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Carbon (Forum Supporter)
Carbon (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/30/20 9:12 p.m.

I took one tonight and felt like E36 M3. All set, I’d much rather just be in pain. Weird nauseous feeling, yuck. And I kinda like feeling berked up. Maybe it effects some people differently. 

 

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltimaDork
4/30/20 9:15 p.m.
Carbon (Forum Supporter) said:

 Maybe it effects some people differently. 

 

It does.  Some people get addicted to Alcohol.  Some get addicted to Facebook.  Some get addicted to Coffee.

CJ (It's Just a Flesh Wound)
CJ (It's Just a Flesh Wound) HalfDork
4/30/20 9:17 p.m.
ProDarwin said:
Carbon (Forum Supporter) said:

 Maybe it effects some people differently. 

 

It does.  Some people get addicted to Alcohol.  Some get addicted to Facebook.  Some get addicted to Coffee.

Some people get addicted to GRM devil

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
4/30/20 9:26 p.m.

I can see how. For me, the come up is awesome. You feel a warmth wash over you and suddenly everything hurts less. The problem is, that feeling is very fleeting, and you're replaced with that nauseous sluggish feeling. Taking more can make that initial rush come back. 

 

For me, it really worked. For others, it may not. If I didn't have better self control, it could easily have gone sideways. I was having a lot of personal problems about the time I got hurt- it made the problems go away for a while, both physically and mentally. 

Carbon (Forum Supporter)
Carbon (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/30/20 9:39 p.m.

A friend of mine is berkleyed forever cause of that E36 M3. He was talented as anything, now he’s been a pillhead for 15 years cause he hurt his back and thought he was too may for yoga. 

I’m glad they make me feel so bad. I’ve got pretty good self control so I wanted to try one but wow are they not my thing, 

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
4/30/20 9:42 p.m.
Mndsm said:

I can see how. For me, the come up is awesome. You feel a warmth wash over you and suddenly everything hurts less. The problem is, that feeling is very fleeting, and you're replaced with that nauseous sluggish feeling. Taking more can make that initial rush come back. 

For me, it really worked. For others, it may not. If I didn't have better self control, it could easily have gone sideways. I was having a lot of personal problems about the time I got hurt- it made the problems go away for a while, both physically and mentally. 

Yeah, it works for me, too. Pain goes away and you get an almost euphoric feeling. I don't really get the sluggishness, either. In other words, I need to be really careful with that E36 M3. Worst thing it does to me is make me constipated.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
4/30/20 9:49 p.m.

Two instances I have been on opiates in recent memory. A kidney stone, which was about two weeks and my herniated disc which was 3 months with surgery and therapy.

 

I hurt bad without them, BAD. To the point that I wanted to vomit and with the back would vomit from pain if I tried to move at times. It's hard to say if they actually took the pain away or just made you not care, but I needed one or the other at the time because the pain made quality of life fairly nil. I had some trouble coming off them with the back. Tried to come off too fast and had withdrawal, has to be taken very slowly if you are on them for a longer time. As soon as the pain wasn't absolutely miserable I wanted off stat to be sharper in my head again.

 

There's a lot of docs who prescribe them a bit too lightly. Noone likes to hurt, but some pain is expected. There are cases where the pain is debilitating and just make you want any release for mental healths sake. That's where the strong stuff comes in. 

 

Had some morphine with the kidney stone when I went to ER vomiting from pain. I can COMPLETELY see why that's addictive. Instant relief and bliss. Scary stuff.

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) UltimaDork
4/30/20 9:55 p.m.

I consider myself lucky.  Back 20 years ago I was messing around with this older lady.  She'd show up in the evening and start feeding me Lortabs.  For some reason it keep me to where I'd berk all night.  It wasn't until later that the pill addiction thing came out.  I also remember years later getting a tooth pulled.  The dentist gave me a script in case I felt pain that night.  I filled the script but didn't take any.  Few days later I looked and saw that it was 30 Oxies.  My first thought was that's why we have a pill problem if they hand them out like that.  I won't go into how it affected a very important relationship later in life.  Let's just say that chasing the dragon doesn't make someone a good partner.

 

 

Carbon (Forum Supporter)
Carbon (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/30/20 10:17 p.m.

