What has 4WD, a V8 and all-wheel steering?

NickD wrote:

dean1484 wrote:

NickD wrote: Amazed that it still works. The Quadrasteer usually packs it in about 6 months after they left the dealership. And now all the components are discontinued, so when it dies, it's dead for good

I think both these statements a not true. I asked the dealer about this and was told the are still stocking parts. And or replacement units. Also I was told that they very rairly saw them in for quadrasteer problems.

I work for GM. Seen three or four come through the door, and another five or six in the wild. Only one encountered one that actually still worked. Eventually that one came in one day and the Quadrasteer had stopped working because the module internally failed. We called around everywhere and GM has discontinued making the module, no one makes a new one and no one, at least not that we could find, rebuilds the module. So now the guy is stuck with an axle that has all these extra parts, like the rack and tie rods, that occasionally go bad and need to be replaced, but don't actually do anything. Last we saw him, he was planning to stab a regular rear axle under it, same with another customer that hasn't worked since he started coming here.

That is completely different from what the local GMC dealer said to me. They think they are great, reliable and according to them, they have parts in stock to service them although dont know about that modal you are talking about. I was more asking about the hard parts.

If I was that guy I would consider a Dana 60 from a 2500. The issue would be the lug pattern but I think that could be sorted. The worst case is get a set of axles made but I would bet that there would be something from the GM parts bin that would work.

Very interesting that there is such a dichotomy of views about the Quadrasteer.

dean1484 wrote:

NickD wrote:

dean1484 wrote:

NickD wrote: Amazed that it still works. The Quadrasteer usually packs it in about 6 months after they left the dealership. And now all the components are discontinued, so when it dies, it's dead for good

I think both these statements a not true. I asked the dealer about this and was told the are still stocking parts. And or replacement units. Also I was told that they very rairly saw them in for quadrasteer problems.

I work for GM. Seen three or four come through the door, and another five or six in the wild. Only one encountered one that actually still worked. Eventually that one came in one day and the Quadrasteer had stopped working because the module internally failed. We called around everywhere and GM has discontinued making the module, no one makes a new one and no one, at least not that we could find, rebuilds the module. So now the guy is stuck with an axle that has all these extra parts, like the rack and tie rods, that occasionally go bad and need to be replaced, but don't actually do anything. Last we saw him, he was planning to stab a regular rear axle under it, same with another customer that hasn't worked since he started coming here.

That is completely different from what the local GMC dealer said to me. They think they are great, reliable and according to them, they have parts in stock to service them although dont know about that modal you are talking about. I was more asking about the hard parts. If I was that guy I would consider a Dana 60 from a 2500. The issue would be the lug pattern but I think that could be sorted. The worst case is get a set of axles made but I would bet that there would be something from the GM parts bin that would work. Very interesting that there is such a dichotomy of views about the Quadrasteer.

Where are you located? Could have something to do with me living in NY, where the salt and snow murders the unobtanium electronic bits.

And his was a 2500 Quadrasteer (Which I didn't even realize existed until I saw his. Every other one I saw was a 1500), so a regular 2500HD rear axle was what he was planning to get, unless the Quadrasteer had some unique gear ration (which I don't think it did, but then again, this is GM we are talking about, so it's possible)

In reply to NickD:

No offense, but I think you live in a weird area altogether. I've never seen a 2.4 have any mechanical engine problems, for example, and I have quite a few customers with them.

I've experienced this kind of weird regionality firsthand. I worked for one company for five years, never once saw an intake failure on a 5.0/5.7, 3800, or 3100/3400. (I did do one 4.3, in a ZR2, which was fun) Came to my current place, we were doing 2-3 a week, and we bothered to stock the intake and valve cover sets for the 5.0/5.7 and 3100/3400. And that's in the same city.

I am in Massachusetts. About 20 miles west of Boston.

Knurled wrote: In reply to NickD: I've experienced this kind of weird regionality firsthand. I worked for one company for five years, never once saw an intake failure on a 5.0/5.7, 3800, or 3100/3400. (I did do one 4.3, in a ZR2, which was fun) Came to my current place, we were doing 2-3 a week, and we bothered to stock the intake and valve cover sets for the 5.0/5.7 and 3100/3400. And that's in the same *city*.

If you worked in a shop that didn't fix GM intake manifolds for the last couple of decades, you worked in a shop with no GM driving customers.

Knurled wrote: In reply to NickD: No offense, but I think you live in a weird area altogether. I've never seen a 2.4 have any mechanical engine problems, for example, and I have quite a few customers with them.

Or I live in a normal area and you live in a weird area. Ah-hah, what then? The 2.4L oil consumption and timing chains in Equinoxes and Terrains is pretty well-documented. GM has special-coveraged them until doomsday