Got a Job Offer!

Hooray! Got off the phone a bit earlier with the owner of Columbus Brewing Company in OH. They are offering me a job. Pay would be a healthy raise over what I am getting now (~15%), in a place with lower cost of living (~2/3), and I would not have to worry about working nights or weekends. Looks like I would probably be starting sometime in November.

Basically, the head guys at the company are creating the position especially for me. They are expanding rapidly and did not need anyone just yet, but I dropped them a line a month ago and they were so happy with my knowledge, training, and practical experience that they want someone with my background to help the production folks get all the ducks in a row as they undergo the expansion. Add in that I am someone from CA who actually is seeking to move to Columbus, and they wanted to get me there.

I am super stoked.

...but there's a "but"... The fiancee is dealing with some stuff right now. Even though a move to Columbus would be good for her career, she is dealing with some personal stuff right now that she would really like to me to stay and be supportive for. If I take the job, it would mean me moving before her, because she wants me to spend a couple months getting established and being absolutely certain it's a good fit. She really wants me to stay right where we are while she figures a few things out. I really want to move out of a rough work environment and into a better job ASAP. We're thinking of talking with a counselor early next week to hash things out before I get back to Columbus Brewing to finalize things.

Move before the job you have now do you in.

Congrats on the confirmation of your market viability, and fingers crossed that you guys can work this out!

Sine_Qua_Non wrote: Move before the job you have now do you in.

That is what I am thinking. Also trying to explain to SWMBO that my job and schedule significantly limits my ability to give her the emotional support she needs.

I think it is pretty much a done deal that I will be taking the job. The only question is figuring out the time frame.

Beer Baron wrote:

Sine_Qua_Non wrote: Move before the job you have now do you in.

That is what I am thinking. Also trying to explain to SWMBO that my job and schedule significantly limits my ability to give her the emotional support she needs. I think it is pretty much a done deal that I will be taking the job. The only question is figuring out the time frame.

Been in a similar situation like you 12 years ago and I jumped ship to a better job, pay and hours. Never looked back plus the company went bankrupt 1 year after I left.

Congratulations!

And take the new job ASAP. Work with a Counselor if need be, but SWMBO has to realize that your current job is going to kill you.

Javelin wrote: Congratulations! And take the new job ASAP. Work with a Counselor if need be, but SWMBO has to realize that your current job is going to kill you.

+1

Awesome, let me know when you get started, I haven't been to cbc for awhile.

Javelin wrote: Congratulations! And take the new job ASAP. Work with a Counselor if need be, but SWMBO has to realize that she can be replaced.

FTFY.

Awesome news, but sucky that you're dealing with stress as a result. The whole point of looking was to do away with the stress your current employer was dishing out.

Hoping things work out for both of you, and quickly! Regardless, congrats on the cool job offer. Hopefully I'll have reason to get to Columbus one day!

Ohio GRMers smell a Beer BQ

Short answer- take the job. You can't make mama happy if you ain't happy- I know this. Wife and I were having a very tenuous time in our relationship..... and I hated my job. I couldn't dedicate any time to US, because I was too busy focused on fixing the books, as it were. One day, E36 M3 hit the fan at work, and she looked at me and said "quit. I got this". She proceeded to bust her ass and work all the OT she needed to keep us fat dumb and happy. In the process, I was able to sort all my E36 M3 out, better manage the day to day (it was more or less my job anyhow... groceries, cooking, etc) she got the kick in the ass she needed to make use of that piece of paper that cost us 40 grand. Almost a year later, we're broker than we need to be BUT- I'm happy, she's happy, kids' happy, we're all happy happy happy. Sometimes, you just need to take that leap of faith to better the relationship for the both of you.

It fits in with every long term plan you have previously mentioned, yours and hers both. With all due respect and because I'm married to the same type, she's being a "special little flower" buy wanting the best of both worlds. Do what is right for your long term and let the near term fade into memory.

For dog's sake set that precedence now or you will be pampering a princess at the expense of your own goals and happiness for the rest of your lives together.

JThw8 wrote: It fits in with every long term plan you have previously mentioned, yours and hers both. With all due respect and because I'm married to the same type, she's being a "special little flower" buy wanting the best of both worlds. Do what is right for your long term and let the near term fade into memory. For dog's sake set that precedence now or you will be pampering a princess at the expense of your own goals and happiness for the rest of your lives together.

