Aeromoto
Aeromoto Reader
4/2/12 3:57 p.m.

With all the talk of new cars, I figured I'd ask. I'd like to by a new Nissan or something else for my wife. She's easy to please and just wants a reliable daily with a/c.

Is there such a place where you can get a low price on line, like a new car wholesaler or something.

I've tried getting an online price from the local dealers, and their "special online pricing seems to be no less than their regular pricing, and after you've made an inquiry, the keep harrasing you.

I wish there was a place where I didn't have to deal with a salesman, and I could just get an honest out the door price, even if I have to travel to another state.

Does such a place exist or am I just dreaming?

Strizzo
Strizzo UltraDork
4/2/12 4:01 p.m.

if you just want a deal that is less than sticker, without the hassle, costco vehicle purchase program is one option. it seems that the dealers have realized that one way that people were getting "deals" was via online dealings, and have properly shored up that route to where they can make it seem like you're getting a deal even when you aren't.

Aeromoto
Aeromoto Reader
4/2/12 4:19 p.m.
Strizzo wrote: if you just want a deal that is less than sticker, without the hassle, costco vehicle purchase program is one option. it seems that the dealers have realized that one way that people were getting "deals" was via online dealings, and have properly shored up that route to where they can make it seem like you're getting a deal even when you aren't.

Yea, I saw Costco's car program, they want my phone number and such. No way am I giving my phone # to another car salesman. I just want the freaking price, let's leave my phone # out of it.

I swear, I just wish there was a new car vending machine somewhere so I didn't have to deal with blood sucking car dealers.

failboat
failboat Dork
4/2/12 6:20 p.m.

I really don't know what my dad paid, but he bought his 2000 impala new through cars.com. nowing him he probably worked the best deal he could. it was delivered to the driveway on a flatbed.

Of course, who knows how much that site has changed since then.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim UberDork
4/2/12 6:49 p.m.

In reply to Aeromoto:

You don't need to give them your phone number just to get the price, at least not out here. Just go to the CostCo Auto website.

rob_lewis
rob_lewis Dork
4/2/12 8:58 p.m.

http://www.carbuyingtips.com/

A great site. I have sent many friends there and used his tips for buying my truck years ago. Not affiliated or anything, just impressed with the wealth of data.

-Rob

Klayfish
Klayfish Dork
4/3/12 6:25 a.m.

That's going to be a tough one, since new cars are pretty much sold at dealerships, who do business by negotiation and discussion with the customer. I haven't bought a new car in about 5 years, but here's a couple things I did in the past that worked.

Ebay. Dealers will (or at least they used to) sometimes put their inventory they want to unload there. That's how I got our Kia minivan. It was a leftover model. The Ebay price was about $4500+ less than what the local dealer wanted. I did call the dealer on Ebay just to get a few details, but they didn't haggle, pester me or anything. It was just either buy it or don't. And I did. It was 3 states away, but worth the price.

Other option. Once you've done your research and decided what car you want, call all the local dealers within 50 miles of you. Be very straight with them. Say that you are going to buy a fill in car make/model here and are just looking for the dealer who will give the best price. Explain you don't want constant calls and games, because that will automatically eliminate them from any chance of a sale. Tell them to call you back with the best out the door price, and whatever dealer goes lowest wins. Before you give them your contact info, make sure they understand the guidelines you set. Some dealers will balk at it, but then they're out of the game. Did that a few times and it seemed to work really well.

FlightService
FlightService SuperDork
4/3/12 6:32 a.m.

OK blatent canoe here.

I am starting a service called Simplify Auto.

We do pricing, paperwork verification and vehicle location.

The last two are what makes us different.

If you do TrueCar the price will be different when you get there and you have to fight to get it. Then they tell you they don't have the car and they have to transfer it for a fee. So either way that 5% below actual dealer cost goes to what Joe Schmo could have recieved on his own.

Costco gives you and offer but then the dealer tags all sorts of stuff on the backend, but they usually at least have the car.

My service gets the price and sends you the documentation before you ever show up. All you have to do is inspect and test drive and verify what they have is what you have in your hand.

Pay and go home!

Here is the difference between me and them. I am paid by you, not the dealer. Everyone else makes money from the dealer, I am paid by you and therefor am your agent.

Now the non-canoe Costco is one service as it TrueCar.

Or you can just PM me. I would be happy to help.

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit Reader
4/3/12 7:59 a.m.

I know CarMax in Baltimore has been easy to deal with. A friend of mine wanted a new Nissan, drove off the lot in about an hour. She reported the process was painless.

YMMV

failboat
failboat Dork
4/3/12 8:02 a.m.

Isnt CarMax notorious for their no-haggle pricing? Which is generally overpriced? (in my experience)

FlightService
FlightService SuperDork
4/3/12 11:33 a.m.

Carmax is NO, NEVER, Noteven once haggling.

The prices are market competitive so you won't come out bad, but not GRM either except new. They absolutely rock on new prices.

z31maniac
z31maniac UberDork
4/3/12 12:05 p.m.

I've never thought it was that bad.

When I bought my truck last year, I just called the three Nissan dealers in town, told them what I wanted to buy and that I would be price shopping them against the other two.

jonnyd330
jonnyd330 New Reader
4/3/12 12:15 p.m.
Aeromoto wrote:
Strizzo wrote: if you just want a deal that is less than sticker, without the hassle, costco vehicle purchase program is one option. it seems that the dealers have realized that one way that people were getting "deals" was via online dealings, and have properly shored up that route to where they can make it seem like you're getting a deal even when you aren't.
Yea, I saw Costco's car program, they want my phone number and such. No way am I giving my phone # to another car salesman. I just want the freaking price, let's leave my phone # out of it. I swear, I just wish there was a new car vending machine somewhere so I didn't have to deal with blood sucking car dealers.

Go get a google voice number so you can use it for situations like this.

RossD
RossD UltraDork
4/3/12 12:43 p.m.

My dad bought his '10 Charger by telling the dealership how much he wanted to pay, what condition his trade was in and how much he wanted for it. They agreed via email. The first time he went to the dealership, the car was waiting out front and they drove away in about 30 minutes.

FlightService
FlightService SuperDork
4/3/12 2:14 p.m.

Thank you for the data.

I am not selling leads. I collect no money from the dealership in anyway. I am a hired agent, (which I know is prohibited in some states) by the interested party.

RossD that is awesome! That is a very rare circumstance these days!

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