It’s weird to hear that they helped with the pain, my sciatica (why I took the perk in the first place) bothered me the whole time. 

barefootskater
barefootskater SuperDork
4/30/20 10:22 p.m.

I've never tried the stuff, or anything like it for very personal reasons, but I do have a good opiate story. When I got my wisdom teeth out (17) whatever they knocked me out with was way too potent for me. On the drive home (I have no memory of this) I apparently had a conversation with my mother. 
"How are you feeling?"

"I'm fine, did they take my teeth yet?"

"Yes, you're all set. We're going home now."          

"Did they give me any drugs?"

"They have you a prescription for some oxycodon. I'm going to drop you off and go pick it up for you."

"Awesome, I can sell that at school. Some of the kids will pay like $20 a pill!"

Luckily I never needed it. And I didn't run in those crowds anyway. Folks say dumb E36 M3 when they're high. 
 

frenchyd
frenchyd PowerDork
4/30/20 10:25 p.m.

In reply to Carbon (Forum Supporter) :

It may not be oxycodone.  I was working up on the attic  walkway , stepped wrong and tumbled ten feet the the floor below.  Ripped open bloody head pain like you can't imagine.  I was 70 years old  and the EMT 's got there really quick  took BP temps pulse etc and called got authorization for Fentyal ?   Wow I mean in seconds pain gone and a warm rush all over me.  Yet I was clear,  lucid, and pain free.  My only negative reaction was sweat.  I mean a flood of sweat the bandages they put on me just floated off.  

A few months later my nephew died in his sleep from some street oxycodone laced with Fetenyal.

Great guy,  Ivy League graduate.  Very upper class, great paying job,  2 darling little girls,  on vacation,  on a lark, bought a $15 pill and wound up dead. His wife is still shattered.  Well off,  his life insurance was a very nice sum.  Paid off the mortgage, funded college education for the two girls, wife with a great job doesn't have to work but does to get out of the house.  
Oxycodone on the street is cheaper than getting it from a doctor. So is Fetenal and dozens of other prescription drugs.  In fact I think even with co-pays it's cheaper on the street 
   
 

 

Carbon (Forum Supporter)
Carbon (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/30/20 10:29 p.m.

Lol, its prescription from the pharmacy so I hope t/f it’s what it says it is on the bottle. 

TopNoodles
TopNoodles Reader
4/30/20 10:45 p.m.

Addiction could roughly be summed up as improper use of painkillers until your body adjusts in a way that not using them becomes more painful than the original problem (withdrawal).

Anything that distracts or numbs can be addictive, from alcohol to prescription drugs to Facebook.

Usually serious addiction starts in childhood when a child is sincerely unaware that other ways to resolve pain (or abuse) exist.

So if you're an adult not predisposed to addictive tendencies, you would be more likely to see painkillers for what they are. A temporary solution that's only useful until the injury is healed correctly.

I think most people find their first experience unpleasant in some way. But if it makes you forget the hurt, it seems like the better option at the time.

RealMiniNoMore (Forum Supporter)
RealMiniNoMore (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
4/30/20 10:55 p.m.

I've never had much pain relief from hydrocodone, or negative reactions, for that matter. But, I've had morphine in the hospital, once. Holy berk, that's some good E36 M3. Took away the pain, the cares, the everything. I was high as a kite. I can see why that's REALLY controlled in a hospital environment.

Cotton
Cotton PowerDork
4/30/20 10:57 p.m.

I shattered my wrist one time, so at the ER they gave me dilaudid.  I have a pretty high tolerance for pain and didn't know what it would do because in the past some pain meds just didn't work, but man this worked.  I can REALLY see why people could get hooked on that stuff.

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
4/30/20 11:04 p.m.

Have enough injuries when performing at a high enough level that other people's jobs depend upon it and you'll get fed and/or injected with anything to keep you on the field or court to blind you from the pain. When they stop working it's usually time for surgery. After surgery comes more painkillers and the isolation of being away from your teammates, the loss of adrenaline from competition, the release of endorphins has chemically been altered and you're alone with your thoughts, fears, insecurities and pain. 

