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Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
9/10/22 2:40 p.m.

I get it.  Everyone and their brother has a video camera and a youtube account now.   Good for you

I just want to scroll through a page or two of forum notes and and a dozen or more feedback posts about how someone did something.  I don't want your shaky camera and your dumbass jokes and all the other nonsense that you are doing to try and stand out on the internet and get your likes.

Not everyone needs to be a star online.

Berk.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
9/10/22 2:45 p.m.

YES.

I hate that any time I search for a bit of technical trivia (such as, say, testing the G451 on a Volkswagen CJAA engine) I get fifteen video hits and then a bunch of marketplace ads.

 

Ain't nobody got time for that.  Give me a resistance value or give me a measuring block location but don't give me a berking video.

 

Or maybe I am doing it wrong, and should be making the damn videos.  With subtitles.

j_tso
j_tso HalfDork
9/10/22 3:39 p.m.

I hate when they spend the first 5 minutes explaining what they're going to do when a paragraph in the description would have sufficed.

And stop turning the camera to yourself. Symmetrically faced people are on tv for a reason.

Slippery
Slippery PowerDork
9/10/22 3:42 p.m.

The thing is that when you are fixing something its a pita to have a camera and document something. It slows the process a lot. 

And then no one ever posts on your threads lol. 

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/10/22 4:08 p.m.

I agree with this. I recently grabbed a few books from the library because I was having so much trouble getting good info on the internet. 

Most of the time I prefer reading because I can go at my own speed and skim to the important parts and then read and re read the info I need. 

Harder to do with a video.

I also agree there is difficulty in judging the trustworthyness of the author because the comments section is not nearly as good as identifying people who do it wrong.

NickD
NickD MegaDork
9/10/22 4:09 p.m.

I can read like a demon, like polish off a Tom Clancy book in a weekend, and I absorb info better through reading. So videos are often much slower and much less efficient to me. 

Jesse Ransom
Jesse Ransom UltimaDork
9/10/22 4:24 p.m.

Videos CAN be really good and useful.

Too often, they are not.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
9/10/22 4:55 p.m.

They can't all be number 1 on the list :)

I don't use YT video tutorials unless I'm looking for something from a specific source, like MiniMania's classic Mini transmission rebuild. I'll always have written documentation on hand if possible. I have a very low opinion of the average quality of information on YouTube. At best, the presenter has done something more than once - but not usually. I want to learn from experts, not randos. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
9/10/22 4:55 p.m.

In reply to tremm :

If it is not at least ten minutes long, it does not get recommended.

 

Boris of Life of Boris noted that his videos were getting fewer views, and even his subscribers were not getting notifications.  So in protest he made deliberately long but pointless videos like one of him eating potato chips for twelve minutes.  Or him talking on the phone with his mom for twenty minutes in another room.

docwyte
docwyte PowerDork
9/10/22 5:25 p.m.

I'm old school and tend to make diy forum posts vs videos.  I couldn't be bothered with trying to film something, I don't have the equipment or patience for it vs grabbing my phone and taking pictures of what I'm doing along the way

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
9/10/22 6:00 p.m.

Don't forget to hit "like" and "subscribe". laugh

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) MegaDork
9/10/22 6:10 p.m.

I like YouTube tutorials...but please skip the background music. 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
9/10/22 6:46 p.m.

In reply to Woody (Forum Supportum) :

Sound is the most common complaint on our videos. Too quiet, too loud, music, no music - even "I can hear his paper notes rustling, what is this, 1993?" (Seriously, we stopped using paper in 1994?) You just can't please everyone. Or anyone. 

bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter)
bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
9/10/22 7:02 p.m.

Wow. I don't really understand the dislike. Whenever I need to do something for the first time I go straight to Youtube and watch someone else do it. Often it's enough to see where that one bolt is hiding, or get a better picture of what it is I am trying to feel for with my fingers. Sometimes I click on a bunch of them before I find a good one, but that takes less time than muddling through a job having no idea how to do it. I even made my own when I could not find a decent tutorial on how to set up Cummins injectors. Almost 16,000 people watched it so far so apparently there was some demand. 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shRxH7dMZ-k

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
9/10/22 7:07 p.m.

