It comes down it's either dark out or there's sunlight, and the farther north you go the more extreme the length of those periods. Crankwalk can really fill you in.
In reply to RX Reven' :
I like the extra hour of daylight I'm awake for.
Too bad you never took a class on how to set a clock. That's almost a whole minute of time twice a year just wasted. You'd rather your kids stand in the dark waiting for the bus.
Those cold winter mornings are so much better in the dark.
Some ideas just pander to our stupidity and laziness for political gain over common sense.
Michigan is already a joke. We should be in Central not Eastern time zone, but a century ago the automakers wanted to be on the same time as Wall Street. There's a place I go in northern Michigan with a sun dial on the side of a building set to actual sun time and you can se in summer it's nearly two hours ahead.
The funny thing about kids and school. Here we forget about Norther Canada, Norther Europe etc. even where I grew up in Northern England the sun didn't rise until gone 8:00am and set before 4:00pm in the middle of winter and there are whole countries further north than I was and there were no laws about cars stopping for school busses, which are a very good thing, there.
ProDarwin said:I'm fine with keeping it year round. I mean logically it doesn't make sense for it to exist at all - businesses/schools/etc. should adjust their hours instead, but logic is not our strong suit here in the US.
I agree! It never did make any sense. Paul Harvey told me that the first recorded time that something that inane was suggested... to save on lamp oil costs... parliament laughed them out of the building.
Heavyly paraphrased from ”... the rest of the story”
CJ (He's Just an FS) said:I have herd concerns about kids walking to school (or their bus stop) in complete darkness if DST was year round.
Uphill, both ways!!! Likewise did in my day...
spitfirebill said:I've always said move it ahead 30 minutes and lock it and throw away the key. Never could figure how this was going to help us save energy.
It never did. But try explaining something based on science, to someone that believes the “science” that everyone “knows”
Snowdoggie said:aircooled said:Snowdoggie said:They can't pass a stimulus bill, they can't pass a long term budget, the infrastructure is falling apart and they have time to mess with this?
I think we need some pay cuts in Washington.
Maybe this is something they can actually agree on... baby steps.
Meh. They just want to go back to their districts before election day and claim to have accomplished something other than go on vacation every other month. Not buying it.
!!!!! Nailed it!!!!!
NOT A TA said:CJ (He's Just an FS) said:I have herd concerns about kids walking to school (or their bus stop) in complete darkness if DST was year round.
They did it because of the "energy crisis" back in '74 when I was in high school. IIRC there were more incidents but not a lot. I liked having the daylight at the end of the day.
Uh, no. I’d have to look up when the gub’ment started it, but it was long before then. More areas may have jumped on the bandwagon by then, but I know Benjamin Franklin tried to get it pushed through. He got laughed at also.
My company HQ is in AZ, so part of the year we are three hours apart, others two. Or four. I can't remember, its confusing, please fix it.
frenchyd said:In reply to RX Reven' :
I like the extra hour of daylight I'm awake for.
Too bad you never took a class on how to set a clock. That's almost a whole minute of time twice a year just wasted. You'd rather your kids stand in the dark waiting for the bus.
Those cold winter mornings are so much better in the dark.
Some ideas just pander to our stupidity and laziness for political gain over common sense.
Did he piss in your cornflakes this morning? Have you been being rude, condescending and insulting for so long you don’t realize you are doing it? Or do you just think it’s ok?
Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter) said:Michigan is already a joke. We should be in Central not Eastern time zone, but a century ago the automakers wanted to be on the same time as Wall Street. There's a place I go in northern Michigan with a sun dial on the side of a building set to actual sun time and you can se in summer it's nearly two hours ahead.
The funny thing about kids and school. Here we forget about Norther Canada, Norther Europe etc. even where I grew up in Northern England the sun didn't rise until gone 8:00am and set before 4:00pm in the middle of winter and there are whole countries further north than I was and there were no laws about cars stopping for school busses, which are a very good thing, there.
The UP really makes no sense. Counties bordering WI are on Central time. Everything else is on Eastern time. Why are Ontonagon and Geobic counties on different time zones? Same with Menominee and Delta (Escanaba)? Why is Marquette, which is WEST of Chicago, on Eastern time?
Indiana is equally stupid. And it used to be different county by county whether or not they observed DST, so it could, theoretically, you could have CST, CST+DST, EST, EST+DST - 3 times in 1 state that isn't that big going East to West. I don't know if that was actually the case or not, but... Craziness.
When I read Michigan is a joke... my mind went a totally different place than he continued with!
i was thinking - ain’t my favorite state, but that’s a bit harsh!!!
Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter) said:Michigan is already a joke. We should be in Central not Eastern time zone, but a century ago the automakers wanted to be on the same time as Wall Street. There's a place I go in northern Michigan with a sun dial on the side of a building set to actual sun time and you can se in summer it's nearly two hours ahead.
The funny thing about kids and school. Here we forget about Norther Canada, Norther Europe etc. even where I grew up in Northern England the sun didn't rise until gone 8:00am and set before 4:00pm in the middle of winter and there are whole countries further north than I was and there were no laws about cars stopping for school busses, which are a very good thing, there.
Doesn't the UK also do daylight savings like a month before the colonies do?
RevRico said:Doesn't the UK also do daylight savings like a month before the colonies do?
Yup. But since I've been here the US has changed when it's implemented. We (here) used to change after the UK, but now change before. Or the otherway around I forget. The whole concept is just stupid and needs to be done away with.
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