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
5/1/20 7:23 a.m.
Mndsm said:

I can see how. For me, the come up is awesome. You feel a warmth wash over you and suddenly everything hurts less. The problem is, that feeling is very fleeting, and you're replaced with that nauseous sluggish feeling. Taking more can make that initial rush come back. 

 

For me, it really worked. For others, it may not. If I didn't have better self control, it could easily have gone sideways. I was having a lot of personal problems about the time I got hurt- it made the problems go away for a while, both physically and mentally. 

This.  In rehab I went from unable to move to doing four hours of pt a day in minutes.  They don't work the same for everyone though. The doctor started me on something else, perhaps Vicodin that didn't help at all and made me a bit sick. Without OxyContin I never would have gotten through therapy.  

Woody
Woody MegaDork
5/1/20 7:35 a.m.

In reply to Carbon (Forum Supporter) :

I've only taken a few in my lifetime. I do not like it at all.

I know what I want to say and I know what I want to do, but I can't say it and I can't do it. It's not enjoyable in any way. And I've had some big pain.

John Brown (Forum Supporter)
John Brown (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
5/1/20 7:55 a.m.

I had an abdominal tear (diastasis recti) two years ago requiring a very large mesh to be inserted like they do for some hernias. A week prior to the operation the doctor prescribed oxycodone for pain. Like the OP there was zero relief and only negative feelings. Being nauseous with an impaired abdomen is a treat.

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
5/1/20 8:08 a.m.

I'm also in the "not" camp.  I was given a prescription for oxycontin when I had a kidney stone attack a couple of years ago.  Taking it made me puke like crazy, severely constipated - and STILL IN PAIN from the kidney stone. All while stuck in a hotel room some 350 miles from home.  A second trip to the local ER a few days later netted me a different ER doc who basically said, "yeah... opioid pain killers won't work on kidney stone pain. You are better off with taking a big dose of ibuprofen." Something to keep in mind if you are subject to kidney stones.  During one ER visit, I was given toradol, which is a non-narcotic anti-inflammatory drug that works like intravenous ibuprofen.  That was amazing stuff and what I'll ask for if I'm ever forced to go to the ER again for kidney stones.

And on that note... I need to drink more water... 

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
5/1/20 8:09 a.m.

In reply to RealMiniNoMore (Forum Supporter) :

Morphine was really impressive. When I first got to the hospital with my collection of broken bones they set me up with my good friend the morphine machine .  I talked to it, we told jokes, and every so often it would give me a treat.  I swore I could see it go up my arm and give me a warm tingly feeling. By the time my mother and grandmother got up from Long Island to see me I was introducing them to Grimace, the big purple guy from McDonald's. I lost most of a week that I don't remember, and while it did it's job I was thankful that I never tried opioids growing up.  

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
5/1/20 8:17 a.m.

I love every opiate I've ever taken. They are a bit different when I'm actually in significant pain than when the pain is easing, but once I start I want to keep taking them regardless of pain. People like me get addicted easily. I have to be very careful and also realize than even after 3-5 days I'm going to have some withdrawal and to prepare for it. 

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
5/1/20 8:39 a.m.

I was given morphine once after an operation, and it was terrible - I was up all night with the weirdest, darkest hallucinations imaginable.  On the other hand I took percoset for a couple days after another procedure, and that was good stuff - I felt wonderful, and slept like a baby.  I guess every person is different in how they'll react to a particular drug.

noddaz
noddaz UltraDork
5/1/20 8:50 a.m.

It is funny how fast those will suck you in.  I have a bad disc between c6 and c7 in my neck.  By the time I was diagnosed I was in almost constant pain.  I used up a one month supply in about 20 days.  They were the only thing that would reduce the pain.  I was using any pain killers I could find in the house.  It was terrible.  In two months I did not think I could function without them.   Under the right conditions I think it can be very easy to get hooked on those.

Will
Will UltraDork
5/1/20 9:34 a.m.

Morphine is the best feeling I've experienced in my entire life. It didn't exactly stop the pain, but it made me stop caring about the pain. I can see how people get addicted to that.

The few times I've taken oxy, my brain's reaction has been "Hey, you know that one thing that makes you really sad? You're gonna think about that E36 M3 for about 8 hours."

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