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Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
9/16/15 2:18 p.m.
HiTempguy wrote:
Duke wrote: let's discuss just how annoying it is to manage Windoze printing at anything more complex than the most basic level
I don't think this is windoze fault at all. It usually has to do with a printer manufacturer FORCING you to use their proprietary bullE36 M3 software to print with rather than letting the office software handle it. Infuriates me as well

Huh? I've never had this happen, and i've had a printer or dozen in my time. Or maybe i've just never worked or printed in a way where this would happen?

pinchvalve
pinchvalve MegaDork
9/16/15 2:19 p.m.

To me this is a case of not reading the instructions. Apple never said that you could backup with iCloud...it's just a buffer that puts your photos into the cloud for 30 days so you can back them up however you want. With the cloud, you can see your photos on your iPhone, iPad, MacBook, Apple TV, Apple Watch and iPod. So cool!

To backup, you simply install iPhoto or Aperture on your Mac, log into your Apple account, agree to sync with the Cloud, put them into folders, upgrade to Photos, open all of your old iPhoto and Aperture libraries, export the photos to your desktop, import them into Photos, manually re-enter all of your meta data, re-rate all of your photos, and then save them as Photo libraries until Photos is superseded and you have to re-do all of this again. Simple.

Personally, I use Photos to import my photo stream, but I export everything as a JPG to an external hard drive. I hate committing to some program (Aperture, iPhoto, Lightroom or otherwise). Then all of your photos and work is trapped in some program that may someday be dead. If you have JPG and NEF files on a hard drive, then you can use whatever program of the day is around to manipulate them.TO me, it's easy because I am all Mac. My wife and kids iPhones are a total PITA. Apple (and I LOVE Apple) needs to fix this one.

mtn
mtn MegaDork
9/16/15 2:19 p.m.
Joe Gearin wrote: When I finally trade in my ahem......iPhone 3s (yes it still works) , I'll probably switch to an android or other non-Apple device. I don't use or need apps, I don't play video games, and I sure as Hell don't have an Apple sticker in my car window. What I need is a phone that enables me to check email, look up things on the interwebs and actually works as a telephone. (you know....to call people) Apple pisses me off that each time they come out with a new device, their charger changes--- so they get to nickel and dime you into a new cord. They also won't support any older devices....regardless if they still work or not. This disposable mindset irks me. I also visited an Apple store.....once....that was enough. I've never felt more out of place in any situation than I did there. It actually made me want to kill.

I kind of want apple to make a brand new 3s. I want it to have more memory, a faster processor, a better camera, and more screen size options. I don't want anything else to change. Better equipment. They had the software/usability down perfectly.

turboswede
turboswede MegaDork
9/16/15 2:21 p.m.
HiTempguy wrote:
Duke wrote: let's discuss just how annoying it is to manage Windoze printing at anything more complex than the most basic level
I don't think this is windoze fault at all. It usually has to do with a printer manufacturer FORCING you to use their proprietary bullE36 M3 software to print with rather than letting the office software handle it. Infuriates me as well

Nope. It has to do with how poorly Winblowz handles drivers in the general. For most network printers you can use generic HP LaserJet drivers, but for some you have to load the drivers for each version of winbloze onto the server when setting up the printer (including 32 and 64-bit) and then you get to update those drivers whenever something changes.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
9/16/15 2:24 p.m.
Joe Gearin wrote: Apple pisses me off that each time they come out with a new device, their charger changes--- so they get to nickel and dime you into a new cord.

For many years (before the iPhone 5) they were also the only phone manufacturer not using the latest miniature USB connector. You could charge or connect to any phone in the world with the same cord/charger...except an iPhone.

turboswede
turboswede MegaDork
9/16/15 2:26 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
Brokeback wrote: Didn't read this all, but try this: When you connect your iPhone via USB to the computer, make sure the phone screen is unlocked and tell it to trust your computer when the message pops up on it. Then, you can pull the phone's memory up in windows explorer and get photos off that way. However, you will begin cursing at Apple's random folder name designations and spend 10 minutes trying to figure out which folder it is in. At least that's how it usually goes for me
We have a winner. After doing this it then re-sync'd and I can access my pics!!!! A++ to the GRM community for helping out. F- to apple for making something that shouldn't have even needed thinking about a three hour odyssey

Before you spend too much time cursing Apple, understand this is a security feature to protect you from having your pictures stolen and it took me all of a minute to figure this out the first time I went to backup pictures off an iPhone 4S with the latest version of iOS loaded on it.

