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dculberson
dculberson UberDork
9/3/14 1:07 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote:
HiTempguy wrote:
GameboyRMH wrote: I can get why you'd focus on firearms, they're the most dangerous thing you're likely to find in a home and can do a lot of harm with just a little input,
Just because you think something, does not make it remotely close to being correct. The stats are readily available.
I couldn't find any stats on the most dangerous household objects, feel free to enlighten me. And keep in mind that rarity does not equal safety...I'm sure more people are killed by ladders than tigers, but if I have to be locked in a room with one, I know which is safer.

That was great.

Klayfish
Klayfish SuperDork
9/3/14 2:07 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: ...I'm sure more people are killed by ladders than tigers, but if I have to be locked in a room with one, I know which is safer.

Have you ever tried using one of those multifold ladders advertised on infomercials??

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
9/3/14 2:13 p.m.

I thought the most dangerous thing in the house was the bathtub.

Klayfish
Klayfish SuperDork
9/3/14 2:19 p.m.
spitfirebill wrote: I thought the most dangerous thing in the house was the bathtub.

No, the most dangerous thing in my house is my wife.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
9/3/14 2:38 p.m.

In my business law class, they taught us that the multi-fold ladders came with something like 30 or 50 pages of "DON'T DO THIS!!!" warnings. Someone sued them because they did one of the things told not to do in the instructions. They won because, you know, nobody is expected to read 50 pages of warnings.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy UberDork
9/3/14 5:07 p.m.
dculberson wrote:
GameboyRMH wrote:
HiTempguy wrote:
GameboyRMH wrote: I can get why you'd focus on firearms, they're the most dangerous thing you're likely to find in a home and can do a lot of harm with just a little input,
Just because you think something, does not make it remotely close to being correct. The stats are readily available.
I couldn't find any stats on the most dangerous household objects, feel free to enlighten me. And keep in mind that rarity does not equal safety...I'm sure more people are killed by ladders than tigers, but if I have to be locked in a room with one, I know which is safer.
That was great.

So in short, hyperbole wins? There are millions of guns in households across the US. The number of kids dieing because of them is so small. As others have alluded to, there are a couple other things I'd be more worried about then if there are guns in the house.

Can guns be dangerous? Sure. As you said, so can tigers. Are you going to ask your kid's friend's parents if they have tigers in the house too? Thank you for proving my point for me though. Your position is ridiculous.

http://www.childdeathreview.org/nationalchildmortalitydata.htm

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/01/27/3206581/kids-gun-violence-killed-injuries/

7000 kids are injured per year in the US by guns. The article is confusing, but if you dig deeper...

About 84 percent of these shootings involved teens aged 15 to 19, and two-thirds of those were related to assaults. While the study's database does not provide specifics, Leventhal said it's natural to assume that gang violence explains some of these gunshot injuries.

In short, there are way worse things to worry about, like if poisonous substances are secure, falling hazards and/or a pool.

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill Dork
9/3/14 6:23 p.m.

sigh. Politics, Religion, Race, and firearms...

Gun enthusiast with a kid here:

I have a kid. He's two. I'm in the "screw etiquette, I'd rather be considered rude than worry about attending my kids funeral" bin. I can live with my child missing a play date because the parents thought I was rude. A child having access to firearms is a legitimate fear, especially when the child isn't familiar with responsible firearm handling.

I think I'm responsible with my firearms. As a self-proclaimed "responsible firearm owner" I would take no offense to any questions as to where and how my firearms are stored as long as it focused on the child's safety, and not the parent's personal views on firearm ownership (if I felt like I was being judged, then I'd probably quit humoring questions).

They're locked in a safe. Yes, all of them. With the ammo.

I think the best advice given was:

PHeller wrote: I think one way to politely bring up the topic of "are you safe with guns" would be to ask "hey, I was wondering if you keep and firearms in the house, as my family does not, so we have not had the firearm discussion with our children, but if you do, I want to talk to my kid about guns before he comes over." Too which the other parents might say "oh my heavens no we dont keep guns in the house" or they may say "yes we do, but they are locked up tight in a hidden gun lock downstairs, so no worries" or they may say "you want me to give them a shooting lesson when they come over?"

Any of those three answers would be acceptable in my opinion :)

Background checks don't check IQ's.

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