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Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter)
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3/18/22 4:12 p.m.

Ok, a lot of this is spread around a couple different posts in a couple different threads but after being asked to write a report about it today at work (and after my acknowledgement that I suck at this sort of stuff, when I responded to Tuna's selfie request) it's beginning to dawn on me that I need to make a better effort as this is going to go on for quite some time (specifically, the need to help people).  With that, I'd like to bring everyone up to speed on where this all started, where we are now, and where I think we might be going from here.

I'm sure Grassroots will want to help again.  I'm sure help from Grassroots will be needed again.  And I'm sure it will be needed in a timely fashion.

So I'd like to put everything in one thread so we can all check in on one page to get what we need. wink

On or about March 1st we accidentally discovered that there were 48 refugees living in Papa.  This was brought to my attention when a school teacher friend of mine made mention that a maintenance man in the building behind her asked for a ball.  When pressed, he stated "we've got over 20-kids in here and not a single one of them has a toy!"

I turned to my keyboard and sent out an SOS locally that got a LOT of attention.  Somehow, everything that followed had us at the center of things.  Donations, collections, and delivery.  By Thursday we had amassed an army, and made our first drop off:




The support was so tremendous we had to start a local FB page in an attempt to get everyone organized (it worked),  Instantly we had over 50 members!



 

Grassroots was very much involved with the donations here, but behind the scenes.  In the "History in the Making" thread I posted the arrival of our guests and the results but never specifically mentioned that some of the donations that made this possible came through our very own GRM PM system (You three know who you are, and we thank you very much).

The building that was housing the refugees was a migrant work facility (think former military barracks) that housed single men while they worked away from home.  The request was made, and the owner accepted the arrival of the workers' immediate family members who all came from an Hungarian speaking region of Ukraine.  Our efforts included getting people settled, the establishment of a working kitchen (one existed, but it only had a coffee maker and a bottle opener in it), doctors visits, and of course the delivery of clothes, bedding, toys, food, and medicine.

Things worked out pretty well, and we learned a lot along the way (trial by fire, really).

While this was happening, we were made aware of another effort in Kisgorbo, Hungary (64kms away).  If you've read this thread then you know that Grassroots Motorsports raised over 2-million Hungarian forint towards the efforts of the residents and the mayor of Kisgorbo to convert an abandoned school into shelter that would house as many as 45 refugees in a town of around 180 people.

When a local international school picked up on what was going on, and found out what we were doing, they started a food drive and brought a truck-load of goodies to send with us when we made our cash delivery.



 

Donations to support that effort are still coming in from GRM members and I'll be transferring the money that does on the 25th of every month.  If this is something you would like to support, simply use the aforementioned PayPal address and write something to the effect of "Kisgorbo" in the notes section.

Cool.

What you may or may not know is that our local guests have almost all but moved on (Papa, not Kisgorbo).  Some found better work in Budapest, some in a neighboring city (Gyor), and some simply were moving further west.  Lacking local direction, Mrs. Hungary and I decided to see who we might know that might be doing what.  It turns out we know some pretty crazy people who are doing some pretty crazy things. 

First up is Petra Szabo, who is the sister of Andrew Szabo.  Andrew runs a charity rallye that goes to Africa every other year (Budapest to Bamako) and as this is something I've followed for many years and even entered myself (scheduled for October of 2022).  Because of that, reaching out to the Szabo family really wasn't difficult.  To get things started, Petra gave us the locations of two facilities housing refugees in Budapest.  The first housed mothers and children, and they were in need of snacks, easy to make meals, and fresh fruit:

 

We delivered over 20kg of fruit, as well as multiple boxes of snacks, juice, milk, sugar, and the like.  The lady in the last picture is the person who runs this shelter and doesn't speak any English.  The first two words out of her mouth were "JESUS CHRIST!!!" when we opened up the back of the truck.  She couldn't say much through her giggles of joy after that.  It was a good feeling (and there's enough healthy and chocolaty snacks in that shed behind her now to feed a child army for MONTHS!). 

Same trip, we also got the location of a student shelter in Budapest.  This is a place that was a hostel but filled itself with 60-beds and opened up to students arriving from Ukraine.

