Now, 5 weeks, uaw holidays, and I pay to get 1.5 more.
I totally don't understand how one can't use time off, I would totally go insane and productivity would drop to a low level. Getting away is key to be productive.
Now, 5 weeks, uaw holidays, and I pay to get 1.5 more.
I totally don't understand how one can't use time off, I would totally go insane and productivity would drop to a low level. Getting away is key to be productive.
alfadriver wrote: I totally don't understand how one can't use time off, I would totally go insane and productivity would drop to a low level. Getting away is key to be productive.
If you aren't allow to use it. Pressure from boss/management not to use it. Projects that get assigned to you that would be impossible to complete if you actually used PTO. Etc.
PHeller wrote: I'm surprised you Canadians don't get more sick time. I guess since health care is cheap they expect you stay healthy.
Well, you do have to consider its "short term" ie: 3 days or less in a row. I've never taken all 10 days in 5 years, there was a 3 day stint last year that I was also sick over a weekend for 5 days total, but 10 seems super reasonable. Like I said, its not so much a hard limit as more of a "we need to have a talk". Sick days are ripe for abuse, so I understand the desire to limit them.
On the flip-side, like I said, long-term disability is fairly open ended, you can't be fired for being sick, but its a much more formal and rigorous process to insure no abuse of the system.
I get 35 days of PTO, but that includes holidays and sick days, all rolled into one. I usually have a hard time using it all up, with all the cutbacks on staff here. Plus no one does my job while I am gone, so it is all waiting for me when I get back.
2 weeks to start + mandated 3 sick days for King County. I got an extra week after one year. We only get 5 major holidays off.
ProDarwin wrote:alfadriver wrote: I totally don't understand how one can't use time off, I would totally go insane and productivity would drop to a low level. Getting away is key to be productive.If you aren't allow to use it. Pressure from boss/management not to use it. Projects that get assigned to you that would be impossible to complete if you actually used PTO. Etc.
So it's offered as an incentive to take the job, and not given.
That blows.
And that is the attitude toward time off I don't get here.
Nothing for the first year. I've taken some days off for our vacation that we had planned prior to me getting the job and I took yesterday and today for our little family reunion in Ohio. But they are unpaid.
After a year we get a week paid.
I've already taken more time off this year than in the last five years combined.
In reply to HiTempguy:
I am a Senior Admin at a College and there is no way that I can fit in 6 weeks of vacation. I already get 11 stat days, and I am off from Christmas Eve until the day after New Years (normally an extra 5-7 days off). Our holiday allowance is pretty nice. I normally squeeze in 4-5 weeks every year.
PHeller wrote: I'm surprised you Canadians don't get more sick time. I guess since health care is cheap they expect you stay healthy.
I get 6 months STD and the LTD kicks in.
So I think right now I'm up to 3 weeks vacation and a couple of weeks of PBA days. We get 12 holidays with five of those being the week of Christmas. It's really not a big deal though. My bosses policy is just get the work done and it's no big deal. I don't even think he tracks it.
I've been here for just under five years. Three (or five depending how I book it) weeks vacation, another week of paid sick days. 12 stat. holidays, but I work most of them because they work out to be about a grand each. We get 2 extra floater days (usually around Christmas) and the usual long/short term disability which is paid at 75%. I work about 165 days/year. Where I live, we also have job protected unpaid leave from 10 days to 37 weeks per year, depending on the situation.
In reply to alfadriver:
We have affiliate businesses in the Caribbean, Switzerland and Mexico plus 5 U.S. locations. I have a reasonable balance without using the time allotted. But yeah, the owner has an imperialistic view if the world.
NGTD wrote: In reply to HiTempguy: I am a Senior Admin at a College and there is no way that I can fit in 6 weeks of vacation. I already get 11 stat days, and I am off from Christmas Eve until the day after New Years (normally an extra 5-7 days off). Our holiday allowance is pretty nice. I normally squeeze in 4-5 weeks every year.
