Hows your windows 10 update going?

Put it on my machine earlier. Im really happy. Boot up takes nearly half an hour, the start button is non-functional, quickstart toolbar is also dead. Most functionality of the touch screen is also dead.

The coup de grace? It also killed my office suite.

It just doesn't get better then this! So, hows your Windows 10 upgrade going?

Mine was flawless..

I am waiting to see further how the privacy concerns are handled.

fritzsch wrote: I am waiting to see further how the privacy concerns are handled.

The way things are looking, IF I upgrade from 7, I'll be repartioning the hard drive at the same time, with two OS partitions and a data partition, and throwing Ubuntu at it for daily use.

Mine decided to get stuck after that download reservation piece of software got to about 5.5GB. With all the new fun complaints like the privacy issues, MS sharing your bandwidth if you want to or not, the driver install/uninstall shenanigans and all that, I'm not in a hurry to prod it to complete to upgrade.

How about the built in key logger feature that MS put in there for you? Or the 13 pages of opt-outs?

My Linux Mint installation is working just fine. I don't trust Microsoft with all of the opt-outs, cloud storage, and serving up ads. I have a Windows 7 partition for playing games that only run on Windows, but have no other use for Microsoft products.

just fine. My 5 year old laptop is running better than ever. The privacy issues are a little overblown I think. Just did a few minutes setting it up to lock down the extra BS and everything is good to go. No different than when I installed 7 for the first time.

I like privacy and gadgets. I'm really mixed on 10 right now. I bought a MacBook a few months ago, so my 7" tablet isn't my main machine anymore. I don't like how adjusting privacy features ties to functionality.

For example, a privacy setting lets apps request location, which also sends location to Microsoft. Cortana is a mess of privacy issues. It's a mix of local and cloud processing, and wants access to everything.

I'm not worried about Wi-Fi Sense or the peer to peer update system. Both of those features are easy to control. The p2p update system looks to reduce bandwidth consumption, not increase it.

The UI is mostly good, but there are significant outstanding issues. The new notification area doesn't allow selection of WiFi networks, but does allow enabling and disabling WiFi. Bluetooth network tethering seems to require digging deep into the old network control panel, and it isn't clear whether it is treating the network as metered.

OneDrive and Groove is just broken. Microsoft promoted selling a bunch of devices with 32GiB of storage by bundling free Office 365 subscriptions that include 1TiB of cloud storage. In Windows 10, the only way to access OneDrive outside of a browser is to sync your OneDrive to your device. That doesn't work.

All in all, this looks like a solid OS that is a couple of release candidates shy of readiness with an overly complex privacy system. I'm seeing too many rough edges, inconsistent design and app force closures.

If you don't need to be running the latest and greatest, I'd suggest waiting until this fall for the big update that should bring Windows 10 to the real RTM version.

This is pretty much all I care about: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/08/gamers-its-safe-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/

Zero plans to use Outlook, Onedrive, App store, Groove (Not sure what that is, just noticed it above), touch features, Edge, etc. The only time I'll see Cortana is if I'm playing Halo 1.

I tried a test build a few months ago on a fresh partition. The OS was pretty fast considering the hardware I was using. My initial reservation was that they wanted me to use my MS account to login. I opted out of that of course. Once inside I didn't mind it once I figured out how to do a lot of the things I would normally do in Control Panel lived.

I keep saying that I'm going to update one of my home computers. Its just too much effort though. I mainly use a Chromebook for browsing and have Ubuntu on my HTPC, and Mint on my home desktop.

The constant phoning home to MS also worries me, so I'm sticking with Linux/Chrome for the time being. (Yes, I realize Google could do all the same things with Chrome, but they don't have the 30 year history of being evil that MS does)

Well after a few hours, I've got it mostly working. Lots of registry cleaning and many reboots.

Interesting security mess. Not 100% certain of it all, but it looks seriously ugly and dangerous.

Problem has to do with where I installed the update from apparently. I live in dial-up hell. So I took the machine to a friends place that has FIOS, and updated it from there. The only thing my computer ever knew was the router password. I've been to this friends house before with this computer, and never had any problems.

Now, at my home, it's showing on my friends computer and my friends Onedrive on my PC. Whoa! This is seriously not good!

At no time did I ever log into my friends computer, her Onedrive account, or give Microsoft her account name or password. Seems like Microsoft automatically granted me access to her account simply because I was on her internet router.

Seriously disappointed with the "improved" start button and the starting up of installed programs. Non functional left click. Nothing happens when I left click. Right click and there it is. NOT! It's taken you to the Remove Programs section of the Control Panel. You click that program icon thinking you're going to fire it up and instead it delete it. Lovely.

Trying to find where programs are living is remarkably obscure. Once I found it, it's about 5 extra clicks to access them compared to Windows 8 or 8.1. Maybe there's a better way, or an upgrade coming. But right now, this is nasty. Swipe in from the right, select Tablet view, a few other steps that I can't recall, and then I get a skinny list of programs on the left of my screen.

One other very obnoxious gripe. They've apparently taken away the spinning circle that tells you that you're loading a program. Not always, but most of the time. Click or double click an icon, and nothing happens. But a few minutes later, with no warning or indication, and the program pops up.

Touch screen is still only semi functional.

MS Office is now functional, but awkwardly. It now wants me to reverify my users licence every time I access any Office program. Doesn't matter whether I select yes or no, it fails to verify but does fire off.

