Dr. Hess wrote:
poopshovel wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
4cylndrfury wrote:
And then there was the lady...neon something or other...whose daughter was killed while riding as a passenger in some asshats hopped up civic, who basically said its the fault of anyone with a performance car that her daughter is dead, cars are solely for transportation, and those who seek performance are the devil.
...felt bad for her loss, but man, did she suck!
If that's the same one I'm thinking of, she was wanting the FL state legislature to pass a surcharge on all motorsports so the money could be used to teach kids about the dangers of street racing.
She's still at it, BTW. I recently saw her on the NPR message boards trying to lobby for the same stuff.
We should do doughnuts on her lawn.
I'm in.
I have this image of her holding a shotgun and mothing that infamous Clint Eastwood meme, "Get off my lawn."
914Driver wrote:
DILYSI Dave wrote:
worksgarage.
I told Crumudgeon about the Challenge. I knew who the staff were, they have no idea who I am. When I met Margie when she had a five year old climbing all over her and a little boy dancing around. My plan was to shake her hand when she was all tied up with a kid and I had a firm grip on her right hand, I'd say "Hi, I'm WorksGarage".
I think she would still kick my ass. 
I remember you saying you wanted to do that! What, ten years ago?
Joey
JoeyM
SuperDork
3/28/12 8:42 p.m.
poopshovel wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
4cylndrfury wrote:
And then there was the lady...neon something or other...whose daughter was killed while riding as a passenger in some asshats hopped up civic, who basically said its the fault of anyone with a performance car that her daughter is dead, cars are solely for transportation, and those who seek performance are the devil.
...felt bad for her loss, but man, did she suck!
If that's the same one I'm thinking of, she was wanting the FL state legislature to pass a surcharge on all motorsports so the money could be used to teach kids about the dangers of street racing.
She's still at it, BTW. I recently saw her on the NPR message boards trying to lobby for the same stuff.
We should do doughnuts on her lawn.
Found it. She's currently using the name Neon18. Here's the thread on NPR
http://www.npr.org/2012/02/29/147621392/do-nascar-races-contribute-to-motorists-wrecks
The problem with the whole idea is that it not only would raise the costs of what we do, it would also be doomed to fail. She's operating under the false assumption that education (i.e. making teens aware of how risky street racing and reckless driving are) will make the kids less likely to engage in risky behavior.
That's rubbish. They already know about the risks.
"It's not that adolescents don't understand risk. They understand it perfectly well," says Beatriz Luna, a neuroscientist at the University of Pittsburgh. "It's just that they find it more rewarding to impress their peers, and things of that sort, than the risk that's involved to their actual survival; it's just what they value at that point."http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/19/health/mental-health/teen-brain-impulses/index.html
I'm not a neuroscientist, but it seems that teens' brains are wired differently; i.e. they are
are set up to seek risk and do so more around their peers than when alone.
The only solution is to do what we do; provide a safe, legal place for them to seek excitement, novelty, and the praise of their peers....legal motorsports kept at affordable rates.
JoeyM
SuperDork
3/28/12 8:44 p.m.
friedgreencorrado wrote:
And then there was that time the street racers came in and told us all how lame we were for doing organized racing. Didn't a couple of those guys eventually get arrested?
Yeah, Yusef Islam and his trio of Gainesville morons. Unfortunately, they were acquitted. (I'm not sure why...they were filming for their illegal street video DVDs.)
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20110107/ARTICLES/110109651/1169?Title=3-men-accused-of-street-racing
JoeyM is my new favorite. I love that pic. For a bunch of internet toughguys they sure look like the recipients of the "Most likely to get raped in prison like wad of cookie dough" award, don't they?
psteav
HalfDork
3/28/12 9:13 p.m.
poopshovel wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
4cylndrfury wrote:
And then there was the lady...neon something or other...whose daughter was killed while riding as a passenger in some asshats hopped up civic, who basically said its the fault of anyone with a performance car that her daughter is dead, cars are solely for transportation, and those who seek performance are the devil.
...felt bad for her loss, but man, did she suck!
If that's the same one I'm thinking of, she was wanting the FL state legislature to pass a surcharge on all motorsports so the money could be used to teach kids about the dangers of street racing.
She's still at it, BTW. I recently saw her on the NPR message boards trying to lobby for the same stuff.
We should do doughnuts on her lawn.
With Tony Orlando and Dawn?
psteav wrote:
poopshovel wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
4cylndrfury wrote:
And then there was the lady...neon something or other...whose daughter was killed while riding as a passenger in some asshats hopped up civic, who basically said its the fault of anyone with a performance car that her daughter is dead, cars are solely for transportation, and those who seek performance are the devil.
