Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon SuperDork
11/8/11 10:07 a.m.

Drink up!

Ha! Gotcha.

Here's what I'm looking for: at some point (I believe the 1970's with the Clean Water Act) the EPA began requiring retention ponds and similar devices to control stormwater runoff point source pollution and also localized flooding. I need that date. Ordinarily my Google-fu is strong but it fails me on this. Can anyone point me to a source for this info?

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 Dork
11/8/11 10:42 a.m.

Oh, sure. Tease us with free beer, then renege on the deal, and expect a favor from us! Good luck with that.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon SuperDork
11/8/11 10:46 a.m.

That's what I'm all about: something for nothing. To anybody else who gets suckered in: finding this date is pretty important, it has to do with managing one of my dad's properties.

Oh, and my brother has a sign in his house: 'Free Beer Tomorrow'.

cwh
cwh SuperDork
11/8/11 10:48 a.m.

You obviously come from a strange family. Lot's of that around here.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Dork
11/8/11 10:59 a.m.

The Wiki article on Stormwater lists 1972 as the date, if I understand what you're looking for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormwater

alfadriver
alfadriver SuperDork
11/8/11 11:41 a.m.

Buy me a beer sometime.

http://www.epa.gov/lawsregs/laws/cwa.html

Amazing what you can get from the source. 1948 was the first Federal Law for Pollution. Amendments happened in 1972 as part as the Clean Air Act, and then amendments happened in 1977 that then changed this particular part to the Clean Water Act. Here's the history page, according to the EPA- http://www.epa.gov/lawsregs/laws/cwahistory.html

fasted58
fasted58 SuperDork
11/8/11 11:44 a.m.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon SuperDork
11/8/11 2:27 p.m.

Cool! I had found the CWA page but nothing as specific as what alfa found It specifically mentions piping which is very important). Thanks! I'll buy you a beer tomorrow.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve SuperDork
11/8/11 2:31 p.m.

I used to be in stormwater. (the industry, not stormwater literally.) I still have some contacts if you need something.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla SuperDork
11/8/11 2:42 p.m.

I feel very let down.

With that said, I always wanted to start a crappy band with the name "Free Beer" and play local bars. We'd be selling out every night!

alfadriver
alfadriver SuperDork
11/8/11 4:21 p.m.
Curmudgeon wrote: Cool! I had found the CWA page but nothing as specific as what alfa found It specifically mentions piping which is very important). Thanks! I'll buy you a beer tomorrow.

I'll raise one in your honor, and call it even. Glad I could help.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo SuperDork
11/8/11 4:24 p.m.

Is this related to the Dam Beavers?

petegossett
petegossett SuperDork
11/8/11 4:29 p.m.

I know a couple guys who accidentally started a band called "Titties & Beer". They don't actually book gigs, they just show up at local bars with an acoustic guitar & battery-powered keyboard, then proceed to get tanked & jam.

They're both retired, so this happens pretty frequently. :)

imirk
imirk Reader
11/8/11 4:35 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote: I feel very let down. With that said, I always wanted to start a crappy band with the name "Free Beer" and play local bars. We'd be selling out every night!

In Grand Rapids there was a morning radio show titled "Free Beer and Hot Wings in the Morning" was a pretty standard Rock/Alt.Rock morning show, appreantly got syndicated at least a bit.

Maroon92
Maroon92 SuperDork
11/8/11 5:46 p.m.

Got syndicated alot bit. They are on 29 stations now. I've listened to them since the first episode.

Mazdax605
Mazdax605 Dork
11/8/11 6:01 p.m.

They're on a station on Cape Cod. Seems like the typical morning drive time hack stuff to me. I may be a bit jaded with Sirius though.

wbjones
wbjones SuperDork
11/8/11 6:06 p.m.

true ?? probably not... but the story is that a bar put on the marque "FREE BEER HERE TONIGHT" .... 'course that was the name of the band..

imirk
imirk Reader
11/8/11 6:09 p.m.

In reply to Maroon92:

It's been three an'a half years since I lived in GR, I do recall the time somone called in to tell them that when they were coming on air to thier station they hurried up to get a valid ID so they could get in on the Free Beer.

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