SVreX (Forum Supporter) said:Is this going to be a place with hot tubs and people wearing GRM underwear?
I'll bring Kool Aid, but we all have to drink it at the same time
SVreX (Forum Supporter) said:Is this going to be a place with hot tubs and people wearing GRM underwear?
I'll bring Kool Aid, but we all have to drink it at the same time
mtn (Forum Supporter) said:bobzilla said:In reply to Stefan (Forum Supporter) :
no, not really. There's this thing called "rural" life that allows me to have peace and quiet and be away from people. Its kinda nice. City people really need to realize theres more than just cities. HOA's are just a way for little people to feel powerful.
Weren't you just complaining that warehouses are now in your rural view, and you don't like it?
HOAs can be a way for €unty Karens to exercise their €untiness, and sure enough those are the ones you hear about. But they can also be a way to stop Frank two blocks away from erecting a warehouse that would ruin the view.
Don't take everything to the extreme - too many shades of gray in all of it. I still wouldn't live in any HOA, even a GRM designed HOA, at least not one that was mandatory, but don't paint them all as power hungry little people.
Leave it to us in this group to get all serious about it. I posted this so we could have fun.
I'm not saying "let's convene a committee meeting to discuss the feasibility of an automotive enthusiast HOA." I posted it because I wanted a fun hypothetical "everyone must own a Miata and drink at Stampie's bar"
Y'all need some Kool Aid.
I always thought the idea of car guy friendly condos was cool.
You have your typical condo apartment type building, but each unit has a well powered 2.5 car garage also, and the fees go to a shop with a lift for personal use, which must be booked by appointment and you're only allotted so many days per month.
Condo takes care of the building exterior and grounds, so you have all your time off to wrench, no worrying about mowing the lawn or pruning bushes.
No power tools or engines on for loud cars after 10pm (midnight on Fri-Sat) excluding returning home.
In reply to mtn (Forum Supporter) :
So the current problems we are experiencing deal with the laws on the books that allow forced annexation and cities/towns the ability to do whatever they want with no recourse for the common person. When we moved here 17 years ago, no towns wanted the area around us. They were not annexing, had no plans to do so and we had our rural slice of heaven. Forced annexation by some power hungry shiny happy people that decided to make an industrial park because they could changed that. Again, no recourse for the common person here. We got a 99% signature to get a remonstrance case in front of a judge who jsut didn't care. and here we are.
We are looking for something more remote because I hate people. This stuff just reinforces that.
EDIT: and to further destroy your strawman, there are two HOA's in the area that are now surrounded by warehouses on 3 sides. That HOA did them no good because the town can do whatever they want with theright judges.
For city living, the closest I can think of is Car Loft. A few have been built in Europe. Your parking spot is the front balcony via a shared elevator.
This would be me:
rogue_ryder said:My last straw with HOAs was about 10 years ago when I lived in a town house and got a handful of violation letters from the HOA for working on vehicles INSIDE MY OWN GARAGE! I could understand if I were in the street or leaving a car on jack stands in the driveway but in a garage with the door closed most of the time and during normal waking hours was the last straw for me. I said to my Girlfiend "F' this; I've had it, we're moving!" and I will NEVER buy a place in a "Covenanted Neighborhood".
Wow. If that happened, I would be looking through the HOA bylaws to see how many votes it would take to dissolve the association, then go out knocking on doors to see if other neighbors had reason to be outraged.
And if that failed, I'd be at every meeting proposing parody rules that followed the same "logic". Such as banning performing any landscaping work while on your lawn.
I almost bought a house a few years ago in a fly-in community.
Looked like a "normal" subdivision, except every house has a hanger attached to it where there would normally be a 2 car garage. Some houses didn't back directly up to the runway- you'd see those owners taxiing their planes down the neighborhood roads to their houses.
IT. WAS. AWESOME!!!
I don't fly, but I figured a hanger would make a pretty incredible shop!! (Some owners didn't have planes- wood shops, car collections, etc). The price point was very reasonable too. Like $350K
I really should have bought there!!
SVreX (Forum Supporter) said:I almost bought a house a few years ago in a fly-in community.
Looked like a "normal" subdivision, except every house has a hanger attached to it where there would normally be a 2 car garage. Some houses didn't back directly up to the runway- you'd see those owners taxiing their planes down the neighborhood roads to their houses.
