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93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
2/26/20 5:41 p.m.

I am not going to lie. I am a little nervous about it. My wife is due in June and works as a teacher so if it starts spreading in the US I will start to be worried.

WonkoTheSane
WonkoTheSane SuperDork
2/26/20 8:17 p.m.

Doesn't anyone read the book anymore?  It says it right on the cover in large, reassuring print:

 

mtn
mtn MegaDork
2/26/20 8:21 p.m.
RX Reven' said:

In reply to mtn :

Hi mtn,

Good luck with next Monday’s delivery…I’m super happy for you two.

My wife and I needed a C-Section with our second daughter as she was in a Frank Breach position.

The doctors’ let me scrub up and watch. I’m not a tough guy and yet nothing grossed me out so I recommend you participate as much as possible.

Doctor – Hey, do you want to see one of her ovaries?

Me – Is it safe?

Doctor – Absolutely.

Me – OK then.

Mrs. RX Reven’ – What are you guys doing down there (she can’t see around the tent made out of sheets).

Me – Honey, you really are beautiful on the inside.

Doctor – Hehehe, stop man, you’re going to make me mess up.

I stayed by my wife’s head the first time we did this (emergency c section after two hours of pushing). This time I’m gonna ask to see the operation, as it’s planned and, coming from a family of nurses, doctors, veterinarians, and having had my share of injuries before, I’m not queasy. I will be using that line!!!

mtn
mtn MegaDork
2/26/20 8:22 p.m.
Fueled by Caffeine said:

In reply to mtn :

Best of luck to you and your wife.  As red green says. " I'm pulling for ya, we're all in this together. "

Thanks Russ! I’ll be sure to keep my stick on the ice too. 

Wait, what were we talking about?

03Panther
03Panther Reader
2/26/20 9:28 p.m.

In reply to Gingerbeardman :

Damn straight I'm "biased" when I know that poverty, food insecurity, sexism, racism, etc. affect far too many people in our country, let alone the world.

It's not "biased" to recognize that my former employer would willingly buy pills to get my dick hard, but deny my wife birth-control because a for-profit CORPORATION somehow can have a "religious" belief.

If you can explain how a legal entity created specifically to separate personal liability from corporate liability, can have a human religious belief, when it's sole goal and purpose is to mine, process, package and sell bentonite...then I might be willing to reconsider.

If you think that's politics, then you recognize that ALL of human interaction is politics and not just the election cycle.

I don't for a minute believe that the gov or corporations have your, mine or anybody else's best interests in mind. Neither do I believe that anybody will come up with a cure for ANY disease when they can milk our wallets dry for a treatment. That's not how this world works.

It's bloody foolish to think that a pandemic can't happen, as if we've "scienced" our way out of problems. We can't even solve some of humanity's basic problems, yet a bunch of first-world car-guys seem to think that showing concern for an infectious virus with a higher-than-average fatality rate is just fear-mongering...not a biological/evolutionary response to disease. Revulsion and disgust are known psychological responses that instinctively protect us from potentially deadly things.

Just because it hasn't spread here YET, doesn't mean it's not something to take concern with and prepare for. And god forbid anybody on this forum catch it and die, because there are more than a few mouthpieces posting on this board who should possibly regret their antagonistic position.

Somebody has a bad day and asks for support? We're all over that.

Somebody is worried about a disease that's spreading faster than Spanish Flu? BIG CRY-BABY SCAREDY-CAT!

I don't understand people who claim to be rational, but have zero empathy for something THEY deem to be unimportant. So you can take YOUR politics and tuck it back in the dark crevice from which you excavated it.

Lighten up, Frances.

Take a chill, neighbor. If your panties bunch much tighter, you're gonna stroke-out.

 

volvoclearinghouse
volvoclearinghouse PowerDork
2/27/20 6:20 a.m.

I heard the best advice in a song on the radio this morning:

"Shut off the news and build a garden."

