Do not do it.
One year ago, on a beautiful sunny day, my good friend Bill took a walk in the woods. He then shot himself and died on the spot. A hunter found him shortly after. I went with his wife and another friend to retrieve his truck the following day. The 3 of us would have done anything to prevent his death. I miss him everyday.
No matter how much you hurt you will devestate many people when you take your life. Thanks for your time. Braden
Wow. Not what I expected to read at all. Erm.... I got nothin' else.
yeah, my brother-in-law checked out using pills.
I still think about it.........
Call those people you haven't talked to in a while. One of my best friends in high school, who I hung out with every day, played in a band with, etc., and I lost touch for a really long time. We chatted briefly on one o' them thur social networking sites, exchanged numbers, but never spoke on the phone. He had talked about maybe moving back to Georgia, and I was excited to get to hang out again.
I sent him a message a few months later...didn't here anything. Sent another message. Didn't hear anything. Sent a message to his band's account. His singer gave me the bad news. Call those people you haven't talked to/heard from in a while. They may really need to know how much you care for them.
I've lost a couple friends to that. Sucks.
Yup. A permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Lost an old friend and coworker years ago. No warning what so ever. Just went home and shot himself over the weekend. When he didn't come to work Monday people got worried. All he left was a note saying he was sorry. Stanley Shannon Fisher was a good guy but nobody knows what demons he fought except him.
A friend of mine tried to kill herself several years ago. Her roommate found her and cut her down from the shower head. She survived and today is happily married. We never talk about it but it scares me to think how close we came to losing her.
23 years ago, my brother thought he had painted himself into a corner, and found Dad's (hidden, locked) shotgun. He was 18. It was his third attempt.
I miss him. Greatly. 
A close family member of mine is suicidal. She cuts herself. Luckily now she takes meds and it has been much better, but sometimes she has her bad days. And those bad days are back. 
When you're the one bringing them to the hospital, you see who it affects first hand.
I almost checked out that way 25 years ago. I was young, (15) and had been in and out of the hospital my entire freshman year of HS (I almost got held back for missing too many days) as they tried to stablise my weight loss.
It took them 9 months to diagnose my crohnes.. and I had gone from 120 pounds to 82 in that that time.. at 5'11" tall..
As this was the mid/early 80s... the untalked fear in the hospital was AIDS.. nobody really knew what it was.. so I used to get a room to myself.
Easter morning, I was in the hospital, it was a sunny day, and I was in pain and badly depressed. I had noticed that the windows in my wing opened and I was sitting on the edge with only 5 floors of nothing between me and the ground.
I still do not know why I didn't do it.
It is about one month short of two years ago that I tackled someone about to put a knife to her neck. Part of the worst time of my life.
My step son got busted for selling pot. He hung himself in jail. He was 1500 miles away, too far for me to help.
Similar story here. Sent an email to two friends asking about a third last May. Got a response from #2 indicating he'd been to #1's funeral last week. It wasn't his first attempt. Depressed. The guy was 40. Forty. If I wasn't so sad about him being gone I'd be pissed as hell at him.
Mentioned it to my Pastor while in counseling for some marital stuff. He was sympathetic, but heard about situations like mine all too often.
Maybe somebody needs to do a website or Facebook page for all the people who have done themselves in and all the anguish it's caused to others....
iceracer, you have my condolences. My girls are roughly 4 and 2, and I simply cannot conceive of how I'd feel if they killed themselves.
and yet another place my lack of compassion separates me from most peoples thoughts (or I'll just say what others thing but refuse to say openly...)
I put them right up there with drug addicts... it takes a selfish person for either... don't care what it'll do to others... just about themselves... it's sad to see what it does to family and friends... as has been shown in this thread...
flamesuit on
My father's younger brother did it when he was 35. He's now been dead longer than he was alive. My father is 80 and I can still feel his pain sometimes.
