Racer1ab wrote: Ah...here comes the, "I can drive mah Camaro all winter without needin' snow tires, you poosay!" bit. Can you? Maybe. Is it much easier and more fun with snows? You bet your ass it is.
that's just silly.. the Camaro is too drafty and cold to drive in the winter... that's why i have the GTP and the 3/4 ton 4X4 truck- each of which only has one set of tires..
novaderrik wrote:mndsm wrote:why do you need two sets of tires? they make these things called "all season radials" these days... you should look into them..mtn wrote:As a member of the Frozen North club- berkeley this weather. I hate needing two sets of tires for every damn car I own and not knowing what's going to destroy it next. Gimme Florida weather any day.cwh wrote: Ya'll are making Florida sound better and better. 6% sales tax, no tax on cars, smooth if boring roads, low tax rates on houses, beaches and really good fishing. OK, gov services suck, there can be language problems not found in the Frozen Northland, but we get year round racing and have some killer tracks. And a really cool magazine is up the road.Sorry, your weather sucks. Yes, I would rather have Illinois weather than Florida weather.
also called no-season, because they don't do anything well 
The wife introduced me to a friend of hers and her family that she had met through a local parenting group. They were a military family and moved frequently. The husband, having been told I was a gear head, showed me their fleet.
First I was given a tour of their Audi S6 Avant. Then he pointed out the snow tires that were hanging on the wall explaining that he primarily drives that one in the winter since it has abs.
Then he showed me his '85 Porsche 911 and it's set of snows.
With no Rallycross venues within a reasonable distance I view snow tires as a waste of money.
The_Jed wrote: With no Rallycross venues within a reasonable distance I view snow tires as a waste of money.
You say that until you drive a lowered Miata year round.
I just spent the last two weeks in the Midwest. (IL and WI) It was the hottest, most humid weather I've experienced all Summer, which isn't that rare up there. The nastiest heat I've had to deal with within the last few years has been up North. AND you have that lovely 9 month grey period known as Winter. (Sun? what sun? Oh, that bright spot in the clouds....)
That said, I miss the Midwest. Yeah, the roads are in mind-bogglingly bad shape, the politics are the most corrupt in the country, and for a good portion of the year, the weather blows.
However, the nicest people in the U.S live in the Midwest. The education level is MUCH higher than it is here in FL, and I think the Northern IL, Southern WI landscape is beautiful--- best soil in the U.S and it shows. Everything is lush and green. I'm also a sports fan, and Chicago is tough to beat as a fun sports town.
To each his own.......someday I'll be a snowbird, and Winter in FL and Summer in the Midwest.
And the food choices in IL and Chicago absolutely rock.
Joe Gearin wrote: I just spent the last two weeks in the Midwest. (IL and WI) It was the hottest, most humid weather I've experienced all Summer, which isn't that rare up there. The nastiest heat I've had to deal with within the last few years has been up North. AND you have that lovely 9 month grey period known as Winter. (Sun? what sun? Oh, that bright spot in the clouds....) That said, I miss the Midwest. Yeah, the roads are in mind-bogglingly bad shape, the politics are the most corrupt in the country, and for a good portion of the year, the weather blows. However, the nicest people in the U.S live in the Midwest. The education level is MUCH higher than it is here in FL, and I think the Northern IL, Southern WI landscape is beautiful--- best soil in the U.S and it shows. Everything is lush and green. I'm also a sports fan, and Chicago is tough to beat as a fun sports town. To each his own.......someday I'll be a snowbird, and Winter in FL and Summer in the Midwest. And the food choices in IL and Chicago absolutely rock.
The above reasons and family are what keep me here.
I live near Chicago and have my whole life. I think Chicago & IL politics suck as well. Since I spend many weekends in S. WI or N. IL I do plan on relocating to S. WI. I don't like winter but I hate hot humid weather and don't tell me it's worse up here it isn't. I lived in Houston for 6 weeks and other then going outside to drive to work and then back to the motel I didn't go outside. To dam hot & humid. I will say that winters in the south are nicer and I may end up spending some time down there in the winter but I will spend most of the year right here. I have more race tracks within 1 days drive then anywhere in the country!
Heartland Park, Brainerd, Road America, Blackhawk Farms, Gingerman, Grattan, Waterford Hills, Mid Ohio, Nelson Ledges, Mid America, Autobahn CC, and Putman Park. I may even missed one or two.
In reply to Joe Gearin:
To be honest, in the Midwest its closer to 9 months of warm followed by about 2 months of "meh, this is a bit cool" with a dose of "OMG who left the freezer open" sandwiched in the middle
yamaha wrote: In reply to Joe Gearin: To be honest, in the Midwest its closer to 9 months of warm followed by about 2 months of "meh, this is a bit cool" with a dose of "OMG who left the freezer open" sandwiched in the middle
you forgot the 3 weeks of "way too hot with 114% humidity" that falls somewhere in the middle of the 9 months of warm...
or is that only a central MN thing?
In reply to novaderrik:
Even sandwiched between two huge bodies of water to smooth things out, Michigan gets that. A few weeks of 90+ w/ high humidity and a week or three of "its so berkin cold the pipes in the basement of the STEAM HEATED building I live in froze" below zero daytime temperatures windy bullE36 M3.
In reply to Kenny_McCormic:
Same here in Detroit's little brother(Toledo).
It's much nicer having 4 normal seasons than two(coughcaliforniacoughfloridacough).
Joe Gearin wrote: And the food choices in IL and Chicago absolutely rock.
Portillo's Beef, Connies Pizza, Patio Chicken & Ribs............too bad I am cutting back with more salads, veggies, and carrot juice.
In reply to Datsun310Guy:
I spy peppers, tomato, and cabbage in your post. I see no issue.
EDIT: Although I must admit, I am part of the faction that thinks real Chicago pizza is Chicago style thin crust.
In reply to mtn:
You sir, are alright in my book.......I loathe deep dish
yamaha wrote: In reply to mtn: You sir, are alright in my book.......I loathe deep dish
I don't hate it... Actually, I like it quite a bit. It just is not pizza. Pizza should not be eaten with a knife and fork. Deep Dish is a casserole.
mtn wrote:yamaha wrote: In reply to mtn: You sir, are alright in my book.......I loathe deep dishI don't hate it... Actually, I like it quite a bit. It just is not pizza. Pizza should not be eaten with a knife and fork. Deep Dish is a casserole.
you eat deep dish pizza with a knife and fork?
In reply to novaderrik:
Sometimes you have to. If its cooked right, the cheese oozes all over the place. Sometimes it's not possible to eat deep dish without a knife and fork.
Oh and I love me some deep dish. I love thin crust too, deep dish is an "every once in a while" type thing.
novaderrik wrote:mtn wrote:you eat deep dish pizza with a knife and fork?yamaha wrote: In reply to mtn: You sir, are alright in my book.......I loathe deep dishI don't hate it... Actually, I like it quite a bit. It just is not pizza. Pizza should not be eaten with a knife and fork. Deep Dish is a casserole.
Chicago style deep dish. Done right, it is about as easy to eat with your hands as lasagna.
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