Oh and NPR had some good, common sense ideas, too:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/26/809650625/a-guide-how-to-prepare-your-home-for-coronavirus

Mrs. VCH and I were discussing it last night.  I don't believe in going "full prepper" because, mostly, that seems to involve buying a bunch of E36 M3 you'll never use.  Instead, simply stock up on regular use items, stuff you'll use anyway, and make sure you've got 2-4 weeks worth of supply of critical items at home.  This is just a generally good idea anyway, IMO- there could be any number of reasons we might all need to shelter-in-place for a while, not just a virus.  Think about calories first, but also nutrition.  So you need 2000 calories per person per day, but also enough fruits and veggies in some stable form to last.  Dried, canned, or frozen.  Nuts, beans, canned fish- all good, calorie dense foods.  A bag of rice and other grains too for variety.  Dried pasta.  And some way to make sure you have water.  Buying bottled water is a pain, and wasteful, and takes up space.  We can collect rainwater and filter it, and have a gas gennie to run the well pump if needed.  

nderwater
nderwater UltimaDork
2/27/20 7:49 a.m.

Thank you, CDC, for this piece of comedy gold:

Justjim75
Justjim75 Dork
2/27/20 8:06 a.m.

Yall keep giving him advice on how to avoid the virus when he has said more than once that is not his concern

Keep your cars topped off with fuel, make a Costco run for toilet paper and other supplies that wont go bad that you use regularly.   Canned and frozen foods, etc and get a few cases of bottled water and you should be good.  Ammo isnt a bad idea, but i just like shooting my guns and its REALLY cheap right now 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
2/27/20 8:14 a.m.
nderwater said:

Thank you, CDC, for this piece of comedy gold:

I see the ZAPPA but no LEMMY.

 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
2/27/20 8:49 a.m.
mad_machine said:
z31maniac said:

I'm more worried about the flu. 

And I'm not worried about the flu. 


Unless you have an auto-immune disease like my girlfriend, there really isn't any reason to panic over it.

I have an auto-immune disease.. and I am not worried about it. 

I only worry about it for her. I came home with a cold last Feb, not even anything too bad. A sick day and the weekend and I was back to normal. 

For her that turned into an upper-respiratory infection that was ~24 hours away from putting her in the hospital. 

karussell
karussell New Reader
2/27/20 8:52 a.m.

As 1766 people are infected in South Korea(As of Feb. 27th), things are getting quite serious here.

The main problem is the SCJ cult - most of the infections are caused by them. Not only they are kinda underground group, they also send 'secret agents' to protestant churches and catholic churches, in order to take control of those churches. They are still refusing to cooperate with the government, and quarantined SCJ members are actively trying to escape. And those 'secret agents' also infected protestant or catholic church members. Plus, they propagate on the streets.

Here in Seoul things are better than Daegu, where the first infected SCJ member were found. But still, people here are preparing for the worst.

Some things I noticed...

  • Masks are sold out, and hard to get one. At Joonggonara(korean Craigslist) people are trying to sell masks for 40$ each. Basically 'I know what I have' moment. No one's buying that one, and the cheap, government provided masks will be available at the post office soon. Until then, people have to line up at the local drug store.
  • Streets are empty. No Chinese tourists, No Japanese tourists. And no commuters. Getting a seat on Seoul Subway Line 2 at rush hour was weird.
  • Supermarket raid is not happening in Seoul. Everyone is ordering at online supermarkets. Delieverymen told me that he has never seen that much boxes until now.
  • All school admissions are delayed at least two weeks.
  • Most of the tests are also canceled.
  • Mass in the Catholic Church is canceled, until the situation gets better - first time in 236 years.
  • Buddhist ceremony is also canceled - first time in 1600 years.
  • Every Gyms are closed.
  • Seoul Sports Complex are also closed until further notice - bad news for Seoul E-Prix.
  • Ministry of Education recommended canceling cram school classes.
  • Eldery people finally learned how to  wash their hands after they go to the toilet.

After the outbreak, my study plan is totally messed up - German language exams(TestDaF) are canceled, German language schools are closed, and more and more countries are blocking Koreans from entering.