That makes sense, you get a lot of additional days off some don't I suppose! It does get to be hard to do your job when you are gone for more than 5 weeks a year no doubt.
My work schedule is 121 days per year.
I get 12 days vacation and 7 days sick plus 5 holidays. So, 24 days off out of the 121 takes me down to 97 days per year I have to be there.
That said, it's unlimited carryover and I have about 2700 hours in the bank saved up.
Scheduled to retire in 7 years. Not planning on being there much in the last few years. Then I'll have them write me a check for the remaining unused hours I stIll have when I turn in my papers.
ProDarwin wrote:alfadriver wrote: I totally don't understand how one can't use time off, I would totally go insane and productivity would drop to a low level. Getting away is key to be productive.If you aren't allow to use it. Pressure from boss/management not to use it. Projects that get assigned to you that would be impossible to complete if you actually used PTO. Etc.
I agree that vacations and other paid time off are a net positive, but many business leaders don't.
The gulag that I worked in back in the nineties made it perfectly clear that people who used all of their PTO would not be selected for promotions or lateral transfers.
The place that I worked for up until a few years ago would not let you * take two consecutive weeks off, also no one working there * could ever have more than 3 total weeks off. Taking vacation on holiday weeks in the bussy season was frowned upon.
Those aren't the reasons that I left those places, but are some of the reasons that I would never go back.
At the dealership I left, at 10 ears I got 3 weeks of vaca and that was all 'd ever get. No sick days. No PTO. Don't use that time up in a year? Too bad you lost it.
New job is 2 weeks of vaca and a week of PTO. I can carry over 40 hours of PTO and 40 hours of vaca every year which would theoretcially allow me to collect 5 weeks off in one year. That's never going to happen.... but it COULD.
I earn 10 hours of PTO a month. I am supposed to not go above 100 hours cumulative, so essentially I end up taking a day off every month or so to maintain my balance just around 100 hours.
On the plus side, I work from home and get to pretty much set my own work hours as long as I get my work done. That makes it easy to work random half days or take a day off completely but not lose any PTO hours as long as I make up the hours throughout the rest of the week.
Swank Force One wrote: In reply to Ayers_Garage: Where do i sign?
Fire Department. We put on a hiring test once per year.
I earn something like .07xx of PTO per hour paid and can keep/roll over 1.5 of what I earn a year. I'm currently sitting on close to 300 hours, and with a potential new job starting. That will be a nice farewell paycheck.
KyAllroad wrote: What do you all get? I hear about places where 2 weeks a year is all anyone gets, and I hear about teachers who only work 180 days a year and all sorts of jobs in between. Just curious. I've been at my job for a long time now and an in the top leave tier. 8 hrs per pay period (2 weeks) annual leave, 4 hrs sick leave per PP, and all the holidays off with pay. We can accumulate all the SL we want but can only carry over 240 hrs of AL from one year to the next. Not gonna lie, it's nice.
Must be gubmint. Mine is almost like that except I get 6 hours per 2 week pay period. A couple more years and I'll be getting 8 like you. Only been civil service 11 years. Took a while to build but I have to use-or-lose every year to get down to 240.
After 13 years, I get 3 weeks PTO/ year, can carry over as much as I want. I have 300 hours in the bank right now. No paid sick time, and no paid Federal holidays, but I work four tens most weeks, so I get a three day weekend three weeks each month.
I get 5 weeks off a year.. next year I move up to the max.. 6.
While I do not get paid holidays off, I work in entertainment after all, I do get time and a half for them
I get 2 weeks/year vacation and 4 days/ year personal time. I generally work 4 days/week in the "office" and check emails and such on the fifth.
At the last employer, I had 3 weeks vacation after being there 10 years.
With the current gig, I had a pretty clear idea of what I was getting before starting the job, and the 150% pay increase and 1000% job satisfaction increase over the old is worth the workload.
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