 

Here we delivered a table (not the kid one you see left in the truck), chairs, toasters, kettles, snacks, teas, milk, sugar, salt, and the like.  Everything will go towards helping establish the common areas of the facility.  Here too, people are transiting in and through.  Sometimes on to other locations. 

Also working in the background was the expected arrival of 60-more refugees in Papa.  No one had any details of when or where, but we took in more donations so we would be ready.  Today the Hungarian Order of Malta has announced that they are going to refocus their efforts locally in anticipation of those arrivals.  As they are far more organized and able to offer long term assistance than we are, we made the following donation to them this morning:

 

This donation consisted of 66 jars of baby food, 30 boxes of baby formula, 37 packets of kid squeezable fruit pure, 17 packages (big) of diapers, and a crap-load (pun intended) of baby wipes (see?  I'm evolving.  That was an "inventory" laugh )

And that catches us up to "where we are".

So where are we going from here?

Well, a lot of directions at once apparently:

First up we should talk about Petra:  It turns out that she's doing laundry service (every other day) for four shelters in Budapest and it's becoming very cost prohibitive for her.  She spends about 10,000-15,000 forint a week (about $30-$45) and helps between 60 and 80 people (this is in addition to the washing machines they already have in their facilities, which run near-constantly).  Mrs. Hungary and I set up donations and collected enough money to keep her in operation until about May 11th.

 





We'll be revisiting this one as we get closer to the drop dead date on that one.  Laundry is one of those things that seems so simple it often gets overlooked, but so beneficial to the recipients of the service.

Second, we have to re-visit Andrew Szabo.  This crazy guy does things like dig wells in Africa and leads charity rallyes to Sierre Leone.  So it was no surprise to me that he has two projects going in Ukraine right now.  Both are at temporary refugee shelters.  He's got a site started, but it's very rudimentary yet.  You can visit it here:  http://www.give.helpukrainenow.eu/

Anyhoo, he gave Mrs. Hungary and I a list of needed medical supplies.  We've started buying stuff and just filled our third box. 



 

We're expecting a fourth box to arrive on Sunday from a local friend who is also purchasing items.  For our part this is being done through donations we've received from immediate family (just under $1000).  It's most certainly one effort that we would have loved to have included GRM on, but the short deadline made it next to impossible to organize in time.  We're dropping this off in Budapest on Monday, and by Thursday Andrew will have it across the Ukrainian border and will be driving it to the temporary refugee centers where it needs to go.

Have I mentioned that Andrew is basically Hungary's version of GRM?  His motto for his African adventures is "Anyone.  By any means" and he means it.  If you enter the rallye in an ambulance, the dude will waive your entry fees as long as you promise to deliver it in working condition to the locals when you're done.  I'm hoping for more help requests from him.

And currently last but not least is this post I just made on a FB page where Hungarians offer to help those arriving with pets:

 

Pets are a big focus for Mrs. Hungary and I, and have been long before this started.  Now that we've latched on with someone who is able to get medical supplies across the border, we're hoping to do the same thing with pet food and pet medical supplies.

So the big question.  If all this has been going on, why the big catchup now?

Well, I'm learning that there's always going to be "one more effort" and that we can't always count on a stable situation (except maybe, Kisgorbo) on which we can focus our sole attention.  With that we thought it a better idea to have a couple places where we feel like we can do a lot of good.  Currently Petra and Andrew are our primary focus for such opportunities, but we get the feeling that others will be drawn to our circle the same way they were.  And if they are, and if we're going to be able to collect donations to help them out, then we'll need to do so with as little lead time as possible.

It's my hope that when an opportunity arises, we can make one post in one place and drive one action to meet it.  From there, we can all check back in on one thread to get updates on how the results played out, or see if there are any questions.

So here we go everyone.  I think this is going to be bigger than we thought it was going to be when we started.  But I think we're up to the challenge, and I think we can do some more real good somewhere.

Cheers

-Bill

wheelsmithy (Joe-with-an-L)
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3/18/22 4:28 p.m.

heart

matthewmcl
matthewmcl Dork
3/18/22 4:31 p.m.

How about we donate to your paypal as HB Relief Efforts and trust you to put it where it needs to go when it needs to get there?

stuart in mn
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3/18/22 4:39 p.m.
matthewmcl said:

How about we donate to your paypal as HB Relief Efforts and trust you to put it where it needs to go when it needs to get there?

