84FSP
UberDork
3/1/23 8:45 a.m.
I like the fake camera ideas and the traffic sign could probably be bought under $50.d
My neighborhood issue is that stop signs are apparently mere suggestions. Folks blow threw the stop sign 90' right at 35. I think I could put down a very speed hump in a few hrs after dark with help from the torch attachment on a propane tank. All of my neighbors would turn a blind eye to it as they have the same concern with tons of little ones running in the otherwise quiet cul-de-sac.
Been working with my HOA trying to figure out similar.
The push is that there is little that we can do aside from shaming the speeders. We cant put up signs, they have to be done my county, bumps/humps ditto, cops dont have resources to care to patrol, so it is what it is. going to be quite awhile before my kids are allowed to ride bikes or anything because of the aholes in the back of the neighborhood that impatiently zip through, usually in a lifted jeep or such. I've actually had to dive off the roadway with a stroller to avoid getting hit because they were texting or something as well.
Good points, everyone. I know I'm yelling at a cloud with this issue, but I wanted to vent. Hey, I speed too, but not where people live.
Maybe I should put up a sign.
At 25 mph it takes you 25 sec. to travel 900 feet.
At 35 mph you save 8 seconds.
At 45 you save 17 seconds.
It's certainly a minority that speeds, but it's usually a soccer mom in a new Tahoe.
SV reX
MegaDork
3/1/23 10:11 a.m.
How about rumble strips?
They seem pretty effective at getting people to lift, because they think their car is exploding.
Stage a fake car wreck on the side of the road. Everyone will slow down to look.
Unfortunately, I don't have anything serious to add. I kind of like the rumble strip idea, but it's likely to need government involvement.
Don't do this.
Make a child sized dummy. Attach a 100lb. test fishing line. Drag it out in front of speeders. Let them connect. Let them think they just killed a kid. When they stop E36 M3ting themselves , and get out, pick up the dummy. Tell them it's just a dummy. Then ask them "What it it was a REAL kid?"
Don't do this.
I've had really good luck with rolling a basketball in front of the offenders. They always assume there is a kid following it.
Buy an old hooptie and park it in the street. Check your local laws. In SC street parking is allowed on residential streets as long as the car is all the way in the street.
In our neighborhood, the city put up a sign that flashes your speed as your going down the long hill, any thing over the posted limit it flashes your actual speed, if you're more than 10 over it really flashes and a row of lights around the perimeter of the sign come on, making it look like it's taking a picture. It's all psychological because it doesn't do anything except flash, but it sure works to slow people down, maybe your town could do something like this?
I have a similar problem.
I live on a quiet residential street between too points of interest. The local sports ball stadium and a high school. A mile away from me, near the stadium our road goes from two lanes to six.
Traffic is crazy game day. Folks going sixty in a twenty five, four or five wide down a two lane road. I'm not complaining about that. The stadium was here long before I was.
What gets me, is on my way to work at 6 am Tuesday morning and getting passed on the right, doing 29 in a 25 zone, by some ahole going 65mph. It's pretty regular to hear and see people doing twice or three times the speed limit.
I've talked to the alderman, he says I can rent a sign like Mini Dave described. Some folks down the road paid the money, didn't seem to make a difference.
I have never seen a single car pulled over, by a police officer, on my road. I've lived here 12ish years.
Despite appearances and the law, I've accepted that I live on a main road. And people suck. Nothing I can do.
Purple Frog (Forum Supporter) said:
We have a 25 mph limit through our semi-rural neighborhood. Most homes are on acreage and set back for the road. MS. Frog was the HOA president. Folks keep screaming that "everybody is speeding" to get home. We ran some demonstration tests. With cars driving by at 25 mph while folks sat on their front porches. The spectators swore all the cars were speeding. They weren't.
In some situations 25 looks fast, even though it isn't. Just saying. YMMV
I have been screamed at to slow down when driving at 10mph.
MadScientistMatt said:
Stage a fake car wreck on the side of the road. Everyone will slow down to look.
You're right and the fact this would work is annoying.
A neighbor's boyfriend was speeding through the neighborhood and running stop signs. I asked my neighbor to talk to him, and she yelled at me. I talked to him directly, and he was an a-hole. I called the police several times, and they ignored me. I had video proof, but could not get a call back from the useless Po Po. I put up a sign indicating children crossing, and he stole it. I had no choice, the next time he ran the stop sign I emptied a full magazine of 40cal into his crappy truck, then pushed it and his bloody corpse into the lake. OK, not really, they broke up and he was gone. Moral of the story, no one cares and if you take the law into your own hands, you'll just get in trouble.
In reply to pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) :
That's it. Nobody cares.
We had a neighborhood kid in a really nice Fox body Mustang that would get cooking on our street. I appreciate the car and the youth energy but I couldn't take it and talked to the speed limit cop in our city and he stopped by his house and told the kid to ease up. And he did. If I knew the kid or family I'd ask myself.
