Prepare for my rant...

Another thing; why would you put "Hot Crap" on your car? I hope this is not one of the GRM family members......

Where are the $2000 Miata's at? NOT in Chicago.

Chicago Miata Craigslist

My MKIV Jetta is lowered and on rubber bands

From CARS

wow all this dumping on VW's ... and all I want is a relitivly new TDI ... 40+ on the hw..(since we can't get the Ford Diesel in this country)

Question though? Is there any car that can't be riced? Every time I think no, here it comes...Just this week I've seen an E46 BMW with at least 22"s and painted pink and green, as well as a beyond riced 911.

To quote a friend, "there should be a taste claim rule in the constitution!"

I liked this thread when it was more about automotive moronity and less about a specific type of vehicle/owner.

My favorite story from when I bought my 02 WRX was a kid at the gas station. I'm simplifying, but it went something like:

HIM: Sweet car brahbrosefbro

ME: Thanks.

HIM: That got a turbo?

ME: Yes.

HIM: Where'd you git it pu on y0?

ME: Japan

HIM: awed silence Whoa.

This was back in the day when your options for a quick compact car were the Celica GT-S, the Acura RSX and the WRX. The WRX still wasn't very well known (people always asked what it was), and there were very few stock turbo cars on that market, and none in that price range. Things have changed for the better and, thankfully, people are still stupid enough to be entertaining.

John Brown wrote: My MKIV Jetta is lowered and on rubber bands From CARS

See, your car looks good. It's a GLI, and those have those nice stock BBS wheels with tires that are supposed to be on there. If you made those wheels twice the width and kept the same size tires on there, and slammed it into the pavement, you would fit in with the rest of the people I was talking about. Since you're on here, we all know you will not do that!

I will admit that I once had a VW phase myself, and quickly grew out of it when my 2002 Jetta showed me how much a POS a car can be. It had 30,000 miles on it when I got rid of it, and it was ready to go to the crusher. I still like the GTI's and GLI's, especially the older ones, but after owning that Jetta, never again will I get one. Oh, and it's not just VW people I'm crapping on, the Subaru community does it just as bad now with this Hella-Flush-It-Down-The-Toilet "movement".

My sister bought a silver 2005 GLI brand new and put a TON of miles on it in two years (Air Force specialist with family on both coasts) After two years she had 100,000 miles on it but never did the maintenance at the "scheduled" intervals. Her timing belt broke at 110K right on schedule. She mother-fathered that car to no end.

We were all at a wedding a few weeks ago and she saw my GLI and remarked I should sell it before the timing belt breaks... I quipped back that my daddy taught me how to maintain my cars to keep them from blowing up.

LMAO, yeeeeaaahhhhh, they don't like it when you tell them that. Or my wife's favorite question: How much is X part gonna cost?

My POS Jetta had all the proper maintenance done at the correct intervals. That didn't stop it from falling apart. In about 30,000 miles, the following happened:

-It would consume 3 quarts of oil between oil changes, right from the beginning (dealer said it was "normal")

-Gauges worked intermittently, especially coolant temp gauge, dealer couldn't replicate problem

-It made an ungodly grinding sound at exactly 33mph in any gear, dealer couldn't replicate (still have no clue FTF that was!)

-Tires dry-rotted in 2 years

-Heated seats had a recall, would cause burns on your butt if cranked up to highest setting

-Exhaust was falling off at about 25,000 miles, hangers began to rust right off and welds were getting iffy

-Went through bulbs almost as much as oil

I could go on and on....

Anyway, another thought I had was that these meatheads transcend time and generations, like some of you may have said. I always hear interesting "stories" whenever I take out my Trans Am about how people would pull the front wheels on the street in their mom's magic 1970 Chevelle SS 454 wagon that ran 10's from the factory and had 2,000hp. It's nothing new!

I just deal with a street racer wanabe type at work. The other night he was dead set that my CARBED '88 accord had a computer. After all, his friend had a '91, that was EFI and they are the same car...

DukeOfUndersteer wrote: case in point:

This kinda stuff just breaks my heart. Originally, the watercooled VW "scene" was about us being the "tasteful" alternative to the weirder part of the import tuner crowd. That's why the "Unpimp your Ride" ads for the Mk.5 GTI were so popular among us.

I guess when the "import tuner" people started paying more attention to import drags than they did to autoX/road racing, guys that owned VWs just gave up trying to build real cars when they discovered Honda really did make better engines than VW back when our cars were made. Damn shame, really.

Two Euros says that the officer in the photo is trying to insure that the slick on the street is just rain, and not oil..

EDIT: VW guy since 1992, never once rode on cut springs. My A2 Golf's got Neuspeeds with Tokiko Sports, the green C's got H&Rs (but I gotta find some struts/shocks that's a better match for the spring rate..lower without enough damper control is a bitch), and the black C's got a Bilstein coilover kit (that I'll admit, I haven't done any tuning on).