I like this idea, although it puts more responsibility on you...let us know if it's okay.

We're all very proud of you.  yes

Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter)
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3/18/22 4:44 p.m.
stuart in mn said:
matthewmcl said:

How about we donate to your paypal as HB Relief Efforts and trust you to put it where it needs to go when it needs to get there?

I like this idea, although it puts more responsibility on you...let us know if it's okay.

We're all very proud of you.  yes

That would be 100% perfectly ok! 

Just make sure to include your GMR Screen Name so I can do my best to track where it went and report back to you.

Thanks guys!

DarkMonohue
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3/18/22 4:49 p.m.
matthewmcl said:

How about we donate to your paypal as HB Relief Efforts and trust you to put it where it needs to go when it needs to get there?

I'm in. Some things require opinions and consensus. This ain't one of them.

stuart in mn
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3/18/22 6:49 p.m.
Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter) said:
That would be 100% perfectly ok! 

Just make sure to include your GMR Screen Name so I can do my best to track where it went and report back to you.

Thanks guys!

Done!  angel

stuart in mn
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3/21/22 12:04 p.m.

This discussion should stay on the first page, so here's a friendly bump.  

bmw88rider
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3/21/22 1:45 p.m.

Keep up the great work Bill. Just sent another donation for you to use how you seem fit. 

Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter)
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3/21/22 2:02 p.m.

You guys are awesome.  Sorry it's been a few days, here's an update:

Ok, so we dropped off the list of needed medical items at a couple different pharmacies and medical supply stores and by Saturday we had three boxes in our living room.  We spent a good portion of the morning doing inventory for quick sorting at its destination:

 

On Sunday we had a big get together with the other leaders and people taking care of donations.  Our goal was to move as much stuff as possible.  Katie was heading to Kisgorbo on Monday (today) so we filled her car with their list of needs, Lise was heading to the Order of Malta so we sent two vehicles that way, and I was headed to Budapest (2.5 hour drive) so we filled the truck as much as we could.  My stops would be to Andrew Szabo for the medical supplies, David Kovacs (a pastor in a very poor district of Budapest) to drop off baby formula and diapers (he meets Refugees as they come off the train), and to that hostel turned student shelter to drop off TP and snack food items.  Here's the quick and dirty:

 

That's Katie with the Hungarlings back there with the medical boxes.  She also went around and collected what she could (difficult without prescriptions, but we're working on that).  We were even able to score some insulin!!!!  That made my day.  One lady at the event used her own prescription to fill what she could and donate it.  Other items include things like bandages, burn treatment, wound care, betadine and other wound dressings, syringes (hundreds of them), as well as basic medication and pain killers.

Andrew Szabo is going to take the stuff as far as Lviv, but is looking for someone to get it the rest of the way to Zhytomyr (about 2-hours from Kyiv).  It was kind of funny when we met at his office.  I had told him I was bringing "four boxes" but I guess I never mentioned the size?  yeah, his little car couldn't carry a single one of the darn things so I drove them directly to his house.  Which works out better, as that insulin needs to stay in the fridge.

Good times.

 

David Kovacs (ko-vach) was next.  He's a cousin of the English speaking teacher that originally found the building housing the refugees in Papa.  He's been taking donations to the train stations to meet people as they get off the trains.  Much like they arrived here, most aren't bringing much with them.  He's got a small collection of stuff, and we added to it a bit but here's a quick idea of what his church and neighborhood look like

 


Last stop of the day was at a student shelter in Budapest.  They've got a list out that they keep updated as a google document.  We were able to bring them lots of stuff from it (breakfast bars, jam, duct tape, chalk, trash bags, that sort of thing).  When I dropped it off, I actually got to talk to the guy at the front counter.  He's the guy that helped me unload last time too.  It turns out he was from Boston and was just in Budapest visiting for the weekend when the invasion started so he decided to stay.  Crazy.  He also mentioned that they hadn't received any donations in a while and he was getting worried that this might be a "big up front effort, but no follow through".  He was pretty happy to get the delivery.

Anyhoo, sorry if this is a bit choppy.  I'm beat.  I do have an update from Kisgorbo, so once I pull photos from my phone I'll update you guys on that as well.


