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stuart in mn
stuart in mn PowerDork
3/18/14 12:12 p.m.
Lof8 wrote: I studied Architecture at the University of Florida. They pretty much force you to use the word "space" to describe every room or area of a design. I'm sure other design schools are the same. Gotta make yourself sound important, ya know? I was pretty annoyed by it myself.

My college roommate was an architect. To expand on the statement above, they tend to use "sense of space" all too often in sentences. Still, it's easy to tune all this kind of stuff out, it will save on your nerves and your blood pressure. There are more important things in the world to worry about.

yamaha
yamaha UltimaDork
3/18/14 12:29 p.m.
Lof8 wrote: I studied Architecture at the University of Florida. They pretty much force you to use the word "space" to describe every room or area of a design. I'm sure other design schools are the same. Gotta make yourself sound important, ya know? I was pretty annoyed by it myself.

Yea, don't get me started on why an HVAC Engineer was supposedly teaching me Mechanical Engineering........he couldn't even comprehend simple algebra.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
3/18/14 12:38 p.m.

Exiting college and searching for engineering jobs. HVAC, Building, Costodial, Sanitation....

Was a bit aggrivating wading through that.

KyAllroad
KyAllroad New Reader
3/18/14 12:57 p.m.

Every time I hear "most unique" or any other variation of uniqueness. By definition some thing either is or is not unique, no gradations allowed thereof.

A local pet peeve for those of us in the midwest: hanging "at" at the end of a question. i.e. "Where did you park your car at?" No dimwit! Say it again and say it right or we can"t have an intelligent conversation.

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
3/18/14 1:05 p.m.
oldtin wrote: Don't get me started on downsized packaging... harummmph

But would you have also complained if the package stayed the same size and the price went up? Those are really the only two options.

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3/18/14 1:13 p.m.

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3/18/14 1:14 p.m.

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oldopelguy
oldopelguy SuperDork
3/18/14 1:24 p.m.

"Space" doesn't bother me half as much as "piece." Whenever someone looks at something I am selling and refers to it as a "piece" instead of whatever it actually is I just add a zero to the price and prepare mentally to take advantage of their ignorance.

aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
3/18/14 1:32 p.m.

You don't happen to sell un-traceable handguns on the street do you?

(in that case, I think it might be appropriate)

Flight Service
Flight Service MegaDork
3/18/14 1:35 p.m.
DrBoost wrote: Is marketing stupid, or are Americans stupid?

yes

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
3/18/14 1:40 p.m.
oldopelguy wrote: Whenever someone looks at something I am selling and refers to it as a "piece" instead of whatever it actually is I just add a zero to the price and prepare mentally to take advantage of their ignorance.

I mentally substitute "codpiece" for "piece" and it makes the whole thing a lot more amusing.

Basil Exposition
Basil Exposition Dork
3/18/14 1:56 p.m.

I work in the financial sector and there's one guy in my office who uses "space" for everything related to an industry or a subset of an industry. "The healthcare space, the automotive space, the hospitality space, the exploration and production space in the oil space." God help me, but I'm beginning to understand physical assault and murder in the "white collar space."

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
3/18/14 2:02 p.m.

In reply to Basil Exposition:

it sounds like he is trying too hard to sound intelligent and important. just beat him half to death with that space

wbjones
wbjones UltimaDork
3/18/14 2:31 p.m.
stuart in mn wrote:
Lof8 wrote: I studied Architecture at the University of Florida. They pretty much force you to use the word "space" to describe every room or area of a design. I'm sure other design schools are the same. Gotta make yourself sound important, ya know? I was pretty annoyed by it myself.
My college roommate was an architect. To expand on the statement above, they tend to use "sense of space" all too often in sentences. Still, it's easy to tune all this kind of stuff out, it will save on your nerves and your blood pressure. There are more important things in the world to worry about.

yeah …. as far as I'm concerned, that's why god invented the mute button

DrBoost
DrBoost PowerDork
3/18/14 2:51 p.m.
Basil Exposition wrote: I work in the financial sector and there's one guy in my office who uses "space" for everything related to an industry or a subset of an industry. "The healthcare space, the automotive space, the hospitality space, the exploration and production space in the oil space." God help me, but I'm beginning to understand physical assault and murder in the "white collar space."

I was going to mention this, but I thought I was sounding petty enough already haha. Yeah, here at work they'll talk about being competitive in the automotive space, the mining space, or the off-highway space. I'm thinking about using tape and marking off spaces on the carpet and labeling them "automotive", "mining", and the like. And I agree, it's the result of people trying to sound intelligent. I don't care to sound intelligent, I'd rather be viewed as intelligent.

