bus stop. It's a private Class 6 road, however, so the risk is pretty close to nil. I will accept that it isn't zero and continue to do so.
I don't think I'd feel comfortable doing it on a public roadway though, having said that...
My grandpa sat me on his lap and let me "drive" until my grandma yelled at him so I had to scoot over to the middle of the bench seat.
Otherwise I learned to drive in our pasture, on gravel roads, and at go-cart tracks.
My folks never let me drive like that, but I did get to ride head out of the sun roof of Mom's Austin Devon. Also got to ride in the RHD Morris Minor that had no floors age 3. Sometimes carried a steering wheel
. Never a police glance, but the woman in the new '56 Buick was unforgettable looking at me in the Morris and curbing her Buick!
Arrested? Jesus man just reprimand the dude. I agree with Toyman. I bet the guy didn't show sufficient boot licking in response to a wrist slap so the cop felt he just had to assert his authoritay.
It does seem excessive, but we're also assuming that this was the first time he'd been stopped for this.
I feel like there's more to the story for him to be arrested. Not siding with the cops here, but something seems off for that to have to happen.
The Juliet Patch says
Nero has been the subject of numerous Joliet Patch crime articles over the past several years.
For instance strangling.....
https://patch.com/illinois/joliet/strangling-nancy-vallera-lane-lands-joliet-man-jail-again-cops
Or domestic violence....
In reply to 02Pilot :
My dad was a test engineer for GE transportation back in the day. I drove more than one locomotive that the Chinese purchased at about that age. I couldn't think of that happening now a days.
I missed his priors - cops making a point by arresting him.
What about the 17 year old burnout with the case of returnable beer bottles sliding around the back of his 4-speed, clapped out, orange Toyota Corolla wagon that as a 14 year old I talked him into letting me drive his car......statute of limitations are a good thing.
yeah, this guy is a class act all around, and now he has a 2 year old child he's supposed to raise......
NermalSnert (Forum Supporter) said:How fast do you have to be going and hit a concrete wall head-on to set off the air bags?
I know 30-35kph will do it 
My dad and cousin would've also been criminals, but airbags were mostly in high-end cars back then...
Guys got a lot of prior felony's in the Illinois prisoner search - lots of time served for aggravated battery. Just paroled this past January. Celebrating life with his little boy......
Time to kill the thread - don't need him heading up my way.....
In reply to Datsun240ZGuy :
With a rap sheet like that, that seems to indicate a level of hot headedness/impulsive behavior that may need active thought and introspection to control, it makes you wonder if, as a retired police officer friend used to say, he talked himself into the back of the car.
"I WAS going to let him off with a warning, but he really wanted to be arrested that day."
I do hope for his and his family's sake that he will be able to find that. Everyone has personal failings to overcome, but it takes effort and introspection for growth.
Well I guess there's a lot of things you can't do anymore. I remember going out in the service truck with my Dad many times as a kid and by the time I was a teenager I'd be wearing a company tee shirt and helping. Insurance rules alone would keep that from happening now. It's too bad, I knew what i was getting into when I joined the trade and knew a lot of the guys as well.
Heck, I've got pictures of my son when he was around 6 sitting in the lap of the crane operator in a 200 ton hydraulic crane with a large rooftop HVAC unit (older and being replaced) on the hook. He'd been going with me on Saturdays when I had a crane job since he was about 4. All the guys knew him and at some point the owner of the crane company had gotten him a kid size tee shirt with the company name and logo on it. He'd test all the air horns in the tractors, ride in the cab with the oiler if we had to move the crane down the building between picks, help hand out the coffee order at break, he loved it.
If you look closely in the picture you can see both of them looking up at the unit wearing the matching tee shirts, his hands are on the control joy sticks with the operator's fingers close by. Following the operator's instructions he set the unit down on a flatbed trailer. He still talks about how cool it was and he's closing in on 30 now. No way that could happen today.
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