Weirdly right clicking anywhere on the desktop screen brings up an "open MS Word document" option. Which if you select it causes a fake document to drop on the desktop. Fake because it actually doesn't open Word, and fake because if you attempt to open the document it cannnot be opened with Word.

Can't say that I'm impressed with Windows 10 so far. So far I haven't seen anything that makes me think it really is better than 8.1.

I did the tech previews. No issues outside of having to do a manual video driver install in the earlier builds

foxtrapper wrote: Now, at my home, it's showing on my friends computer and my friends Onedrive on my PC. Whoa! This is seriously not good! At no time did I ever log into my friends computer, her Onedrive account, or give Microsoft her account name or password. Seems like Microsoft automatically granted me access to her account simply because I was on her internet router.

Wha?! Huh?!

Can you descend into the either file structure? If your friend had her Onedrive shared on her network, I could see the discovery happening, but you shouldn't be able to access either now that you're home. I would guess it's possible your computer doesn't know those resources are unavailable, and is keeping the icons visible. If you can access them now, then I don't know what's going on here.

foxtrapper wrote: Seriously disappointed with the "improved" start button and the starting up of installed programs. Non functional left click. Nothing happens when I left click. Right click and there it is. NOT! It's taken you to the Remove Programs section of the Control Panel. You click that program icon thinking you're going to fire it up and instead it delete it. Lovely.

This really smells of stuck key. I've tried a bunch of key combinations and can't find one to duplicate it. If you can get the on screen keyboard open, (the old-school ease of access one) it might show you a key down.

foxtrapper wrote: Trying to find where programs are living is remarkably obscure. Once I found it, it's about 5 extra clicks to access them compared to Windows 8 or 8.1. Maybe there's a better way, or an upgrade coming. But right now, this is nasty. Swipe in from the right, select Tablet view, a few other steps that I can't recall, and then I get a skinny list of programs on the left of my screen.

In desktop mode, you want the "All Apps" button in the lower left corner of the start menu. If it says "Back" there, you're already in All Apps. In tablet view, it's a bit of a mess, since the same back button will, depending on context either close the all apps menu or leave all apps for the quick access part of the start menu, and which menu you're in doesn't reset with the menu is hidden. Instead, look for the hamburger (three horizontal line) menu in the upper left corner.

foxtrapper wrote: Put it on my machine earlier. Im really happy. Boot up takes nearly half an hour, the start button is non-functional, quickstart toolbar is also dead. Most functionality of the touch screen is also dead. The coup de grace? It also killed my office suite. It just doesn't get better then this! So, hows your Windows 10 upgrade going?

Wait, let me guess. Microsoft has promised that THIS upgrade is the one you have been waiting for, the one that will fix all the problems and add lots of great features. I remember that promise starting with 3.3!

I pulled on old Macbook off the shelf for an intern yesterday and updated to the latest OS at no cost and with no problems and had him working away in minutes. Man I love Apple!

When are you people going to realize that if Microsoft gives you something for free it isn't in your best interest to take it?

I'll just leave this here:

http://boingboing.net/2015/08/03/windows-10-defaults-to-keylogg.html

I'll wait for the Tiny version of it to hit the torrents. TinyXP was awesome on my gaming laptop, and I just found out there is a Tiny7. When Tiny10 hits I'll let you know.

Mine works great and I like it. Still playing with the new toys and figuring everything out.

Still haven't received the notification i can get it yet. I have signed up, however. Guess i'm last in line for the rollout or something.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: When are you people going to realize that if Microsoft gives you something for free it isn't in your best interest to take it?

Why not? I've been using Microsoft products since at least 1990 and have been online as long. Never had any issues and neither has anyone I know who wasn't dumb enough to reply to Nigerians trying to give them a million dollars.

I pulled on old Macbook off the shelf for an intern yesterday and updated to the latest OS at no cost and with no problems and had him working away in minutes.

Sounds like Windows 10 for everyone I know and some of us need something more than a Facebook machine.

One guy I used to work to had that small apple box PC and he upgraded it to the newest OS and it was horrendously slow and crashed constantly. Meanwhile I was using all the newest software and had a vastly larger archive of games going back to the 80s of which I still play. Man I love Windows.

I'm still waiting to get it.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: When are you people going to realize that if Microsoft gives you something for free it isn't in your best interest to take it?

I have two choices: one- do nothing, and let the constant updates eventually kill my laptop. That's what happened last time. Or two- take it, and see what happens.

One choice will kill it- BTDT. The other may not. But if it does, I'm in the same position.

So then I move on to something different. Maybe Apple, maybe some other platform, who knows.

Why not try, then?

Still waiting. Apparently one redditor found out the hard way that all the pictures in your my images folder, no matter how deep they're buried, will be put on slideshow as a screensaver.

Haha. Now let me get this straight. Given the events documented throughout history regarding Windows releases, people are willingly choosing to trust their hardware to Microsoft's latest whimsy? I don't know if I should weep for the blatant stupidity and certain demise of mankind, or to admire the blind optimism that such a move entails.

1988RedT2 wrote: Haha. Now let me get this straight. Given the events documented throughout history regarding Windows releases, people are willingly choosing to trust their hardware to Microsoft's latest whimsy? I don't know if I should weep for the blatant stupidity and certain demise of mankind, or to admire the blind optimism that such a move entails.

Why? If you don't like it, go back to 8.1, 7, xp, or Ubuntu or whatever other OS suits your fancy.