DrBoost
DrBoost PowerDork
3/18/14 2:52 p.m.
wbjones wrote: yeah …. as far as I'm concerned, that's why god invented the mute button

Can't mute the guy you're talking to.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
3/18/14 2:58 p.m.
DrBoost wrote:
wbjones wrote: yeah …. as far as I'm concerned, that's why god invented the mute button
Can't mute the guy you're talking to.

Depends... does this smell like chloroform?

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair PowerDork
3/18/14 5:11 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
DrBoost wrote:
wbjones wrote: yeah …. as far as I'm concerned, that's why god invented the mute button
Can't mute the guy you're talking to.
Depends... does this smell like chloroform?

i thought that was a pickup line, kinda similar to "hey baby, does this drink taste like roofies?"

Rufledt
Rufledt SuperDork
3/18/14 6:37 p.m.
DrBoost wrote:
Basil Exposition wrote: I work in the financial sector and there's one guy in my office who uses "space" for everything related to an industry or a subset of an industry. "The healthcare space, the automotive space, the hospitality space, the exploration and production space in the oil space." God help me, but I'm beginning to understand physical assault and murder in the "white collar space."
I was going to mention this, but I thought I was sounding petty enough already haha. Yeah, here at work they'll talk about being competitive in the automotive space, the mining space, or the off-highway space. I'm thinking about using tape and marking off spaces on the carpet and labeling them "automotive", "mining", and the like. And I agree, it's the result of people trying to sound intelligent. I don't care to **sound** intelligent, I'd rather be viewed **as** intelligent.

I had a professor explain that phenomenon to me in academia, and I have since learned other reasons why people talk/write like that.

1- trying to intimidate others with knowledge. The general idea is that "I can understand this all, I said it. If you can't understand it, it means you aren't as smart or deep or insightful as me". What this actually means, likely, is that "I don't really know what i'm talking about, because if I did, I could explain it clearly using words that everybody understands." Intellectual elitism is alive and well, one way to keep it unreachable by 'lesser' minds is by encoding it in buzzwords nobody cares to learn, because they already have their own way of discussing things that makes perfect sense to them. In a sense, it's either to try to look smarter (as you have mentioned), or because they don't actually understand it well enough to explain it properly (oddly enough this is exactly the opposite of what they were trying to prove). This can be particularly infuriating to other academics, because so much is meant to be applied to society. That's kind of the point. Why bother figuring out how biology works if you aren't going to use it to improve medicine or the environment or something? It can't be applied to anything if the society doesn't know what the hell you're saying, thus making everything you say worthless. This may not apply to a guy overusing the term space, but it is similar to the BS word usage.

2- Old terminology being replaced by new, less problematic terminology. In anthropology we hit on this a lot, like the term "Race". The problems with that term can, has, and continues to fill books. For a long time it was thrown out as a genetic idea, taken only as socially constructed, but now is coming back in a whole different way (biological in addition to social, but not necessarily genetic. Genes don't account for all biological variation). If we just used the same word (Race), people who didn't care to read all up on it would think of it in the old, problematic ways with genetic determinism, bounded categories, and hierarchies and all that crap, even though race is exactly what is being talked about.

3- Getting people to think things through. Sortof like #1, but with purpose. Have you ever read anything by Homi Bhabha? Pierre Bourdieu? It's infuriatingly poorly worded. Granted, some of that is translation issues, but some isn't. If you take the time to think through it, decipher the wording complexity used to describe not super complicated ideas, you'll understand them inside and out. Again, not sure how this applies to your example. I also hate this. A lot.

4- Career building. Come up with more evidence to prove someone else's point? Good for you. Come up with your own new way of talking about stuff with new words or word usages? EVERYBODY has to reference you for them from now on. Career building. Doesn't really apply outside of academia, but it's a reason for new words/uses. It doesn't help out much, but it gets attention.

It's very annoying. Just say what you mean, simply and clearly.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
3/18/14 6:56 p.m.
AngryCorvair wrote: "hey baby, does this drink taste like roofies?"

That is the 1st thing my wife said to me when we met.

Rufledt
Rufledt SuperDork
3/18/14 7:16 p.m.

In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:

Did you have some response like "No, how about this one?"

tuna55
tuna55 PowerDork
3/18/14 7:33 p.m.
Rufledt wrote: In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker: Did you have some response like "No, how about this one?"

Screw this noise, man. How's the new kid?

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