Now for the other 50 knuckleheads and the 5 knuckleheads that toss cans out their window onto my lawn. (although I distinctly remember my buddy telling me to toss that empty beer bottle out the window so we had no evidence if we got pulled over)
When I was a kid, my dad kept a 2x4 behind the bushes. Once when he heard someone hauling from up the street, he slid it across the road and they slammed on the brakes and almost slid in the ditch. Needless to say, words flew, guy drove away. Dad stopped doing it when he realized the car could have ended up in the front of our house. It was strange too because our street had a rise in it and cars would bottom out so bad there were grooves in the asphalt
I have lived in my house for 50 years. The street is about 17-1800 ft long and straight. There are houses on one side and a high school on the other. The speed limit was 20 mph for many years because, well school zone. A few years ago the town raised it to 25 to match all the other streets in town while keeping the 20 mph "school zone" limits around the grade schools. On a summer night I can hear the cars racing down my street as all hours of the night with a few doing it during the day. The towns police are to short handed to do a radar check and they don't do photo radar so I have to live with the 40-60 mph speeders.
About 3 years ago one night I was surfing the internet and I heard a car coming down the street at high speed, in fact as he passed, two others followed. They were headed south. Well my street ends in a "T" with a stone wall past the T. The first driver must have been new to the area as he didn't know about how the road ended. He hit the brakes but to late to not hit the wall. I heard the boom and figured that didn't end well. I got up and went outside and looked south. The end of the street was about 500 ft away. I saw 3 cars, one steaming, about 8-9 people running around with a couple of girls screaming. Then before I know it everyone got in the two remaining cars and left! The police came and I decided to go back home and go to bed.
Go dribble gasoline across the street every night for a while. It will dissolve the asphalt and eventually you will have a speed dip. Do it in front of your neighbors' house. Wear all black.
I will say this... if police and speeding tickets worked, we wouldn't have any more speeding tickets. My commute to work is about 5 miles on a highway that slows down to 55 through town. Every day, people fly through at 75-80 and there are at least two state police in each direction with someone pulled over giving tickets. The rest of the traffic just whizzes by. It's been like this for the 8 years I've had this job.
If a cop sits on that street every day for a month and tickets every speeder, the first day they stop patrolling it, it will be back to what it was.
The real answer is make driving a privilege again. Yes, we say it's a privilege, but basically if you have a pulse and know where "D" is on the shifter, you get a license. Education, testing, re-certs every X years.
Mr_Asa
UltimaDork
3/3/23 11:14 a.m.
Toyman! said:
I've had really good luck with rolling a basketball in front of the offenders. They always assume there is a kid following it.
Buy an old hooptie and park it in the street. Check your local laws. In SC street parking is allowed on residential streets as long as the car is all the way in the street.
One of my neighbors claims he used to do this. One time that the driver didn't see it the ball rolled in just the right way to hit one of the wheels dead on. Ball popped (loudly) and the truck's front end got launched a foot into the air on that corner.
He may have been full of it, but I'd love to see it happen.
Beer Baron said:
People generally drive as fast as they feel is comfortable in the environment. Posted speed limits don't do much to change this.
What slows people down is making the space feel more constricted:
the neighborhood I am in has narrow streets. There is parking on both sides, but when there are cars on both shoulders, you cannot really get two cars to pass side by side. You can, but both drivers need to be at least above average and considerate of the other. Most people here will slow and pull over into an open spot to let another car pass rather than trying to squeeze by.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:
I will say this... if police and speeding tickets worked, we wouldn't have any more speeding tickets. My commute to work is about 5 miles on a highway that slows down to 55 through town. Every day, people fly through at 75-80 and there are at least two state police in each direction with someone pulled over giving tickets. The rest of the traffic just whizzes by. It's been like this for the 8 years I've had this job.
If a cop sits on that street every day for a month and tickets every speeder, the first day they stop patrolling it, it will be back to what it was.
The real answer is make driving a privilege again. Yes, we say it's a privilege, but basically if you have a pulse and know where "D" is on the shifter, you get a license. Education, testing, re-certs every X years.
I have been telling the wife for years that EVERYBODY should have to re-test both the written and behind the wheel driver's test every time you renew your driver's license.
The only other solution is for all new cars to have nanny over rides that won't let you drive faster than the posted limit. Kind of like a self driving nanny mode. Maybe have it verbally nag you if you try to over ride it, say when you need to speed up to pass a slow vehicle.
You'll have to get a neighborhood group together and start talking to the appropriate organization in your locale.
We can see the middle school playground from our driveway. And we live on the corner of a 4 way stop. It's very common to see people SPEED up through the 4 way stop. We are working on getting some of those monster speed humps put on all 4 streets leading up to the stop signs.
We don't even have kids but I don't want to see one get injured or killed.
In reply to MadScientistMatt :
Oh goodness, that unlocked a memory!
My grandpa went somewhere when it was daylight and came back after dark.
Me and my friend somehow got the idea to stage the remains of a car wreck in front of the house. We got a tire and worked about 30 minutes spinning the tire to make a skid mark. We sprayed red paint on paper towels. Some other stuff I can't remember.
The next morning at breakfast he was talking about the wreck in front of the house. I busted out laughing and told him. We were like 12. I kinda wonder how much he had to drink to think that was real.
Dammit. I just realized that he trolled us. RIP grandpa!