...felt bad for her loss, but man, did she suck!
If that's the same one I'm thinking of, she was wanting the FL state legislature to pass a surcharge on all motorsports so the money could be used to teach kids about the dangers of street racing.
She's still at it, BTW. I recently saw her on the NPR message boards trying to lobby for the same stuff.
We should do doughnuts on her lawn.
With Tony Orlando and Dawn?
I thought about it, but thought the reference may be too obscure.
914Driver wrote:
DILYSI Dave wrote:
worksgarage.
I told Crumudgeon about the Challenge. I knew who the staff were, they have no idea who I am. When I met Margie when she had a five year old climbing all over her and a little boy dancing around. My plan was to shake her hand when she was all tied up with a kid and I had a firm grip on her right hand, I'd say "Hi, I'm WorksGarage".
I think she would still kick my ass.
Whew. You two just jumped the line to become part of Margie's patio. I feel safer now. 
I thought about it, but thought the reference may be too obscure.
Bitchin' Camaro references aside, tire tracks on a lawn won't last, nor will they transcend regular, petty revenge and soar into the realms of the sublime.
What would be better is for a bunch of racers to organize a hugely successful Toys for Tots, a Food drive or other charitable work.
Likewise, there could be a bunch of racers or car people who offered "scholarships" to the street survival series of events so young kids could learn how to really drive.
JoeyM
SuperDork
3/29/12 4:33 a.m.
Brett_Murphy wrote:
I thought about it, but thought the reference may be too obscure.
What would be better is for a bunch of racers to organize a hugely successful Toys for Tots, a Food drive or other charitable work.
Sunshine State Minis does the Undie 500, and MSCC does a toy drive each Christmas. (We give the toys to the local Sherrif's Dept. as part of their charitable toy drive.)
Brett_Murphy wrote:
What would be better is for a bunch of racers to organize a hugely successful Toys for Tots, a Food drive or other charitable work.
Likewise, there could be a bunch of racers or car people who offered "scholarships" to the street survival series of events so young kids could learn how to really drive.
Now this is an idea we can get behind for the $2012 Challenge.
joey48442 wrote:
I remember you saying you wanted to do that! What, ten years ago?
Joey
'04. But if you knew me, you'd know I don't have the nads. Hell, I had a hard time getting up to receive a trophy! I don't relish the spotlight.
Dan
93EXCivic wrote:
Dr. Hess wrote:
poopshovel wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
4cylndrfury wrote:
And then there was the lady...neon something or other...whose daughter was killed while riding as a passenger in some asshats hopped up civic, who basically said its the fault of anyone with a performance car that her daughter is dead, cars are solely for transportation, and those who seek performance are the devil.
...felt bad for her loss, but man, did she suck!
If that's the same one I'm thinking of, she was wanting the FL state legislature to pass a surcharge on all motorsports so the money could be used to teach kids about the dangers of street racing.
She's still at it, BTW. I recently saw her on the NPR message boards trying to lobby for the same stuff.
We should do doughnuts on her lawn.
I'm in.
I want to join in.
setting money aside to get mudders for Bertha (the F150)
Yeah, I remember that woman. I put her in the same category as the people who want to ban guns: blame an inanimate object for the actions of the person holding or operating it. I seem to recall that was put to her several times but she didn't want to hear it.
Don't want to do donuts on her lawn (I learned a long time ago that backfires badly! 
) but I could definitely get behind a Toys for Tots, food drive, etc.
In reply to Curmudgeon:
Never actually trenched a yard or ever will.
Bertha kinda stands out in a crowd anyway.
Brett_Murphy wrote:
I thought about it, but thought the reference may be too obscure.
Bitchin' Camaro references aside, tire tracks on a lawn won't last, nor will they transcend regular, petty revenge and soar into the realms of the sublime.
What would be better is for a bunch of racers to organize a hugely successful Toys for Tots, a Food drive or other charitable work.
Likewise, there could be a bunch of racers or car people who offered "scholarships" to the street survival series of events so young kids could learn how to really drive.
Our donate proceeds to a charity in her daughters name!
Joey
Lesley
UberDork
3/29/12 1:56 p.m.
Agreed. Grief can make some people crazy, better to just spend the energy on something positive.
joey48442 wrote:
Our donate proceeds to a charity in her daughters name!
Perfect. I don't want to diminish anybody's grief, and likewise I don't like being painted with a very broad brush that includes idiots who street-race.
wbjones
UltraDork
3/29/12 6:35 p.m.
JoeyM wrote:
bravenrace wrote:
In reply to DukeOfUndersteer:
idunno, but I like your new avatar.
I like Lesley's new avatar.
for the most part we just like Lesley
