ISIS beheadings passé? They've got something new for you.

I caught the tail end of the report, but I think the news said the woman they were trying to swap was executed by hanging.

I guess they figured that our 'ally' Saudi Arabia beheads people all the time and we are ok with it, so they had to come up with something else. Maybe they saw what Obama's puppets in Ukraine did in Odessa and figured it would make a big impact if they did it too.

GameboyRMH wrote:

NOHOME wrote: Unfortunately, it has to be considered that what we are seeing are the true colors of Islam. Were it not so, there would be much louder objections from the "mainstream" practitioners of Islam. In contrast, their silence is deafening.

Trans_Maro wrote: ^this... I've been wondering why we're not hearing more outrage from the moderate muslims.

There's plenty of condemnation from mainstream Islam, but they might have to rent some billboards to get them noticed: http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/commonwordcommonlord/2014/08/think-muslims-havent-condemned-isis-think-again.html

The moderate Muslims are irrelevant. I didn't originate that concept, but I have to agree with it. Regardless of what the moderate Muslims say or don't say, they have just about as much will or ability to stop ISIS as the peaceful German population had in stopping the rise of the Nazi's in the thirties, or the peaceful Japanese population had stopping Japanese expansion and atrocities leading up to WWII, or the peaceful Russian population had stopping the Bolsheviks in 1917, etc, etc. It will require a worldwide coordinated effort to defeat/annihilate ISIS and the rest of their ilk. Problem is the rest of the world isn't ready yet. Unfortunately, there will be more atrocities to come.

^I wouldn't say they're irrelevant, but I think a better analogy is that the moderate Muslims have about as much power to stop ISIS & similar nutjobs as moderate Christians have to stop the Christian militias in the CAR - I'm sure there are many reading this, what could you do to stop the death squads in some African hellhole, even if you were over there instead of in a different country?

In reply to GameboyRMH:

Yes, I agree there's very little that moderate Christians can do about what's happening in Africa. However, the significance with ISIS is that they have the will and the growing ability to take their atrocities worldwide. I don't see that happening with the Christian militia. So when homegrown ISIS style atrocities spread worldwide on a routine basis, which is inevitable the way things are going, only then will the rest of the world unite in an attempt to stop it. And that will happen regardless of what the moderate Muslims think about it. Hence, their irrelevancy in the situation.

In reply to GameboyRMH:

I thought those CAR's christian militias were a direct result of the neighboring sudanese civil war that pitted one mentioned group man in the sky followers and a different set of followers of the same man in the sky?

GameboyRMH wrote: ^I wouldn't say they're irrelevant, but I think a better analogy is that the moderate Muslims have about as much power to stop ISIS & similar nutjobs as moderate Christians have to stop the Christian militias in the CAR - I'm sure there are many reading this, what could you do to stop the death squads in some African hellhole, even if you were over there instead of in a different country?

Follow the money trail to the truth. Same as the IRA was well funded by USA Irish, the radical Muslims are equally well funded by Muslims around the world who are happy to support the cause "From afar".

Here's an article about how this is being taken around the world and how ISIS is handling it from a PR perspective.

ISIS Knew It Would Face Backlash Over Burning

In reply to Xceler8x:

Absorb and deflect......ahh the typical response of those already in the wrong. We've watched 100 years of that here in the US from all parties.

Having just seen the actual video I'm inclined towards 'leave nothing but smoldering corpses and crying widows'.

Whohohoah, how's this for a condemnation of ISIS from mainstream Islam?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-militants-should-be-crucified-for-the-burning-of-jordanian-hostage-says-sunni-academic-10023773.html

mthomson22 wrote: Having just seen the actual video I'm inclined towards 'leave nothing but smoldering corpses and crying widows'.

I don't think any should be left to cry over the corpses.....

In a cynical twist, I think we should go in and try to capture them all. Only so they can be faced with the ultimate decision of "Death" or "Convert into a Mormon"

mthomson22 wrote: Having just seen the actual video I'm inclined towards 'leave nothing but smoldering corpses and crying widows'.

Not quite that simple of course. You can leave smoldering corpses, but will also have to leave smoldering widows and babies. They have taken over some populated areas and some of those people I am sure are less then willing hosts. Some of them are of course, and some of those are women and babies.

NOHOME wrote:

GameboyRMH wrote: ^I wouldn't say they're irrelevant, but I think a better analogy is that the moderate Muslims have about as much power to stop ISIS & similar nutjobs as moderate Christians have to stop the Christian militias in the CAR - I'm sure there are many reading this, what could you do to stop the death squads in some African hellhole, even if you were over there instead of in a different country?

Follow the money trail to the truth. Same as the IRA was well funded by USA Irish, the radical Muslims are equally well funded by Muslims around the world who are happy to support the cause "From afar".

Exactly. Let someone else get their hands dirty while we send you money and sit here silently protesting what you are doing.

Well Hillary Clinton just ensured that this woman's death will be particularly grisly:

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/05/politics/hillary-clinton-demands-release-of-isis-captive-zaitouneh-sotu/

If someone you know is an ISIS hostage, keep your mouth shut. Save any nice things you have to say for afterwards. Nothing you say can make things less bad.

Isn't there a sweaty pre-symptomatic ebola patient somewhere who would rather be beheaded that die a horrible slow death? It seems like it's pretty easy to get abducted. A few hugs could solve this problem.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Isn't there a sweaty pre-symptomatic ebola patient somewhere who would rather be beheaded that die a horrible slow death? It seems like it's pretty easy to get abducted. A few hugs could solve this problem.

1 renegade ebola patient vs the entire middle east. I like his odds.

Jordon's King Abdullah's response is a bit different from that of a "Super Power" like the U.S.

914Driver wrote: Jordon's King Abdullah's response is a bit different from that of a "Super Power" like the U.S.

Sometimes its good to be King, Whiners be damned.

they really opened a can of worms on themselves. First they behead those two Japanese Hostages, this stirs up the Japanese who already have a hawk PM.. and now they stepped over the line into what every other Middle Eastern country thinks is barbarism.. you simply do not desecrate a corpse like that..

Not to mention the Kurds are kicking their butt.

Time is running short for ISIL

Here's an interesting article on why mainstream Islamic condemnation is pointless and may even be counterproductive:

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/06/opinion/muslims-apology-dagli/index.html