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sachilles
sachilles HalfDork
6/14/10 8:39 a.m.

How about the exhibition class at the $20xx challenge? Or the ultimate track car challenge. Sounds like the marketing team at GRM need to get involved. offering an impartial competition venue.

Grtechguy
Grtechguy SuperDork
6/14/10 2:30 p.m.

Mini has another response posted on Autoblog

Keith
Keith SuperDork
6/14/10 2:51 p.m.

"Dear Mini - how did you do at Le Mans this year?
- Porsche"

To me, MINI is being a big of a shiny happy person with this whole thing. They can't lose no matter what, and you just know that since they're deciding the competition, it'll be skewed big time.

volker
volker
6/14/10 3:17 p.m.

Porsche ought to take them up on it. All in good fun and could be a win-win for everyone PR wise. Right? Mini having a ball with it, flying the banner over Porsche hq, even made up some cool toy cars in a nice box. Can see them on mini's facebook page. Seems to be to be good fun for everyone especially those of us not interested in the world cup. Lets race!

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter Dork
6/14/10 3:23 p.m.

Yeah, this is just automotive little man syndrome.

Mini wins, and they kicked the crap out of Porsche.

Mini looses, and well, of course, they did, it's a FWD econobox vs a sports car... but look how little the difference was!

SilverFleet
SilverFleet Reader
6/14/10 3:26 p.m.
sachilles wrote: How about the exhibition class at the $20xx challenge? Or the ultimate track car challenge. Sounds like the marketing team at GRM need to get involved. offering an impartial competition venue.

This. I want to see this in person!

Otto_Maddox
Otto_Maddox Reader
6/14/10 4:51 p.m.

Seems kind of stupid to me. I am sure you can compare track times of MINIs and Porsches at tracks across the world if you really want to see which one is faster. If MINI had said "any time, any place" it would be one thing, but in a highly controlled environment of their choice the "challenge" loses all meaning. Why would Porsche bother? If the big guy beats up the little guy, nobody is surprised and the crowd admires the little guy for trying. Now if the little guy gets in a punch or more, he makes the big guy look like an idiot. Sounds like a total waste of time for Porsche. Maybe MINI should start by challenging a Miata and work up from there.

RedS13Coupe
RedS13Coupe Reader
6/14/10 5:31 p.m.
volker wrote: All in good fun and could be a win-win for everyone PR wise. Right?

Not even close. If Mini manages to set up the venue for a win, how would that ever be a PR boost for Porsche?

Mini challenges Porsche, they are too scared to do it... Finally they give in and get creamed by a much cheaper econo box.

Not really the picture Porsche is going for is it?

kpm
kpm New Reader
6/15/10 11:44 a.m.

Don't they race each other in the Continental Tire series ?

http://www.grand-am.com/schedule/results.cfm?series=k&eid=1506

Top ST Porsche was a Boxster in 25th, top MINI in ST was 55th.

I'd say the race has been run.

p.s. The top finisher in ST was a Honda Civic Si.

3Door4G
3Door4G Reader
6/15/10 11:54 a.m.

Porsche's response should be:

"Dear Mini.

Compete and match our lap times in any of the events we both compete in. Then and only then will we go head to head with you on the same track.

If you want to challenge a champion, you have to prove you're worthy.

Sincerely,

A Champion"

rebelgtp
rebelgtp Dork
6/15/10 12:22 p.m.

Yeah I'm sorry but the Mini guy is just being a shiny happy person. He KNOWS that Porsche will never accept the challenge on such a fixed race. I agree with others if MINI really wants to take on Porsche they should do it any time anywhere. If they are so determined to race Porsche why don't they just start entering races where Porsche is entered?

FlightService
FlightService New Reader
6/15/10 12:33 p.m.

I remember seeing an in car video of a Mini running right up on a Porsche 911 in a very tight section (single car width of road) of the Targa Newfoundland.

Cool to see the Mini right on the bumper of the 911. Then about 30 seconds later there was a straight with the normal 2 lanes and the Porsche did it's impersonation of David Copperfield.

Poof! Gone. Didn't even take 60 seconds.

octavious
octavious New Reader
6/23/10 8:00 a.m.

I found this on another board. From watching the interview I don't think the 997 driver was there from Porsche, I think he more or less volunteered. I haven't seen any repsonse from Mini or Porsche on the race results. Here's the link to the race:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/21/shocker-porsche-911-beats-mini-cooper-in-race-at-road-atlant/

Keith
Keith SuperDork
6/23/10 10:10 a.m.

MINI has released videos, they've certainly responded. And MINI provided the 911, not Porsche. They ran on a specially designed autocross track that looked like a 2D Hot Wheels course - and the Porsche won.

Now people are asking why MINI doesn't want to run against Hyundai. Whoops, from being the spunky new guy kicking sand at the captain of the football team, now they're scared of the little Korean kid with the weird glasses.

GI_Drewsifer
GI_Drewsifer Reader
6/23/10 10:25 a.m.

I have to agree with everyone who said this was a no win for Porsche. No matter the outcome, MINI wins. Porsche doesn't get anything out of the race. Yeah it would be fun to watch, but it doesn't increase the Porsche brand name.

@Keith, I was reading about that too. I think MINI doesn't want to race Hyundai because it was never about racing. It was about challenging a giant for PR. But Hyundai has put MINI on the other side of the card. Now MINI has nothing to gain and lots to lose by racing.

skruffy
skruffy SuperDork
6/23/10 10:30 a.m.

Talk about a layout that'll be brutal on right side tires lolz.

nickel_dime
nickel_dime Dork
6/23/10 11:44 a.m.

As a MINI owner I too think it was lame.

mndsm
mndsm HalfDork
6/23/10 12:18 p.m.

Heh, and here I was thinking about issuing a challenge to MINI myself vs. my ms3.

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