Just went through this last week. At his showing, there was a line around the block for the full 4 hours. I wish he could have seen it.
donalson wrote: and yet another place my lack of compassion separates me from most peoples thoughts (or I'll just say what others thing but refuse to say openly...) I put them right up there with drug addicts... it takes a selfish person for either... don't care what it'll do to others... just about themselves... it's sad to see what it does to family and friends... as has been shown in this thread... *flamesuit on*
When a person is suicidal, they are mentally ill. Often it can be traced back to one event or a series of events that made them that way. In the case that I am involved with, that event was rape.
don't see any flames coming... it's not like we're not accustomed to our more outspoken posters.... everyone has opinions
the father of a friend had been a heavy drinker for many yrs ( 30+ ) ( fwiw also very rich ) had started playing golf with the old farts club ( he was a ... when sober.... a long time golfer ) on a regular basis...
told the father of my best friend that he'd quit drinking ... the hardest thing he'd ever done, but felt the best he'd ever felt.... last week came home late one afternoon / evening ... 38 in the mouth, no one has any idea why
My wife lost a friend. He put a pencil through his jugular. Ouch. Another friend of mine lost his ex girlfriend to pills. It was one of those "if you don't come back I'll kill myself" things, and as much as he knows its not his fault he still has trouble with it.
Hug friends every day, man. Let 'em know you love them.
mtn wrote:donalson wrote: and yet another place my lack of compassion separates me from most peoples thoughts (or I'll just say what others thing but refuse to say openly...) I put them right up there with drug addicts... it takes a selfish person for either... don't care what it'll do to others... just about themselves... it's sad to see what it does to family and friends... as has been shown in this thread... *flamesuit on*When a person is suicidal, they are mentally ill. Often it can be traced back to one event or a series of events that made them that way. In the case that I am involved with, that event was rape.
Thumbs up, it's cool to be an shiny happy person!
going to take the opposite side here.
Having been on the other side of the suicide divide.. as in being somebody who almost did it. I will defend anybody's right to end their life.. as long as they have a good reason.
Terminal medical conditions being #1
mad_machine wrote: going to take the opposite side here. Having been on the other side of the suicide divide.. as in being somebody who almost did it. I will defend anybody's right to end their life.. as long as they have a good reason. Terminal medical conditions being #1
Agree. I believe that we are all fitted with souls who are here to experience some set of particular things and its not my place to judge what your soul chooses to do. As someone who has never considered suicide, I'm equally unqualified to judge since I can't know whatever hardship or pathway has led someone to choose ending their life.
In reply to curtis73:
Well put.
In reply to donalson: Most people who suffer from deep depression have convinced themselves their friends and family would be better without them . I was suicidal as a teen and thankfully never went through with it and today I'm happily married with an awesome step-son. But your comment suggest that someone who is suffering from a deep depression and seeks suicide as an out should stay living simply to keep others from feeling loss and sadness. Those are the wrong reasons to not kill yourself.
donalson wrote: and yet another place my lack of compassion separates me from most peoples thoughts (or I'll just say what others thing but refuse to say openly...) I put them right up there with drug addicts... it takes a selfish person for either... don't care what it'll do to others... just about themselves... it's sad to see what it does to family and friends... as has been shown in this thread... *flamesuit on*
I was all ready to pick up a flame thrower too, until I kind of a agree with you.
First the disagreement, that person who is suicidal is mentally ill as others have said. Their coping capacity is overloaded, they are not thinking of only themselves, they just want their pain to stop. They may have even convinced themselves how the world will be a better place with out them in it. That is part of the illness, their view is skewed to everything.
Second I will agree with the drug addiction comparison. In fact its no wonder the two often go hand in hand, but unlike a drug abuser someone with depression had no choice in the matter. There we no needle, bottle, or dealer they had to turn to to get it, it was thrust upon them. But once you have either one, realize it and get past whatever low point caused them to get there and come out of it, it is a lifetime battle to ward against it. You can't just shake it off like its a bad cold and be done with it.
So it is less a selfishness, than it a person that has lost their bearing so badly they feel they are lost forever. As the OP said, reach out to that person if you care for them. Don't do the usual response and ignore the situation and hope it gets better, or just goes away.
pilotbraden -- you might look into Survivors of Suicide, which is a good resource for folks who get left behind. I have a friend who's involved with it, and it has helped her a lot.
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