afonseca
afonseca New Reader
8/15/12 8:12 p.m.

944 Cup cars might be interesting? http://44cup.com/rules

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
8/15/12 8:28 p.m.

E30 would put us in M3s, wouldn't it? OTOH, that means natural aspiration, and mandatory box flares!!

DustoffDave
DustoffDave HalfDork
8/15/12 8:41 p.m.

What about an 80's/90's DTM? M3s, 190's, Volvo's?

failboat
failboat Dork
8/15/12 9:10 p.m.
DustoffDave wrote: What about an 80's/90's DTM? M3s, 190's, Volvo's?

Dont forget the Cosworth Escort!

TheBootsy
TheBootsy New Reader
8/15/12 9:23 p.m.
failboat wrote: Dont forget the Cosworth Sierra!

Fixed

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
8/15/12 9:27 p.m.
afonseca wrote: 944 Cup cars might be interesting? http://44cup.com/rules

Only the turbo available in game... Basically the same issue as with the E30, have to use the best because what we want isn't available.

RoadRaceDart
RoadRaceDart Reader
8/15/12 9:38 p.m.

'50's roadsters (early Le Mans, Sebring etc). Trans Am (although that's a hard one due to Forza's love of cubic inches )

Hehe...Spec Hummer

Rxbalt
Rxbalt New Reader
8/15/12 10:23 p.m.

In reply to RoadRaceDart :

Hummers only if we can use the front aero. That looks badass!

Actually gonna suggest a vintage stock car series. Smokin Ez (I'm sorry, I never got your forum handle) has a Hudson, Deluxe Coupe, and Bel Air built up, and they're damn fun to drive. Only thing is that they'd have to only have four usable gears, just for accuracy.

Truck/SUV series?

afonseca
afonseca New Reader
8/15/12 11:13 p.m.
LainfordExpress wrote:
afonseca wrote: 944 Cup cars might be interesting? http://44cup.com/rules
Only the turbo available in game... Basically the same issue as with the E30, have to use the best because what we want isn't available.

The 944 Cup series is a bit more flexible than 944 Spec so we can run the turbo in the Super Cup class:

"The purpose of the 944 Cup is an independent race series intended to create an affordable race series for the front engine Porsche that provides for some flexibility and individuality by allowing limited modifications to improve the performance of the cars while maintaining a level playing field by adjusting minimum car weights and maximum power limits."

"There are two 944 Cup classes: (1) Cup Class, and (2) Super Cup Class."

"The 944 Super Cup Class is open to the 944S, 944S2, 951, 951S, and 968 models. "

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Dork
8/15/12 11:26 p.m.
DustoffDave wrote: What about an 80's/90's DTM? M3s, 190's, Volvo's?

This, I like!!!!

Redline
Redline New Reader
8/16/12 3:40 p.m.

Can't do Porche's because too many are too cheap to get the pack ;) Since we have run a successful campaign of B-Spec, the next step up the ametuer/semi pro ladder would be either Spec Miata or WC IT. I think Ford Focus, Honda Civic, etc would be the logical step in the progression. From there we could move to rear wheel drive Spec Miata, then on to WC or Grand Am, what with the Boss 302 and ZL1 out(can you say Forza based Grand Am was a thought with this pair?)

Me, I would love to see a JDM 90's GT300 series. Japanese rear wheel drive, 1992- 2002, 300hp, race weight, race cage, Race trans, race suspension, race tires(245F/265R), all turbo or na. Just my own personal thoughts ;)

afonseca
afonseca New Reader
8/16/12 4:34 p.m.

Oh yea, forgot they were in the car pack. Okay, if Porsche is out then I'm leaning towards the E30 M3 spec or IT-7 suggested earlier.

racerfink
racerfink Dork
8/16/12 4:43 p.m.

The ZL1 isn't in Grand-Am. The regular SS is though. Along with the E92 M3, 370Z, WRX STi, and whatever Porsche they're running this year.

