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fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 SuperDork
4/23/12 11:02 p.m.

Nothing to do with cars, but tonight I brought home something I've been wanting for a very long time. But I will, if you'll indulge me, tell in the form of an anecdote.

Several years ago I popped on craigslist and looked in electronics. I'd been trying to stay away. As a recovering vintage stereo hoarder, I'm not supposed to look there. But, there they were. First post, so they had just gone up. It said "Acoustic Research Speakers". They were, in fact, AR LST2s. They were in, well, horrible condition. One midrange dead and the cabinets were a mess. Two of the six grills had significant water damage. But they were really cheap. I was on them like the addict I am. It took a lot of work, but today those LST2s sit in my living room. The look and sound phenomenal. I became an AR junkie in a big way. But I told myself "no more speakers- unless you find a pair of AR9s".

The 9s are considered by more than a few people to be among the finest speakers ever made. They're big. Really big. Like more than four feet tall, and 120 lbs. each. Two 12" woofers mounted on the side and designed to work with your wall, rather than have your wall work against them. A revolutionary design to be sure. Difficult to power, difficult to place, but oh so nice when it is all right.

You can see where this is going. Me, late night, can't sleep. I look on ebay as I so often do for a pair of AR9s. They have to be local. They rarely are available for shipping and when they are, it costs a fortune. Nothing. I decide to search "AR9 site:craigslist.org" just to see what they're going for. Hum. There's a pair of 9LS. They're the speaker that replaced the original 9. Not quite the same, but very, very close. Man, I'd settle for that. No pics, and sound very rough. Just the kind of pair I'd like to find. Get a good price and fix them up. Oh, crap! They're here in Denver!

I waited until the next evening to email the seller, sure that they would be gone. But his price was high for LSs. They're nice, but don't get the money the original 9s command. Shoot. They're still available. Okay. I'll look. But I'm not paying that much for LSs. Especially rough ones. Tonight, I went to look.

Met the seller, very nice guy. He's sitting outside his garage waiting for me, just on time. I walk in the garage, and what do I see? No, those aren't AR9LSs. Those are the original Teledyne Acoustic Research AR9: the greatest speaker in the wooooorrrrlllllddddd!!!!!

I manage to hide my excitement, but I know those are coming home with me. But, man. They are in tough shape. Both tweeters blown. One mid dome partially pushed in. The cabinets look like they've seen Armageddon, and almost survived. There is a special place in Hell for people who put plants on speakers. A bad place.

The seller was unaware that the tweeters were toast. I pointed out the other areas of concern, including the tops that will never come back with any amount of sanding and oiling. But we had a great time. He has a lot of neat gear that he has found where I usually find my gear- the thrift store. He is very honest about the 9s. He found them at a thrift store for a lot less than they are worth. No problem. I have found and flipped my share of thrift store deals. I honestly had a fine time hanging out with him. I checked out his speakers, he checked out my E Stock MR2.

Okay. Deal time. I'm going in hard. I offer him $100 less than he's asking. Oh man. Hope he's not one of those guys who hates offers. I have visions of him saying "get the hell out of my garage" and me saying "Okay, Okay!! I'll pay double!!" But he immediately says "sounds good!". Shoot. Probably could have gotten them for less. But I really and honestly don't care. I got them for what I thought they were worth in that shape.

Then I look over at the MR2. Uh. These things are more than four feet tall and weight 120 lbs. each. The MR2 is good, but not that good. So the seller offers to drive them over to my house in his truck!!! Now that's the kind of deal I like. What a great night.

Oooohhhh yeah. Was my wife ever excited to see two HUGE, ugly boxes in the house when she got home. Yeah. Not so good. But she didn't leave me. Just said "they're going in the basement!" I'll talk her into letting them upstairs after I clean them up.

I'm ecstatic! I've wanted these for years! I can't wait to spend countless hours and untold dollars getting them up to snuff! They're going to be awesome!

Take care,

Ed

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 SuperDork
4/23/12 11:12 p.m.

Wow. That was long. Deserves at least a pic....

Yeah. Bad cell phone pic. I told my wife I wouldn't buy any speakers bigger than our daughter. Hey, made it with three inches to spare!

MG Bryan
MG Bryan SuperDork
4/23/12 11:22 p.m.

I don't know anything about speakers, but your excitement is contagious. Buying things from cool sellers always makes handing over your money feel better, too.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/23/12 11:37 p.m.

I remember that my dad had Acoustic Research speakers back in the day. You know, I'm not sure if he even still has them. Good score.

ransom
ransom Dork
4/23/12 11:58 p.m.

That's awesome! Congrats!

It's also an excellent reminder to us all that CL is a danger for more than just project cars or car parts... I could wind up with another guitar or some nifty cast iron thing in the blink of an eye if I'm not careful. I just hope I get to buy whatever it is from someone as cool as your seller. Or at least sane and punctual.

gamby
gamby PowerDork
4/24/12 12:00 a.m.
MG Bryan wrote: I don't know anything about speakers, but your excitement is contagious. Buying things from cool sellers always makes handing over your money feel better, too.

this

I love stories like this.

Luke
Luke UberDork
4/24/12 12:27 a.m.