 

Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter)
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3/21/22 2:21 p.m.

Here's a post straight from the Kisgorbo shelter page (shamelessly google translated).  Sounds like they've learned a lot this past week:

Mayor Kozma said:

Again from the front line of Körb ői..
Is it enough to help in everything? Nope.
There is always a helping hand in everything!
How many women, children, men, so many stories, fate, requests, problems, discussions. Toothache, fever, abandoned passport, how to get to Kisgörb ő from the Ukrainian-Polish border, slippers, -2.5 reading glasses, shared cooking, programs, high blood pressure .... so is LIFE.
 I am happy to announce that we are 21st! On Friday evening at 10 o'clock Szvetlana and her daughter arrived to us, thanks to Barbara Kis-Tamas for the ride in Pest, and today I went to Keszthely on the train for Angelika and a small but tired, cute, 3-year-old son.  Red suitcase, small backpack, sinking phone, empty, quick soup glass in hand... It's been a long time since I've seen such touching moments when they arrived and the others surrounded and greeted. This building has never seen anything like this before. But this wouldn't work alone, so in the last 3 days you have supported our work a lot again. Simon Gábor E.v. welds a swing stand for kids, Mária Zsanett Németh collects toys around. We already put it in concrete with Attila Ungár, Vászja, one of our refugees painted it. Of course, we drank a good Csáj in the meantime. They ask for work, they feel useless, they expect help from me. I am waiting for your help.
That's why every Tuesday and Saturday morning, I called a very kind interpreter called Gabriella Kuszka who his partner is welcome to bring and take Heiner Höving . Why is this important ? Because if someone would like to offer them a job, after a preliminary consultation, they can do it only locally, these days. We don't have the capacity to carry them to 100. Lápiember Szabó János also finished drywall in the new bathroom...
I visited Katalin Szegedi and they made us the first word Kökény Alajos sal 30 custom illustrations for our walls. How is this for what? -It’s okay if you don’t understand, if you become a refugee and you lie quietly on the bed, staring at the wall, then a little adventure in the fairy tale empire will be nice. When your father or husband is fighting for their homeland 1400 km from here.
Almost every day Beáta Ságiné Szabó with my little team of Beáta Ságiné Szabó they are collecting clothes and donations to help me out. They are the helpers of Zalaaszentgrót family. They also understand what this is about! We also do systematic sessions. Gisela Keilbach for example, walked the dog with them to Kishegy, my father Ferenc Kozma dealt with the children for about 3 hours. As a former physics teacher, he stunned the kind, but refugee audience with 100 small experiences. And that's how it goes every week. Thankful for him, already... Can't lay in bed all day. Csilla Sebestyén and the wife of Ildikó cooked them a langos on Saturday evening.
This is how I thank Katona Andrea for the warm meals last week. I hope we can count on it in the future too! This morning the bakery was provided by Harald Kempkens Thanks to Háziorvos Gyenesdiás for the blood sugar measurement and the sorting of the non-veg medicines. Dr. Barta for Rita.
This is the second time they came - the dear members of the Roma Local Government of Zalabéri brought a donation, live under Szandra Ignácz Today we ate the chocolate cake with the children that came from the Pope Tina Singstad and her husband brought, of course they didn’t come with an empty car either. Viva Norway... Thank you for the bouquet!
We have gained a lot of experience. For example, you can't put 3 different families in a net of 8 people. Old, young, children, men, women are mixed at this time. I need peace, intimacy, privacy. That's why I invented that the larger products should be chosen in two, this is a huge help for us Szabó-Hajós Tímea Szabó Dániel Dániel Varga and Hertelendy Gy őz ző. This place will make you much more comfortable and trustworthy. Believe it, it's a reason.
And bath tub for what? Could I just say... but you are not here, not sure you know the circumstances. We do not have separate showers, you can even get to the toilet in the shower. There is no dressing room, there are no hangers, no closets in the bathroom, this was a school, not a HOTEL or a dormitory. I hope this explanation is enough. That’s why I thank Csilla Sebestyén, Kolping from the lowerók, SH Record, Hungarian Erzsébet, Palavics Alice, Kehida Thermal, Purger Zsuska.
Today I was lucky to meet Szűcs Mariann from whom we got the new dryer. He was sensitive,  how good the donation was placed. It wasn’t packed for 5 minutes, that’s all I needed. Thank you.
 In the afternoon, 2 Germans, Hajrá Balaton Basti and an Austrian man, and they will hand over 2-3 boxes of products precisely mentioned in our attention. Arriving tomorrow morning Katie Harrell Wood who have collected a lot for us so far, and are tireless, kind, and sensitive. Come on down! We are waiting for you. Finally with respect thank you Linda Bramhall from USA Georgia for the outdoor ping-pong table she sends to the kids. Amazing, isn't it? I just had to say. She likes table tennis anyway.
Life doesn't stop... Reality is among us, not on TV. The more we help, the better we sleep. I have a good sleep. Good night !!
Mayor Gábor Kozma