Geekspeed
Geekspeed Reader
8/16/12 10:32 p.m.

Since I want to jump in on the next round, I would prefer the 80s/90s DTM, the 80's B-Spec, or WC IT. I really do not like single make series, personally.

My Xbox live name is Edge of Nerd, btw.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Dork
8/16/12 10:58 p.m.

Why don't we do ATLEAST a short season of IT7. That sounds like a hoot!!!

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
8/16/12 11:03 p.m.
Anti-stance wrote: Why don't we do ATLEAST a short season of IT7. That sounds like a hoot!!!

I'd be up for that, as long as the tracks are all real racetracks, instead of Malibu Grand Prix E36 M3. Slow cars fast. Search SCCA/NASA rule books for minimum distance. Ignore "real" lap times, we've already discovered that Forza is an alternate reality, I'd just rather the cars "feel" like something based in reality.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Dork
8/16/12 11:10 p.m.

I am still interested in doing drag tires for realistic tire wear for a future series, although IT7 is really a sprint race in real life so it wouldn't fit.

Hell maybe we could even do some 10 lap double header races.

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
8/17/12 10:33 a.m.
Geekspeed wrote: Since I want to jump in on the next round, I would prefer the 80s/90s DTM, the 80's B-Spec, or WC IT. I really do not like single make series, personally. My Xbox live name is Edge of Nerd, btw.

The problem with multimake series is that significant balancing is required, see the B Spec cars... none of them have the same PI. It took over a week of college student time (which is like a month of working adult time) to develop those builds. We could take the easy way, like I did with Trans-Am, and make some mandatory parts choices (like tires) which keeps some of the really crazy builds out.

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
8/17/12 4:31 p.m.

So, by my count, Spec IT7 is winning, so it'll be that or Trans-Am. If I'm organizing is shindig, it'll be a sorter series weeks wise, but be two races a night.

I'll be on tonight, running Trans-Am and IT7 for fun around 8:00pm. I'll try to post a build of my 7 for those interested and will make a new thread for the series.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
8/17/12 4:35 p.m.
Geekspeed wrote: Since I want to jump in on the next round, I would prefer the 80s/90s DTM, the 80's B-Spec, or WC IT. I really do not like single make series, personally. My Xbox live name is Edge of Nerd, btw.

List updated (post is on p.37).

afonseca
afonseca New Reader
8/17/12 4:53 p.m.
LainfordExpress wrote: So, by my count, Spec IT7 is winning, so it'll be that or Trans-Am. If I'm organizing is shindig, it'll be a sorter series weeks wise, but be two races a night. I'll be on tonight, running Trans-Am and IT7 for fun around 8:00pm. I'll try to post a build of my 7 for those interested and will make a new thread for the series.

That sounds good to me, please let us know when you post the IT7, would like to give it a try.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Dork
8/17/12 5:43 p.m.

I will hop on at 8pm so I can build out an IT7 and maybe give the Cortina another shot.

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
8/17/12 5:44 p.m.

Alright, I'm going with MutantRacing's IT7 build, which I have not yet personally tested:

1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL-SE, C425

Sport Air Filter Sport Exhaust Race Air and Cooling Race Flywheel Race Brakes Sport Suspension Race Anti-Roll Bars Race Cage Race Weight Reduction Sort Clutch Race Differential Race Tires, 225 width Buddy Club P1 Racing QF, 15" Forza Front Aero

If you don't own the rx7, and are too cheap to get (or have a legitimate reason), build something 80s and RWD that you can do all these mods to and tune to C425 with the flywheel or adding/subtracting exhaust and/or intake choices.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Dork
8/17/12 5:48 p.m.

Werd, I may get on after eating.

Geekspeed
Geekspeed Reader
8/17/12 6:33 p.m.

Hmmm... Well, I would vote for Trans Am, but I would run IT7 if that is the way the vote goes.

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