I know I'm complaining about a fictional show with zombies in it. No spoilers in this post, though.
One thing that aggravated me watching an episode was seeing somebody start a fire with gasoline. I don't think anybody is making any more of that stuff, they should be hoarding it as best as they can.
That brings up another point. Besides corporate sponsorship by a car company for the show, why have they not gathered up all of the diesel fuel vehicles they can and started producing biofuel?
As an avid follower of the show, I will chime in...
The gas thing? meh...using a cupfull of the stuff to light a fire is passable (kind of). But with regards to why arent they producing biofuel? Just about any effort to create a permanent dwelling that wasnt already in place pre-apocalypse has turned out to be futile. Almost everything that the characters have built has been overun - either by sheer stupidity of the characters (a gripe that could spawn its own thread) or by sheer mass of zombies. Its a matter of infrastructure if you ask me.
My plan would be to find a logistics park - the kind with hundreds of shipping containers that are often found near railroad intersections. Those places will typically have fork lifts capable of moving the containers. Create a perimeter as big as you wish. Containers can make decent dwellings as well. Once you have shelter and security in place, additional operations can ensue - I.E. biofuel creation, maybe some kind of blacksmithing (think western america frontier type) for tool making etc. Make the place big enough and you can begin growing crops/livestock. Create enough biofuel and you can generate electricity (scavenging a solar array would work well for this too)...the list goes on. But first you need a secure location. A wall of containers 2 high keeps out the undead, and the living as well.
They typically spend zero minutes looking for or taking care of their water supply. That would be something that would be a constant struggle. When will they run out of bullets?
MY question is, why aren't they using, what, a COUPLE gallons of gas (or any other flamable liquid) through a berkeleying super soaker and a lighter to take care of that goddamned "horde" at the fence, instead of poking them with sticks...and almost getting killed...and then wasting a berkeley-ton of ammo on them?
In reply to poopshovel:
You don't light zombies on fire cause then you have a flaming horde of zombies coming after you. Fire doesn't stop zombies quickly.
If they follow the cannon of the book, they haven't really so far, but the group doesn't really get their E36 M3 together until they make it to the self sustained (solar) walled off community in the D.C. burbs. However, they meet a new protagonist that makes the Governor look like a cream puff. Talk about dragging a story arc on forever though...
In the books they kind of fruitlessly try to make a go at it in the prison and the Governor ruins their plans/hard work kind of like the way the show has been progressing and what next weeks mid-season finally previews suggest is going to happen.
I've taken some of the show too seriously, have vocalized a "come on!" or "really?!?!" a time or two, but I mostly try to just enjoy the fiction for what it is, fictional entertainment.
The last thing I'd be driving is a tank that get's ~10 gallons per mile. There have been plenty of multifuel Duce & 1/2 and 5 tons setting around that I'd be using when I could for supply runs. You aren't going to high-center one of those on a pile of greasy zombie corpses.
Further more, sanitation, everyone is always covered with goo, blood, and brains. Faces, in their mouths, eyes, ect. I'd be in riot armor with a face shield anytime I was on a supply run or patrolling the wall, and use soap occasionally.
Set up some real area-denial traps/obstacles around the perimeter for cripes sake. You can't tell me there's not a back hoe in the area and someone that has a clue how to use it in the group, a trench around the perimeter, and fall some of those trees in the woods, make some obstacles to funnel the walkers where you can keep them off of that, for some reason, supper flimsy chain link. Some of my gardening efforts would be going into hedgerows outside of the fence too, they were pretty effective in WWII, I think they could handle some slow moving decaying walkers.
My biggest "come-on!" moment was the "raining zombies" scene fist of this season. That was the best stocked post apocalypse grocery store in any dystopian story I've read or seen. How long had walkers been on that roof? Alcoholic dude breathes on that liquor shelf and it falls on him, then the walkers start randomly falling through the roof?
I still watch it, almost religiously, I'm about 4 months behind on the graphic novel, and prefer the story line, character development/roles in the books over the television show.
the head poking is actually a pretty solid tactic - efficient, low effort/high success rate, requires few resources etc. The problem is that it is time consuming. A slit in the fence about shoulder high, just wide enough for a chainsaw bar to fit through would be ideal 
...then again, theres probably not a lot of 2 cycle oil floating around.
I always did think Michon's sword was easily the best weapon to have of all the characters, since shes essentially exploiting all the benefits of the poke method outlined above. Though Daryl's crossbow is a close second, if only it werent for the long cycle time.
I haven't watched the last two seasons of the show, because of the lack of canon to the book. IDK if I will.
Pssst...guys- Zombies are not real.
Streetwiseguy wrote: Pssst...guys- Zombies are not real.
You clearly don't pay attention to Florida.
Streetwiseguy wrote: Pssst...guys- Zombies are not real.
Psst...theres an entire entertainment genre called fiction. Its fun, and only exists for the purposes of being fun.
Meh, I'm glad I quit watching that show after season one.
Hope this isn't a spoiler... but it might be (I wll try to be nonspecific as to help not be a spoiler):
How come when they went to get meds from the vet, they got just what they needed.. and left with more than half empty backpacks... leaving tons of medications/supplies there? why not get it all?
It's been a couple years now, they are still finding good gas? Bugs me when they start a car that's been sitting for 2 years, Battery dead? right.....
Another reason to save the manuals, push starts!
overall I still really like the show, so I try not to let the tech bits bother me. You can pick apart any movie or TV show if you want to bad enough.
In the first season when they had that POS camper I kept thinking "why not just drop by the closest Prevost dealership, find keys in the office and have a brand new rig that runs diesel?"
Then grab a halftrack, build some outriggers with hydraulic or electric motors to swing some heavy duty chain, add a .50 cal in the bed and take nice slow cruises around the countryside and wipe out the biters. The real question would be what type of music to play while you are doing it.
I have never read the books, but have enjoyed the show except for parts of season 2. What I don't get is why some folks, either the Governor or the main group, or someone in a similar position, doesn't try to start some kind of industrial scale zombie killing method. Once you are walled off, like in Maybury, and you have the time to consider strategy, I think I would work on some kind of an attraction trap as well as mobilize hunting parties. Eventually, the survivors would kill off the zombies, at least regionally, and then your just dealing with the euthenasia issue and reproduction/repopulation.
hobiercr wrote: In the first season when they had that POS camper I kept thinking "why not just drop by the closest Prevost dealership, find keys in the office and have a brand new rig that runs diesel?" Then grab a halftrack, build some outriggers with hydraulic or electric motors to swing some heavy duty chain, add a .50 cal in the bed and take nice slow cruises around the countryside and wipe out the biters. The real question would be what type of music to play while you are doing it.
I think the obvious answer is the "Ride of the Valkyries". Although the opening to "Immigrant Song" may work, too.
I was somehow thinking Lynyrd Skynyrd (or however it's spelled) "Sweet Home Alabama". Seems something a truck fulla zombie killin rednecks would do.
I'd try to build a base at a hydroelectric plant. Water and power!
Gentlemen, the obvious song choice is "The Final Countdown"
Suddenly, I have the opening to "Reign in Blood" in my head.
mndsm wrote: Suddenly, I have the opening to "Reign in Blood" in my head.
Or Spill the Blood.
Either is good.
In regards to zombie disposal, I was thinking the same thing. the Humvees would make outstanding zombie crushers.
An in terms of area-denial: They already saw the zombie pit that was being used by the Maybury encampment, so they know it works. Just dig a hole and set up the noisemaker there.
Streetwiseguy wrote: Pssst...guys- Zombies are not real.
Says the guy who's going to get eaten first.
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