Here are the pictures that accompanied the post:

His post along with seeing the sheetrock going up really makes me feel good about us giving to this place.  It looks like they're identifying issues and adapting on the fly, and to me that really tells me that the people involved do care about what they're doing.  Plus it looks like the beginnings of a swing set going up there in the 4th picture along with the wall hangings there in the 2nd.  That's the sort of thing you don't do in a "fire and forget" sort of effort. 

To you guys that have just donated:  I've got your donations and will send them on the 25th as promised with a note saying it was from GRM.  I bet Mayor Kozma will enjoy seeing the follow up, knowing we're all still in it with him.

They did send an update list of needs from the Kisgorbo shelter:

 

A lot of the easy stuff was sent with Katie today when she took her car for a visit (razors, combs, deodorant, lotion, etc).  The bigger stuff we're trying to get specifics on.  The basketball stuff for instance.  Do they want simple decathlon backboards that you can wheel around and fill the base with water?  Or something to hang in that gigantic gym of theirs?  Once we get those answers we can step up and help out if it's possible.

We'll keep you all posted as things progress.  Well done though everyone.

Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter)
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3/21/22 2:42 p.m.

New Effort:

I'm branching out more with my network.  This isn't something I have a lot of control over these days.  Even on social media, the people doing the work are meeting other people in the industry (for lack of a better term) and we're all getting connected on some level.  This happened Saturday night when I was introduced to a woman named Viki Kindrusz, who is doing work near the border.  She made me aware of a town called Beregszasz in western Ukraine that is in need of a generator.

Unfortunately after some googling, I decided that this was an effort I could probably not help out with.  To buy the generator, we would need to raise more money than we raised for Kisgorbo, and that was an incredible effort by everyone involved.

So I went about my business, but kept it in the back of my head.

Today when I met with David Kovacs, he TOO mentioned the generator.  The mayor of Beregszasz was in contact with him as well.  The issue is that the mayor is worried about losing their electricity supply.  If (or when) they lose electricity, then everyone in the area loses running water as pumping is required.  To hedge against the issue, the mayor wanted to install a 20-kilowatt generator.

Now, alone this was too big of a task to take on.  A 20kw generator is over $6000 and then there's the issue of shipping it across the border and to the mayor (David Kovacs has some horror stories about people "losing" their passports on their way west).  Needless to say, a GRM delivery in the family 4-Runner wouldn't be a possibility.

But I think with David's help, we can make this happen.  He is going to start collecting donations from areas of operation and he has some other people in the area that are going to take donations as well.  I'm going to open up the donation channel locally and on here on GRM.  David says that from there, he can coordinate transportation with some of the people he's established a working relationship with and that they could get the generator the last few miles and into town.  In return, I've simply asked for pictures of the reception (as none of us would be able to attend) so we could have something to look at and say "hey we did that!".

David is also going to try to surf some second-hand channels to see if a cheaper (but just as good) unit can be found to help cut the distance to the finish line a bit.

Unlike Kisgorbo, I'm not able to visit and shake hands with the mayor and whatnot so for a visual I shamelessly clipped a shot from a wikipedia page wink  Just like last time, I'll keep the donation channel open for about a week for anyone who wants to get in on the action.  From there I do have another trip to Budapest planned for the 31st of this month.  I can hand the money directly to David Kovacs to complete our end of the bridge.  After that it's just fingers crossed that his side can pull in the rest.

Good times.

Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter)
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3/21/22 2:46 p.m.
VikkiD said:

hi guys! i found your forum accidentally.

