Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Event Marketing
10/16/13 11:56 a.m.

Long story short, I use my iPad as a car GPS in my Trooper, and I'd like to punch in a long (multi-day) route that is nowhere near what Google Maps would generate. What's the best way to do this?

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
10/16/13 12:18 p.m.

if i knew how to subscribe to a thread, I would.

Not that it helps much, but i have found some google routes that, theoretically, you can input to google maps and use that as a route. At the time, I was looking for a drivable map of the Mille Miglia.

I would wager strongly that it's more possible in google than it is in apple maps.

Since you are making a trip-tik, perhaps search that term in the apps store?

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
10/16/13 12:35 p.m.

Ok a little searching got me one useful answer- way points.

I wish I knew how to edit how the apple maps chooses a route, but for google, you can at least turn off highways.

And I know it will be a PITA, but adding waypoints on the map will make the nav system go to those points.

I know it's possible to make a custom google route, BUT- it's not importable as a navigation route with all of the proper directions. Which seems to be a major pain.

aircooled
aircooled PowerDork
10/16/13 1:26 p.m.

How about this:

  • Enter list of addresses in Notes
  • Click on each as you need to go there (maps opens) and use Current Location as start from Directions
z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
10/16/13 1:28 p.m.

Have you checked the Overland Journal forum for anything?

mtn
mtn UltimaDork
10/16/13 1:41 p.m.

This is not a direct answer to your question, but it is what I would do, which makes it completely worthless. But I'm gonna give my opinion anyways.

Bear in mind, I'm a cheap guy who doesn't have even a smartphone. I dig getting lost, I dig reading a road atlas, and I take great pride in the fact that I can actually give directions to people off the top of my head.

When I take trips like this, I first get on the laptop on Google Maps. I type in all of my destinations, and have it route it. Then you can drage the route on the map to go where exactly you want to go. I'll do this quite often to hit roads I know are more fun, or if there is a 50 mph road with a ton of stop lights, I'll re-route it to a 45 mph road with 2 stop signs. Then print it out. Bam. Don't have to worry about not finding a signal.

I think you can also email the completed route to yourself, so this should work on an ipad as well.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
10/16/13 1:43 p.m.

Good luck. I couldn't figure out a way to do this on my last 7500 mile trip easily. Quite annoying.

mtn
mtn UltimaDork
10/16/13 1:46 p.m.

To illustrate the point, here is the google-generated map from Chicago to St. Louis:
https://www.google.com/maps?q=Chicago,+IL+to+St.+Louis,+MO&saddr=Chicago,+IL&daddr=St.+Louis,+MO&hl=en&sll=40.530502,-88.973808&sspn=0.164657,0.363922&geocode=FWICfwIdGuDG-inty_TQPCwOiDEAwMAJrabgrw%3BFbpmTQIdlKqf-in5ju36qbTYhzFb4Lsiyuo5vg&oq=chicago,+il+to+st.+lou&t=m&z=7

And here it is with my revisions to avoid traffic and stop at places I want to visit on the way:
https://www.google.com/maps?saddr=Chicago,+IL&daddr=ladd,+il+to:41.3301968,-89.1200436+to:38.9007046,-90.0547196+to:St.+Louis,+MO&hl=en&ll=40.380028,-89.604492&spn=5.279987,11.645508&sll=38.661922,-89.861298&sspn=0.676633,1.455688&geocode=FWICfwIdGuDG-inty_TQPCwOiDEAwMAJrabgrw%3BFYdydwIdYaCu-ilTJy0tXmQJiDE2-xpl7gM5sw%3BFRSmdgId1SKw-ikN7T_l7mAJiDEpkOveRn-bow%3BFeCTUQIdwd-h-ilblL9FNFnfhzGBGLIqhzsGLQ%3BFbpmTQIdlKqf-in5ju36qbTYhzFb4Lsiyuo5vg&mra=dpe&mrsp=3&sz=10&via=2,3&t=m&z=7

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
10/16/13 1:50 p.m.

Here's the recent thread i had trying to figure out the same-ish sort of thing.

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/gpsing-for-nerds-halp/66330/page1/

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Event Marketing
10/16/13 1:50 p.m.
z31maniac wrote: Have you checked the Overland Journal forum for anything?

Lots and lots of searching, and nothing there really. I use Gaia GPS for off-road stuff, and it's great. But no turn-by-turn means it doesn't work well on the street.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Event Marketing
10/16/13 1:51 p.m.
mtn wrote: This is not a direct answer to your question, but it is what I would do, which makes it completely worthless. But I'm gonna give my opinion anyways. Bear in mind, I'm a cheap guy who doesn't have even a smartphone. I dig getting lost, I dig reading a road atlas, and I take great pride in the fact that I can actually give directions to people off the top of my head. When I take trips like this, I first get on the laptop on Google Maps. I type in all of my destinations, and have it route it. Then you can drage the route on the map to go where exactly you want to go. I'll do this quite often to hit roads I know are more fun, or if there is a 50 mph road with a ton of stop lights, I'll re-route it to a 45 mph road with 2 stop signs. Then print it out. Bam. Don't have to worry about not finding a signal. I think you can also email the completed route to yourself, so this should work on an ipad as well.

This is a good way to do it, and the method I use when I'm not driving by myself. But on the Orange Blossom Tour, I'll have to read the route book, track mileage, scout for photo stops, and make sure everyone is okay all by myself. It wasn't easy last year, so this year I'm looking for some electronic help.

Ashyukun
Ashyukun HalfDork
10/16/13 2:05 p.m.

To do this I've generally found that I need to use a separate, dedicated GPS nav application. I tested a berk-ton of them back after Apple added the GPS into the phones for the app podcast I was doing, and have generally used either the Navigon offering or the somewhat cheaper Co-Pilot Live app.

Downside: They're not particularly cheap, though they are a lot better than they used to be (most started out around $100). Navigon North America is $60, and CoPilot Live HD North America is $20.

The upside is that most of them work just like you'd expect a stand-along GPS unit to work, with the ability to program in way-points and complicated routes. They also typically load the maps onto the device itself, so you can still use it if you're up on the mountains and don't have a decent data connection to download them over the air.

Unfortunately the chart I put together for that special episode isn't up on the website anymore, since it showed exactly which apps had the waypoint ability and which didn't.

ppddppdd
ppddppdd Reader
10/16/13 2:13 p.m.

Waze? It at least lets you insert waypoints into a route, which is a start. It's also damn good at dynamically rerouting you around traffic and lets users report accidents and police. On a well traveled road, the police reporting is pretty damn useful... rarely more than 10-20 minutes between report updates, so you at least have an idea that they're doing enforcement in an area.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Event Marketing
10/16/13 2:45 p.m.

I already have Navigon (as maps doesn't work where there is no cell service), but didn't realize it allowed custom routes. I guess I need to poke around some more.

Ashyukun
Ashyukun HalfDork
10/16/13 3:10 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard:

I'm pretty sure it does, but not 100% certain. If I remember I'll try and dig up the chart off my computer at home to see if it was one that had it. I don't have it on my phone with me any more since I rarely used it these days and wanted the space for other stuff...

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Event Marketing
10/21/13 7:16 p.m.

I figured it out! NAVIGON allows completely custom routes. Woo!

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