Play their game. Make e36 m3 up.

Appleseed wrote: Play their game. Make e36 m3 up.

My VTEC is a blown rotary with NOS; carbed and jetted, with Type R Competition injection headers...

With a MoTec system exhaust.

Duke, did he look like this guy?

SilverFleet wrote: Oh, and it's not just VW people I'm crapping on, the Subaru community does it just as bad now with this Hella-Flush-It-Down-The-Toilet "movement".

Hey, if Subaru has made the same mistake of "moving upmarket" recently (much as VW did in 1993 onwards), then this VW guy says that some of those Scoobie folks come by it honestly. My VWs are getting so old that maybe I should spend more time on the CM forums than I do here..

Not "flaming", just sayin'..been there, done that.

The worst "import" trend going now is the cheap performance parts one...

e.g. getting the $650 'coilovers' from a no-name asian garage company (coilovers > struts/springs; always, right?), and getting the largest rear sway bar possible.

Seeing a car go out of control or instantly spin at an autocross because either the mounting points/plates on the coilovers failed, or because the garage company use the same spring/damper rates for ALL the cars they produce this crap for, regardless of greatly differing suspension geometry etc, or because it's slammed and now has 1" of suspension travel etc etc...

Really scary stuff considering when the events are over, these cars are let out on public roads with the same numbnuts at the wheel.

I wouldn't even consider buying a Honda right now just because I don't want to be associated with "that crowd", nor would I want my car stolen and stripped for parts which happens all too frequently.

We loved our A2 GLI but got rid of it right when the Stoopid Tunerz crowd was coming into vogue. I see a lot of these once great cars ruined with bad spray can paint, horrid body kits and cut springs. That crap used to be reserved for Toyota Corollas and Hyundai Excels.

Now that I'm into BMWs I'm finding its moved into that brand as well. The ability to take a perfectly tuned car from the factory and make it worse knows no bounds. And the message boards....ugh.

ddavidv wrote: I wouldn't even consider buying a Honda right now just because I don't want to be associated with "that crowd", nor would I want my car stolen and stripped for parts which happens all too frequently.

There's always the EP3... no one wants them, and insurance is dirt cheap too :)

The slammed "hellaflush" cars don't bother me, I think alot of them look awesome, even though I'd never do it to mine.

I hate the douchebag, holier-than-thou attitude that comes from the crowd.

z31maniac wrote: The slammed "hellaflush" cars don't bother me, I think alot of them look awesome, even though I'd never do it to mine.

I agree, although it's odd that I live in RI, work in MA and rarely see this stuff on the road.

Personally, I mourn the death of the Honda "scene" when people actually built nice cars. Now it's all 'hood rats driving clapped out pieces of crap w/ mis-matched paint, bondo and cut springs. These same douches are the ones who stole my 321k mile EG from my driveway in April.

I love my car (99 Si), but hate what it is now associated with.

I hate what it does to resale value too...I mean around here if you can find a nice stockish civic/jetta/wrx it is priced as if it has gold plated connecting rods or something. They are outrageous, similar to the drift tax on the 240 sx's and such. Its getting hard to find a nice sporty car!

ddavidv wrote: Now that I'm into BMWs I'm finding its moved into that brand as well. The ability to take a perfectly tuned car from the factory and make it worse knows no bounds. And the message boards....ugh.

Yeah.. that was a bit of a rude awakening for me when I bought the E30...

re: removing the vacuum lines for "appearance reasons" and getting CEL's... A somewhat easy fix would be to replace the hoses with steel lines: chromed, polished, powder coated, etc... When you're stuck with something ugly and you can't get rid of it, make it a feature.

neon4891 wrote: I just deal with a street racer wanabe type at work. The other night he was dead set that my CARBED '88 accord had a computer. After all, his friend had a '91, that was EFI and they are the same car...

It probably does, what do you think is reading that O2 sensor? I don't know that if yours does for sure, but my '88 Prelude was carbed and had a computer. Same story with my brother's '87 Might Max truck. It's not uncommon for carbed cars from the late 80's to have computers monitoring emissions stuffs. On the Prelude, it was on the passenger floor board almost under the dash, there was a little velcro tab in the carpet, pull it back and if the key is in, you could see a little red blinking light in the window on the computer.

But back to the point, street racer wannabe guys at work are obnoxious. Everyone has an opinion and that's cool, only they insist there opinion is the right opinion and get all vocal about it.

GR40RACER wrote: Duke, did he look like this guy?

LMAO

I got spanked by a guy in a Type R in a street race years ago, @ around 120mph I had 2-3 car lengths on him, and the next thing I know by the time I hit 135 he had passed me. I imagine that's what his face looked like. And no I do not advocate street racing....Anymore