IT. WAS. AWESOME!!!
I don't fly, but I figured a hanger would make a pretty incredible shop!! (Some owners didn't have planes- wood shops, car collections, etc). The price point was very reasonable too. Like $350K
I really should have bought there!!
Skip cannon - miata/lotus guy in colorado has exactly that. I stayed at his house few nights over the years. It's fantastic to wake up and see planes going down the street . He has no planes but lots of cars
his setup is exactly as you described and what I would want
Yeah. I have a family friend here in Omaha that lives on one. I fly his Cessna every now and then. It's awesome. I told him if he ever sells, call me first.
In reply to bmw88rider (Supportive Dude) :
Take your new CO $$$$$$$$ and buy one so we can visit !!!!
Lol...One has to open up first. They are rare to come on the market
mr2s2000elise said:SVreX (Forum Supporter) said:I almost bought a house a few years ago in a fly-in community.
Looked like a "normal" subdivision, except every house has a hanger attached to it where there would normally be a 2 car garage. Some houses didn't back directly up to the runway- you'd see those owners taxiing their planes down the neighborhood roads to their houses.
IT. WAS. AWESOME!!!
I don't fly, but I figured a hanger would make a pretty incredible shop!! (Some owners didn't have planes- wood shops, car collections, etc). The price point was very reasonable too. Like $350K
I really should have bought there!!
Skip cannon - miata/lotus guy in colorado has exactly that. I stayed at his house few nights over the years. It's fantastic to wake up and see planes going down the street . He has no planes but lots of cars
his setup is exactly as you described and what I would want
Ok, I have pitched this to my car friends before, but my idea of the perfect retirement community would be to purchase a smaller airfield with enough property surrounding it that you and a bunch of your like-minded friends could have hangers for living and whatever you were in to. Plenty of room to park planes/cars/boats and a standing drag race planned for every night before sunset. My only caveat is that it needs to be within 15-20 minutes helicopter ride to a major medical center. You know, cause E36 M3 happens.
hobiercr (FS) said:mr2s2000elise said:SVreX (Forum Supporter) said:I almost bought a house a few years ago in a fly-in community.
Looked like a "normal" subdivision, except every house has a hanger attached to it where there would normally be a 2 car garage. Some houses didn't back directly up to the runway- you'd see those owners taxiing their planes down the neighborhood roads to their houses.
IT. WAS. AWESOME!!!
I don't fly, but I figured a hanger would make a pretty incredible shop!! (Some owners didn't have planes- wood shops, car collections, etc). The price point was very reasonable too. Like $350K
I really should have bought there!!
Skip cannon - miata/lotus guy in colorado has exactly that. I stayed at his house few nights over the years. It's fantastic to wake up and see planes going down the street . He has no planes but lots of cars
his setup is exactly as you described and what I would want
Ok, I have pitched this to my car friends before, but my idea of the perfect retirement community would be to purchase a smaller airfield with enough property surrounding it that you and a bunch of your like-minded friends could have hangers for living and whatever you were in to. Plenty of room to park planes/cars/boats and a standing drag race planned for every night before sunset. My only caveat is that it needs to be within 15-20 minutes helicopter ride to a major medical center. You know, cause E36 M3 happens.
I would be a buyer at your place, as it sounds perfect for me
. My requirements have always been the same:
Having houses in HOA (strict and not strict), and non HOA - never had any problems. Then again I am a rule follower in life. When I visit family friends in the S and Midwest, and see all the lawn art, I am ok not living in those areas. We have those here as well.
The airplane hanger ones I have been to in the USA - 3 of them, have been mint and clean, and not "trashy." Plane people seem to be a lot more neat and clean than most "let me keep 30 non running junk projects in my front lawn" people.
Different strokes for different folks.
bobzilla said:In reply to mtn (Forum Supporter) :
So the current problems we are experiencing deal with the laws on the books that allow forced annexation and cities/towns the ability to do whatever they want with no recourse for the common person. When we moved here 17 years ago, no towns wanted the area around us. They were not annexing, had no plans to do so and we had our rural slice of heaven. Forced annexation by some power hungry shiny happy people that decided to make an industrial park because they could changed that. Again, no recourse for the common person here. We got a 99% signature to get a remonstrance case in front of a judge who jsut didn't care. and here we are.