I just hope this corona thing to end quickly - so I could start my study at Germany on time.

 

Driven5
Driven5 UltraDork
2/27/20 9:16 a.m.

In addition to a few side comments about it here, I saw a number of people stocking up on bottled water at Costco yesterday. Is this just a reflex reaction for people anymore? It's not like an airborne virus is going to cause widespread natural disasters that render the public utility infrastructure inoperable. 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
2/27/20 9:26 a.m.
Driven5 said:

In addition to a few side comments about it here, I saw a number of people stocking up on bottled water at Costco yesterday. Is this just a reflex reaction for people anymore? It's not like an airborne virus is going to cause widespread natural disasters that render the public utility infrastructure inoperable. 

Just to play Devil's Advocate, if the people responsible for keeping the utilities working are sick............theoretically there could be a problem. 

RevRico
RevRico PowerDork
2/27/20 10:00 a.m.

In reply to nderwater :

my facial hair style is not listed, that means I'm safe, right?

nderwater
nderwater UltimaDork
2/27/20 10:19 a.m.

Haven't you been listening to the news?  NO ONE IS SAFE!!~~!!~!

RX Reven'
RX Reven' SuperDork
2/27/20 10:20 a.m.

In reply to RevRico :

Correct, you’re totally good-to-go.

Do I speak for all when I say the dude with the “toothbrush” style has enormous externally located spherical reproductive organs?

KyAllroad (Jeremy)
KyAllroad (Jeremy) UltimaDork
2/27/20 10:23 a.m.
RevRico said:

In reply to nderwater :

my facial hair style is not listed, that means I'm safe, right?

There needs to be a entry for "Grizzly Adams".

NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
2/27/20 10:29 a.m.

In reply to karussell :

Kinda sitting on pins with a daughter in Korea. She just finished her contract teaching at an English language academy. The school actually shut down because students were not showing up, and then it was mandated.

Her plans are to move into a new apartment this weekend, spend a month relaxing in Korea and then head home for two months before returning to live there permanently.

I would be a lot happier if she were to change her flight home to sooner rather than later.

I guess she could cash in big on the mask thing: She had a bout with pneumonia n December, and since she teaches, she bought the lifetime achievement size pack of mask. She has hundreds of the things in inventory of all colors ( cause had to match outfits)

Pete

 

Edit:

On an unrelated but related note. I used to live in Nigeria where Malaria was a given, and hence did a quick search to put this into perspective. Why is the world not in an equal panic about Malaria?

What is the mortality rate for malaria?
Internationally, malaria is responsible for approximately 1-3 million deaths per year. Of these deaths, the overwhelming majority are in children aged 5 years or younger, and 80-90% of the deaths each year are in rural sub-Saharan Africa. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Justjim75
Justjim75 Dork
2/27/20 10:33 a.m.

In reply to Duke :

At least one of those should be either the Tony Stark or Iron Man

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia Dork
2/27/20 11:33 a.m.
karussell said:

As 1766 people are infected in South Korea(As of Feb. 27th), things are getting quite serious here.

The main problem is the SCJ cult - most of the infections are caused by them. Not only they are kinda underground group, they also send 'secret agents' to protestant churches and catholic churches, in order to take control of those churches. They are still refusing to cooperate with the government, and quarantined SCJ members are actively trying to escape. And those 'secret agents' also infected protestant or catholic church members. Plus, they propagate on the streets.

Here in Seoul things are better than Daegu, where the first infected SCJ member were found. But still, people here are preparing for the worst.

Some things I noticed...