I'm Vikki and i live in Ukraine.

I want to say "Thank you!" for your help.

it's so sad what's happening with my country and ukrainian people.

Together we're very powerful

Hello Vikki, and welcome to GRM! 

I think you'll find that this community is absolutely "second to none" when it comes to getting together and helping each other out.  We're and odd bunch, but somehow it works.

I noticed in your profile you mentioned "racing".  What do you race and where do you race it?  Can you tell us a little about where you're from?

 

Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter)
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3/21/22 3:40 p.m.
VikkiD said:

In reply to Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter) :

Thank you Bill

i've noticed it

i'll tell about me for sure

I'm from Dnipro city -it's eastern region of Ukraine. And now i'm here.

I've been to Budapest in 2017 - it's incredibly beautiful city. i liked it very much.

Awesome! 

Budapest is a favorite of ours as well.  I'm originally from Seattle, and Mrs. Hungary (my wife) is from Texas.  We lived here for 4 years between 2009 and 2013.  We liked it so much we came back in 2019 and are going to try to stay as long as we can.  Our town (Papa) is about half way between Vienna and Budapest and is home to an international C-17 program that I'm a member of.  We do mostly humanitarian and peacekeeping work around Europe, the middle east, and Africa.

It's great meeting you, and hopefully we'll see you more around the forum!

Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter)
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3/21/22 4:04 p.m.

 

 

There they go!!!! surprise

 

 

 

 

That's our medical supplies he's sending!  And he's already got a guy with a Ford Transit to pick up that last leg!  Would you look at how close to Kyiv that stuff is going????

 

We did that!  We did that!!!!!!

 

Holy crap I can't stop shaking right now.

stuart in mn
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3/21/22 4:09 p.m.

Just saw on the TV that Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher have raised $34 million for Ukraine relief.   yes

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
3/21/22 4:17 p.m.

In reply to Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter) :

Nice job, Bill. A few involuntary tears were shed here in South Carolina at those pictures.

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
3/21/22 4:29 p.m.
VikkiD said:

In reply to Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter) :

Thank you Bill

i've noticed it

i'll tell about me for sure

I'm from Dnipro city -it's eastern region of Ukraine. And now i'm here.

I've been to Budapest in 2017 - it's incredibly beautiful city. i liked it very much.

Hey Vikki, I am glad you found this thread. Bill is our hero for doing this work. Please know your people and your country are daily in our prayers in my home.

szeis4cookie (Forum Supporter)
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3/21/22 10:14 p.m.

Bumping this thread for visibility. Bill, this is incredible - you should hopefully see a small contribution for the generator from me. 

84FSP
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3/21/22 11:30 p.m.

This is the work of people who care.  Some would say this is those that do the Lord's work but I don't want to get into that. Thank you Bill for being the face of caring folks everywhere.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
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3/21/22 11:53 p.m.
tuna55 said:
VikkiD said:

In reply to Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter) :

Thank you Bill

i've noticed it

i'll tell about me for sure

I'm from Dnipro city -it's eastern region of Ukraine. And now i'm here.

I've been to Budapest in 2017 - it's incredibly beautiful city. i liked it very much.

Hey Vikki, I am glad you found this thread. Bill is our hero for doing this work. Please know your people and your country are daily in our prayers in my home.

Welcome, Vikki!  We're all hurting in our hearts for Ukraine.  Sending all of you love and prayers.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
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3/22/22 12:08 a.m.

Bill.... I just .... wow.  You're a berkeleying saint.

AClockworkGarage
AClockworkGarage Dork
3/22/22 3:34 a.m.

Bill, You are being the person Mr Rogers always knew you could be.

DarkMonohue
DarkMonohue HalfDork
3/22/22 4:17 p.m.

I'll find a little more scratch tonight and fire it off.

Слава Україні.

Hungary Bill (Forum Supporter)
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3/22/22 4:25 p.m.
stuart in mn said:

Just saw on the TV that Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher have raised $34 million for Ukraine relief.   yes

That is NUTS!  I just read that they got a call from President Zelenskyy himself

https://news.sky.com/story/they-inspire-the-world-ukraine-president-holds-video-call-with-mila-kunis-and-ashton-kutcher-12571954

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