We are looking for something more remote because I hate people. This stuff just reinforces that.
EDIT: and to further destroy your strawman, there are two HOA's in the area that are now surrounded by warehouses on 3 sides. That HOA did them no good because the town can do whatever they want with theright judges.
HOA did them no good because they didn't have any "jurisdiction" over that area.
Don't get me wrong. I very much want to move to the middle of nowhere. My wife is now getting involved with local politics and is slowly coming over to that side as well, over a proposed zoning change that would hurt her parents property values. I just also realize that there is a time and place for everything, including HOAs. If I want to control something, keep it rural for instance, I'd better buy as much of the land as I possibly can, and be as far away from anything that anybody wants to be near. Finding the happy place of being near those things that I also want to be near (grocery, for instance) can be difficult.
I think it needs a small city-park type railroad, operated by neighborhood kids, that goes to each property and will transfer parts from one place to another as needed. Would also collect and deposit "surplus to requirements" items to a local community outdoor repository. Neatly, of course. Dogs and drunks ride free
mtn (Forum Supporter) said:bobzilla said:In reply to mtn (Forum Supporter) :
So the current problems we are experiencing deal with the laws on the books that allow forced annexation and cities/towns the ability to do whatever they want with no recourse for the common person. When we moved here 17 years ago, no towns wanted the area around us. They were not annexing, had no plans to do so and we had our rural slice of heaven. Forced annexation by some power hungry shiny happy people that decided to make an industrial park because they could changed that. Again, no recourse for the common person here. We got a 99% signature to get a remonstrance case in front of a judge who jsut didn't care. and here we are.
We are looking for something more remote because I hate people. This stuff just reinforces that.
EDIT: and to further destroy your strawman, there are two HOA's in the area that are now surrounded by warehouses on 3 sides. That HOA did them no good because the town can do whatever they want with theright judges.
HOA did them no good because they didn't have any "jurisdiction" over that area.
Don't get me wrong. I very much want to move to the middle of nowhere. My wife is now getting involved with local politics and is slowly coming over to that side as well, over a proposed zoning change that would hurt her parents property values. I just also realize that there is a time and place for everything, including HOAs. If I want to control something, keep it rural for instance, I'd better buy as much of the land as I possibly can, and be as far away from anything that anybody wants to be near. Finding the happy place of being near those things that I also want to be near (grocery, for instance) can be difficult.
We are past the point of caring how close to anything we are at this point. We just want to be left the berkeley alone to live our lives as free human beings. For that reason I refuse to live somewhere with an hoa. Being chastised for it by the usual suspects is getting berkeleying old.
My current take on being neighborly and HOAs. The best way for me to be a good neighbor is to have no neighbors.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:
I posted it because I wanted a fun hypothetical "everyone must own a Miata and drink at Stampie's bar"
Hey I own a Miata and I drink at Stampie's bar regularly. That mean I'm good?
Stampie (FS) said:Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:
I posted it because I wanted a fun hypothetical "everyone must own a Miata and drink at Stampie's bar"
Hey I own a Miata and I drink at Stampie's bar regularly. That mean I'm good?
Dude... you're already on the board of directors and I'm nominating you for board chair.
In reply to Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) :
Ok but only if the board meets at my bar and the biggest argument is what's better between rye whiskey and bourbon. The answer is rye of course.
bobzilla said:
For that reason I refuse to live somewhere with an hoa. Being chastised for it by the usual suspects is getting berkeleying old.
Nobody is chastising you and nobody is telling you you should live in an HOA. You're reading things between the lines that aren't there.
Signed, a guy who specifically bought a house without an hoa for similar reasons to your not wanting one.
So what kinda beer is Stampie serving? Got anything Polish on draft?
In reply to mtn (Forum Supporter) :
Beer is BYOB cause I'm a whiskey man mainly. But I'd try some Polish beer you bring.
bobzilla said:In reply to Stefan (Forum Supporter) :
City people really need to realize theres more than just cities.
Shhhhh! No they dont!
Stampie (FS) said:In reply to Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) :
Ok but only if the board meets at my bar and the biggest argument is what's better between rye whiskey and bourbon. The answer is rye of course.
Second the motion for Rye. Call to vote.
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