  • Masks are sold out, and hard to get one. At Joonggonara(korean Craigslist) people are trying to sell masks for 40$ each. Basically 'I know what I have' moment. No one's buying that one, and the cheap, government provided masks will be available at the post office soon. Until then, people have to line up at the local drug store.
  • Streets are empty. No Chinese tourists, No Japanese tourists. And no commuters. Getting a seat on Seoul Subway Line 2 at rush hour was weird.
  • Supermarket raid is not happening in Seoul. Everyone is ordering at online supermarkets. Delieverymen told me that he has never seen that much boxes until now.
  • All school admissions are delayed at least two weeks.
  • Most of the tests are also canceled.
  • Mass in the Catholic Church is canceled, until the situation gets better - first time in 236 years.
  • Buddhist ceremony is also canceled - first time in 1600 years.
  • Every Gyms are closed.
  • Seoul Sports Complex are also closed until further notice - bad news for Seoul E-Prix.
  • Ministry of Education recommended canceling cram school classes.
  • Eldery people finally learned how to  wash their hands after they go to the toilet.

After the outbreak, my study plan is totally messed up - German language exams(TestDaF) are canceled, German language schools are closed, and more and more countries are blocking Koreans from entering.

I just hope this corona thing to end quickly - so I could start my study at Germany on time.

 

Thanks for the info ,

How about German lessons on Skype ?        

Good Luck and stay safe

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE HalfDork
2/27/20 11:39 a.m.
NOHOME said:

Edit:

On an unrelated but related note. I used to live in Nigeria where Malaria was a given, and hence did a quick search to put this into perspective. Why is the world not in an equal panic about Malaria?

What is the mortality rate for malaria?
Internationally, malaria is responsible for approximately 1-3 million deaths per year. Of these deaths, the overwhelming majority are in children aged 5 years or younger, and 80-90% of the deaths each year are in rural sub-Saharan Africa. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There's actually a great economic reason why much of the world should drop most medical research and focus solely on fighting and curing malaria- what this doesn't mention is that nearly half of all survivors have chronic affects from the disease, and since it's blood-related (mostly poor red cells) it has lasting economic affects throughout someone's life cycle.

Toebra
Toebra Dork
2/27/20 11:45 a.m.

Lemmy looks like the "Hulahee" third from left, third one from the top

93EXCivic said:

I am not going to lie. I am a little nervous about it. My wife is due in June and works as a teacher so if it starts spreading in the US I will start to be worried.

No dude, you are looking at it all wrong.  She is due in June.  You can have her get cramps or something about the time school lets out, doc says better go on bed rest and bang, she is free and clear for the Summer.

NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
2/27/20 12:00 p.m.

In reply to GIRTHQUAKE :

I have thought about making myself a guinea pig on the subject. In the five years that I spent living and working in the swamps, I ever did contract Malaria (that I know of) That was a unique experience and everyone else on the crew had it at one time or the other . Lord knows I was carpeted in mosquitos half the time. Bad flu was how it was thought of and about a week off work. I could not abide the prophylactic medications that were available.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
2/27/20 12:27 p.m.
STM317 said:

China's population is around 1.38 Billion.

According to the latest report form the WHO (https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports/) There have been just over 78k confirmed cases of COVID-19 infection in China, and of those 78k cases, 2718 have died. That means that 0.0056% of the Chinese population has a confirmed case, and of those confirmed cases, 3.5% have died. Or 0.00019% of the  total population has been killed by the virus.

If we extrapolate those numbers to the much smaller US population, you'd have 18,312 people infected, and 640 deaths over a 3 month period, with most of those deaths coming from people with other pre-existing health concerns. Statistically, that would be considered a very light flu season.

If you don't trust China's numbers, that's fine but if they're remotely close to accurate it would be an almost un-noticeable increase in flu cases without digging into the data.

If you use the same method but use the Hubei province numbers, it would be 327000 infected and 14724 deaths if I did my math right. Still in the range of the flu season really.

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill PowerDork
2/27/20 12:31 p.m.

My cousin just got back to Chengdu, China after a quick vacation in Thailand:

“Things are looking a little bit grim but could be worse. It looks like I will be on a mandatory 14-day quarantine in my apartment. Potentially can’t even go downstairs or leave the flat. Unfortunately, without a piece of paper from the government official associated with my complex stating that I have finished the quarantine, I can’t return to work. Potentially have to order all food online and call the guards to deliver it to my door. Here we go! Only 336 hours left! At least I’m not sick.”



 

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