In reply to bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) :

Do a regular Google search for something like, I don't know, TDI EGR testing.  You get a lot of VIDEO hits.  If I wanted that I would search on a video site.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
9/10/22 7:13 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

In reply to bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) :

Do a regular Google search for something like, I don't know, TDI EGR testing.  You get a lot of VIDEO hits.  If I wanted that I would search on a video site.

Google owns Youtube.  I mean...

chandler
chandler UltimaDork
9/10/22 7:36 p.m.

I'm with you, the death of forums and written discussion is not helping with the spread or perpetuation of remembered information. Some of the YTube videos are just plain wrong as well. Can be very frustrating.

SkinnyG (Forum Supporter)
SkinnyG (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
9/10/22 7:44 p.m.

I hate wallowing through their life story before we get to not enough detail for what I want to learn.

On the other hand, sometimes I just want entertainment.

Having said that....

I have a youtube channel.  Mostly on the projects I build, machines I fix or build, and a wack of stuff for my students to reference in their shop class.

Whether my channel is or becomes what everyone wants to watch or not, I don't really care.  I'll make them the way I make them, and I recognize this isn't going to replace my day job any time soon.

 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
9/10/22 8:00 p.m.
Mr_Asa said:
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

In reply to bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) :

Do a regular Google search for something like, I don't know, TDI EGR testing.  You get a lot of VIDEO hits.  If I wanted that I would search on a video site.

Google owns Youtube.  I mean...

I know.  But I am not searching for videos, there is a tab for that.  I am not searching for shopping, there is a tab for that.

Put things in quotes to force search terms and it ignores them.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
9/10/22 8:15 p.m.

It's content that's attempting to help me with a problem...for free. If sitting through BS advertisements and lame Dad jokes gets my problem solved, so be it. Is this the worst problem to have?

 

SkinnyG (Forum Supporter)
SkinnyG (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
9/10/22 8:47 p.m.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
9/10/22 9:40 p.m.

I needed to remove the rear seat back on an F150 on Thursday, to id the code for the door number pad.  It's pretty easy, except for the lousy pictures in All data, which are the factory pictures.  

So, off to youtube to watch a video.  Lots of introduction, lots of exposition, edit out the part where you actually insert the screwdriver and pull up and push back and push down on the seat back...

I did science it out, but I really don't need any info other than how to get the berkeleying seat out.  The rest of it is cake.

ddavidv
ddavidv UltimaDork
9/11/22 8:40 a.m.

I use YT quite a bit for tackling things I'm unfamiliar with. It all depends on the community/individual that makes the videos if they are any good or not. I tackled a very challenging valve check on my Triumph triple with an excellent video from a British YTer. Fixed the squawking sound in the washing machine with another one done by an appliance tech. Most of the time I can find at least one quality tutorial on any subject.

On my own channel, I mostly show what I did, not how I did it, because I'm not pretending to be an expert on anything. I don't want some moron hurting themselves following my step-by-step instructions and then suing me. I pretty much adhere to the Vice Grip Garage rule:

wheelsmithy (Joe-with-an-L)
wheelsmithy (Joe-with-an-L) PowerDork
9/11/22 8:51 a.m.

I learn tons from YouTube. A huge shout out to all those who have taught me so much.

Where else could I get lathe and mill operating instruction from a MIT instructor at zero cash outlay?

Sure, there is an unfavorable noise to signal ratio, but we all have always been responsible for figuring out weather what we are seeing or hearing is BS. 

Maybe I'm watching different content than a lot of you.

 

Scotty Con Queso
Scotty Con Queso SuperDork
9/11/22 10:07 a.m.

There is nothing worse than home repair how to videos. Imagine having a plumbing emergency, covered in human E36 M3, and having to scroll through 15 minutes of "hots on the left, cold on the right" nonsense praying you'll get a decent answer. Usually, you don't. 

For auto repair, I recently stumbled upon the YT channel "K Diagnostics". You guys seriously need to give this channel a view. 

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