Honestly, some people get so emotionally involved in a rather simple piece of code that it seems like you can't see the forest for the trees. Take a breath, take a step back, breathe and try to look at the problem logically. Worst case, Google can help.

turboswede
turboswede MegaDork
9/16/15 2:28 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote:
Joe Gearin wrote: Apple pisses me off that each time they come out with a new device, their charger changes--- so they get to nickel and dime you into a new cord.
For many years (before the iPhone 5) they were also the only phone manufacturer not using the latest miniature USB connector. You could charge or connect to any phone in the world with the same cord/charger...except an iPhone.

Yeah, I agree that's annoying. In Europe they are forced to provide a Micro-USB adapter for free as part of an EU ruling. Luckily Bluetooth is getting good enough that the connector stuff is becoming less of an issue, still pretty bad form from them, but not unexpected.

turboswede
turboswede MegaDork
9/16/15 2:29 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote:
HiTempguy wrote:
Duke wrote: let's discuss just how annoying it is to manage Windoze printing at anything more complex than the most basic level
I don't think this is windoze fault at all. It usually has to do with a printer manufacturer FORCING you to use their proprietary bullE36 M3 software to print with rather than letting the office software handle it. Infuriates me as well
Huh? I've never had this happen, and i've had a printer or dozen in my time. Or maybe i've just never worked or printed in a way where this would happen?

Helps to have good Server admins that understand how to manage printers in a networked environment.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
9/16/15 2:29 p.m.

Possibly the dumbest thing about Windows is the swap space management. By default, it will use your swap file even if you have over 10GB of RAM free, slowing the computer for no good reason whatsoever. I argued with a guy who actually works at Microsoft about this and he said that it was done to prevent a sudden change in performance at all costs...including slowing the computer at all times for no reason. Which is kind of like having your car drag its brakes all the time so that towing a boat won't feel too different.

I don't know if it's been fixed in Win8/10 but it's like this up to at least Win7.

turboswede
turboswede MegaDork
9/16/15 2:35 p.m.
Joe Gearin wrote: When I finally trade in my ahem......iPhone 3s (yes it still works) , I'll probably switch to an android or other non-Apple device. I don't use or need apps, I don't play video games, and I sure as Hell don't have an Apple sticker in my car window. What I need is a phone that enables me to check email, look up things on the interwebs and actually works as a telephone. (you know....to call people) Apple pisses me off that each time they come out with a new device, their charger changes--- so they get to nickel and dime you into a new cord. They also won't support any older devices....regardless if they still work or not. This disposable mindset irks me. I also visited an Apple store.....once....that was enough. I've never felt more out of place in any situation than I did there. It actually made me want to kill.

Wanna have fun? Download an app called "camber" and realize that you can now check or your camber using the side of your phone and a straight edge.

There's also the OBD2 apps and Harry's LapTimer and the ability to take video with telemetry using your phone.

Or the Apps that allow you to follow your favorite events via live timing and scoring apps in a format that is legible (RaceMonitor, LeMans, etc).

So yeah, "APPS" are berkeleying useless and only involve candy crush.

turboswede
turboswede MegaDork
9/16/15 2:37 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: Possibly the dumbest thing about Windows is the swap space management. By default, it will use your swap file even if you have over 10GB of RAM free, slowing the computer for no good reason whatsoever. I argued with a guy who actually works at Microsoft about this and he said that it was done to prevent a sudden change in performance at all costs...including slowing the computer at all times for no reason. Which is kind of like having your car drag its brakes all the time so that towing a boat won't feel too different. I don't know if it's been fixed in Win8/10 but it's like this up to at least Win7.

Yup. I don't wanna even get into "SpeedBoost" in Win 7 where you use removable media (Like a USB stick or SD Card). Um, yeah I've got 32GB of RAM, I think the 8GB flash drive isn't really going to help much here.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
9/16/15 2:40 p.m.

I disabled swapping entirely on my gaming PC immediately to put an end to that crap. The speed difference is huge. I didn't know Win7's start menu wasn't instantaneous until I saw it run on other computers.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
9/16/15 2:46 p.m.
turboswede wrote:
Swank Force One wrote:
HiTempguy wrote:
Duke wrote: let's discuss just how annoying it is to manage Windoze printing at anything more complex than the most basic level
I don't think this is windoze fault at all. It usually has to do with a printer manufacturer FORCING you to use their proprietary bullE36 M3 software to print with rather than letting the office software handle it. Infuriates me as well
Huh? I've never had this happen, and i've had a printer or dozen in my time. Or maybe i've just never worked or printed in a way where this would happen?
Helps to have good Server admins that understand how to manage printers in a networked environment.