^That.

It's such a cool, relatable feeling .

I, for one, would also be interested in seeing what goes into a speaker refurbish, if you get around to taking any photos of the process.

wrek496
wrek496 New Reader
4/24/12 4:11 a.m.

Home stereo speakers should be so big that they're like furniture. To hell with tiny bookshelf speakers and powered subs!

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 SuperDork
4/24/12 6:31 a.m.

First, let me say that your story is great! Very entertaining, and I'm sure most if not all of us can relate.

Years ago, a friend gave me a pair of AR-4's that look fairly rough, but sound fine. They live out in the attached garage hooked up to an old Technics integrated and a tuner, and they see action from time to time when I'm working on one of the daily drivers. I never thought that they might actually be worth anything, but I think they date back to the mid-1960's, and I saw a nice pair of AR-3's on ebay just now for $510. and still hadn't met the reserve. Hmmm.

The neatest thing about the AR-4's is the labels on the back which have the actual inked signature of the persons who tested and inspected them! Something you just don't see today.

LopRacer
LopRacer Reader
4/24/12 6:52 a.m.

Nice score, it's always a pleasure to wait and search and finally find that thing you aways wanted at a price you are willing to pay

DrBoost
DrBoost UberDork
4/24/12 7:18 a.m.

I've always loved AR's. Now I'm going to search for some 9's.

16vCorey
16vCorey UberDork
4/24/12 7:34 a.m.
Luke wrote: ^That. It's such a cool, relatable feeling . I, for one, would also be interested in seeing what goes into a speaker refurbish, if you get around to taking any photos of the process.

I agree. You should definitely post a build page on refurbishing these!

MG Bryan
MG Bryan SuperDork
4/24/12 7:36 a.m.
16vCorey wrote:
Luke wrote: ^That. It's such a cool, relatable feeling . I, for one, would also be interested in seeing what goes into a speaker refurbish, if you get around to taking any photos of the process.
I agree. You should definitely post a build page on refurbishing these!

If possible, I think most of us would love another thread in the vein of Woody's Dirty 911.

RossD
RossD UltraDork
4/24/12 7:53 a.m.

Great write up and great score!

I am currently on a guitar tube amp kick. Your luck finding what you were looking has solidified my wanting of a vintage Fender Tube amp for cheap. Now I must find the deal!

stuart in mn
stuart in mn UberDork
4/24/12 8:21 a.m.

I picked up a set of AR-4x bookshelf speakers back in college, they still sound great 35 years later.

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 SuperDork
4/24/12 8:47 a.m.

Thanks guys!

I'll post a few pics and some of my "secrets". In the dark, cell phone pic you can see that large white area. Not sure if it's a scrape or just badly dried out. Well, I hit it with my secret weapon last night. This is literally two minutes of work.

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Same speaker, same side this morning. Not perfect, but much better. I sound like a late-night commercial, but this stuff works really well.

http://www.rockymountainlustre.com/

I pulled both tweeters last night and both show open on my Fluke, so both shot, as I figured. But all in all, that's not too bad. Replacements are available. Not cheap, but available.

Take care,

Ed

DuctTape&Bondo
DuctTape&Bondo Reader
4/24/12 11:20 a.m.

Congrats! Love stories like that and your excitement is definitely contageous. I'm still stoked about the L100 Centuries I found on craigs for under $100 and I all they've been doing is sit in front of my tv not hooked up.

geowit
geowit Reader
4/24/12 11:40 a.m.

Cool story. I still have my AR5's and an all manual AR turn table that I bought new. Still makes the wax sound thousands of times better than any MP3.

MG Bryan
MG Bryan SuperDork
4/24/12 11:42 a.m.

Am I the only one that can't see the pictures?

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
4/24/12 11:48 a.m.
MG Bryan wrote: Am I the only one that can't see the pictures?

No I can't either.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 SuperDork
4/24/12 12:58 p.m.

Me three!

Type Q
Type Q Dork
4/24/12 2:36 p.m.

I grew up listening to the AR3's my dad had in his system. Part of me wants to be a total vintage HiFi enabler and ask if you would be interested in a matched pair of McIntosh MC60 power amps to drive your AR9's.

Sounds like you are in trouble with your wife already.

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 SuperDork
4/24/12 3:05 p.m.
MG Bryan wrote: Am I the only one that can't see the pictures?

Sorry, I thought that would work. Maybe not. I updated the posts with pics hosted somewhere else. Should work now.

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 SuperDork
4/24/12 3:12 p.m.

I just ordered replacement tweeters, so they should be making some kind of racket before long. I'll see what I've got at that point, but I suspect they'll need new crossover caps. I priced them this morning- that'll be another $120. The surrounds on the woofers (all six of them) look to me like they're original, so that will need to be done before long. That's another $50. Let's see.

$350 for the speakers $160 for new tweeters $120 for caps $50 for foam

Yeah. That's already getting up north of what they're actually worth. But after waiting so long, I can't say I really care.

dyintorace
dyintorace UltraDork
4/24/12 3:19 p.m.

Very cool story. I just wish we'd be able to hear (and appreciate) the final product! I'd also be in for a build thread!

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