To be fair, she is not the "princess" type, nor are the issues she's dealing with inconsequential ones. What she is, is very risk averse and not comfortable with uncertainty and rapid change. She prefers to "wait and see".

Part of her concern is that I'll get there and discover the new job or location is not a good fit for me and will just want to leave. That I will make the same mistake jumping into a job that turns out to be a bad fit and wanting to bail quickly like what happened with the current job.

I am trying to assure her that I know for certain this job will be a better fit. They are crafting the position to fit my skills and strengths. The owner spends a lot of time talking about trying to keep the balance between doing good work and having quality of life. The location has a lot more going on than here. I will be able to indulge my hobbies and know I will be able to have a social circle there.

I feel like I am kind of being a jerk making an ultimatum or something, but I really hate the position I am in, and it is very unhealthy for me (quite literally, I went to the doctor yesterday who said I am not getting enough rest). I have the opportunity to get out. If I have to stay in this position because she needs me to be here for an uncertain length of time, I am going to get frustrated with her. I asked if she would be okay if I just quit and let her be the sole income for a while (she makes enough to do so) if it is that important to have me here. She would not do that.

You gotta look out for you. I have no idea what SWMBO means to you, nor do I presume to understand others relationships. BUT- if she's jammin' you up like this- basically forcing you to stick in a job that is quite literally bad for you, something needs to give. I don't mean to say she needs a boot in the ass or anything- but if my wife jammed me up like that I'd be looking VERY hard at our relationship. It's one thing to hop from one dead end job to another, but to have a company make room for you based solely on your skillset speaks a lot to how much they want you, as well as your capabilities as a brew-whatever you are. It'd be like me telling my wife she wasn't allowed to pursue her true passion and had to stay in a group home making less money. I'd be sleeping on the couch...at best.

I think I will probably go ahead and turn in notice at my job tomorrow. That is something I need to do. I will then plan to start the new job sometime this fall. If she wants me to do something different or stretch out the timeline, she has to come up with the plan and let me know what it is. I am not going to stay in the unhealthy job, and I've made that very clear to her.

aussiesmg wrote: Ohio GRMers smell a Beer BQ

Hells yeah! I am stoked to get to hang out with you all.

Congrats sir, all things do work out with time!

Beer Baron wrote: I think I will probably go ahead and turn in notice at my job tomorrow. That is something I need to do. I will then plan to start the new job sometime this fall. If she wants me to do something different or stretch out the timeline, she has to come up with the plan and let me know what it is. I am not going to stay in the unhealthy job, and I've made that very clear to her.

Good on you for putting your foot down, which sounds like it must be very sore from your current job.

Congrats sir, all things do work out with time!

Us Ohi'ers got your back, homeslice.

Beer Baron wrote: I feel like I am kind of being a jerk making an ultimatum or something, but I really hate the position I am in, and it is very unhealthy for me (quite literally, I went to the doctor yesterday who said I am not getting enough rest). I have the opportunity to get out. If I have to stay in this position because she needs me to be here for an uncertain length of time, I am going to get frustrated with her. I asked if she would be okay if I just quit and let her be the sole income for a while (she makes enough to do so) if it is that important to have me here. She would not do that.

I'm a little concerned about that - she knows the position is bad for both your mental and physical wellbeing, wants/needs your support so she can work through her issues (which obviously something that one should offer one's partner in a healthy relationship), yet this reads as if she doesn't want or can't extend some support towards you. This worries me - unless the issues are about money, in which case it would be kind of understandable.

The other question I have is - would you just get frustrated with her because you'd end up "stuck" in a position and place you don't seem to like very much, or would you also get frustrated with her if you missed out on the opportunity in Columbus? A company crafting a position for a new hire is nothing to be dismissed easily these days and I think you'd need to be comfortable with possibly passing on the job if you can't give your new employer a reasonable start date.

Okay. Had dinner. She is cool with it and knows how badly my current position is not working for me. She just really wishes it could have come at a different time. She is looking forward to us being back on the same schedule.

It will still be some ongoing work and seeing a counselor, but we both know how badly I need out.

Well, that sounds much better!

Beer Baron wrote: Hooray! Got off the phone a bit earlier with the owner of Columbus Brewing Company in OH. They are offering me a job.

Congrads. I know you want out.....I used to live near columbus. It's not a bad place.

We still have family in Delaware, OH, so I make it up there occasionally. (once every five years or so, maybe.) If I make it up that way I will look you up.