Probably right. They have to be good here.

I haven't had an issues at home either. The worst issues i've had with my printers have been hardware related. Now i just count on replacing it every year.

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
9/16/15 3:07 p.m.
turboswede wrote:
Joe Gearin wrote: When I finally trade in my ahem......iPhone 3s (yes it still works) , I'll probably switch to an android or other non-Apple device. I don't use or need apps, I don't play video games, and I sure as Hell don't have an Apple sticker in my car window. What I need is a phone that enables me to check email, look up things on the interwebs and actually works as a telephone. (you know....to call people) Apple pisses me off that each time they come out with a new device, their charger changes--- so they get to nickel and dime you into a new cord. They also won't support any older devices....regardless if they still work or not. This disposable mindset irks me. I also visited an Apple store.....once....that was enough. I've never felt more out of place in any situation than I did there. It actually made me want to kill.
Wanna have fun? Download an app called "camber" and realize that you can now check or your camber using the side of your phone and a straight edge. There's also the OBD2 apps and Harry's LapTimer and the ability to take video with telemetry using your phone. Or the Apps that allow you to follow your favorite events via live timing and scoring apps in a format that is legible (RaceMonitor, LeMans, etc). So yeah, "APPS" are berkeleying useless and only involve candy crush.

I never said apps were "useless", I just said I don't use, or need them. This includes the examples you listed.

Slippery
Slippery Dork
9/16/15 3:15 p.m.
Joe Gearin wrote: ... Apple pisses me off that each time they come out with a new device, their charger changes--- so they get to nickel and dime you into a new cord.

Two different cords/connectors in 8 years is not bad at all ... And the latest one that you can plug in either way is a worthwile upgrade to me.

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
9/16/15 4:10 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: I disabled swapping entirely on my gaming PC immediately to put an end to that crap. The speed difference is huge. I didn't know Win7's start menu wasn't instantaneous until I saw it run on other computers.

Probably also the reason why a solid state drive makes so much of a difference!

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
9/16/15 4:11 p.m.

Of note for the original issue. There is a Windows application called iTools which lets you access iPad / iPhone files in a more "traditional" manner.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
9/16/15 4:12 p.m.
aircooled wrote:
GameboyRMH wrote: I disabled swapping entirely on my gaming PC immediately to put an end to that crap. The speed difference is huge. I didn't know Win7's start menu wasn't instantaneous until I saw it run on other computers.
Probably also the reason why a solid state drive makes so much of a difference!

That's a part of it, yes, but a relatively small part. It should be NO part.

NGTD
NGTD UltraDork
9/16/15 7:01 p.m.

Just sitting here typing on my BlackBerry!

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 PowerDork
9/16/15 7:14 p.m.

ITunes is a total clusterberkeley. That is all.

Lesley
Lesley PowerDork
9/16/15 8:10 p.m.

Getting photos off an iPhone 5s is pretty simple. Connect it to computer, use iPhoto, or whatever your photo browser happens to be to import them, and voila! Photos.

turboswede
turboswede MegaDork
9/16/15 8:25 p.m.
1988RedT2 wrote: ITunes is a total clusterberkeley. That is all.

Mostly due to Windows. I don't use it outside of the appstore on the phone since I don't listen to much music and only care about pictures and I can get those outside of iTunes.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler SuperDork
9/16/15 8:42 p.m.
aircooled wrote:
GameboyRMH wrote: I disabled swapping entirely on my gaming PC immediately to put an end to that crap. The speed difference is huge. I didn't know Win7's start menu wasn't instantaneous until I saw it run on other computers.
Probably also the reason why a solid state drive makes so much of a difference!

Solid state drives are the best thing to happen to PCs since the GPU came along.

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle HalfDork
9/16/15 8:59 p.m.

In reply to mtn:

Try Whatsapp for group messaging.

Everyone needs the app, but it's really good. $1/year and worth every penny

jstand
jstand HalfDork
9/16/15 9:27 p.m.

You can also commit blasphemy and use google photos to allow you to access and download photos anywhere.

I turned off cellular data for it since it was chewing up a lot, but otherwise seems to work fine now that it only syncs on wifi.

I know, I'm now their slave, but bondage can make some things easier.

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