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z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
7/5/19 12:05 a.m.

Just curious, it's midnight and people are still setting off the big ones.

I don't have to work tomorrow, so I'm having adult beverages. But my girlfriend does, I'm sure many others do, and of course my 3 dogs.srent happy with it.

mtn
mtn MegaDork
7/5/19 4:23 a.m.

When I’m king, I’ll put in a law that says fireworks are acceptable from 3pm to 10:15pm on July 4th, and 12:00-12-15am on January 1st.  Violation of said law will result in a punishment of a speaker installed in every room of the house, like North Korea, which will play random noises at random times of random volume for 12 months. 

 

I hate the damn things, and I don’t even have ptsd, but for dogs and for (some of) those who do have ptsd, fireworks create a literal personal hell that can leave you shaking in terror. I think it is the height of inconsiderate shiny happy personry to do it on any day other than the 4th. 

 

Get off my lawn. 

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy UltimaDork
7/5/19 6:13 a.m.

Surprisingly my ‘hood is quiet this year.  Maybe tonight they’ll go nuts?

Torkel
Torkel Reader
7/5/19 6:43 a.m.

They should not start in the first place. Pointless, annoying and dangerous exercises of throwing trash everywhere. 

MazdaFace
MazdaFace Dork
7/5/19 7:26 a.m.

Unpopular opinion: legal every day of the year but not after 10pm except for July 4th and January 1st

Knurled.
Knurled. MegaDork
7/5/19 7:49 a.m.

Unpopular opinion:  Before they start.  No fireworks ever near any residential area.

 

I miss the BeaveRun July 4 freeform autocross - gave me a place to be all day where I wasn't near people blowing E36 M3 up.

poopshovel again
poopshovel again MegaDork
7/5/19 8:03 a.m.

We started at 9:00, when it was *kinda* dark. Finished up at 10:00. Kids in bed at 10:30. Everyone had fun. I didn’t buy anything less than 250g this year cuz Murica. It was the right call.

Also Phantom fireworks > TNT.

Andy Neuman
Andy Neuman SuperDork
7/5/19 8:03 a.m.

Doesn’t matter I’m so tired on the 4th of July from work nothing can wake me up. Old neighbors would set the them off from 10-12pm every year. 

I’d say proper cut off time should be 11pm, but you’ll never make everyone happy. 

poopshovel again
poopshovel again MegaDork
7/5/19 8:07 a.m.

In reply to mtn :

Counterpoint: Those of us who generally despise dogs have to deal with berkeleying dogs 24-7/365.

I have to sleep with ear plugs to drown out the barking EVERY_NIGHT. One or two days a year won’t kill you.

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia HalfDork
7/5/19 8:10 a.m.

I put earplugs in and barely heard anything.....

But it does get loud around here , lots of underground parking and buildings for the sounds to bounce off of , 

New year's is worse because people pull out the guns nearby and blast away , 

Glad it's over

Knurled.
Knurled. MegaDork
7/5/19 8:17 a.m.

In reply to californiamilleghia :

Earplugs/headphones doesn't do much when you can feel the concussions shaking the house and you think it's someone knocking on the door.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy UltimaDork
7/5/19 8:29 a.m.

What does the municipal ordinance say about quiet hours?

That's when they should stop.

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit SuperDork
7/5/19 8:43 a.m.

NEVER!!

 

KyAllroad (Jeremy)
KyAllroad (Jeremy) UltimaDork
7/5/19 8:50 a.m.

We went to see the municipal fireworks that started at 10 and from our highish vantage point could see more than a dozen private citizen “shows” at the same time.   Got home around 11 and set off a few since the neighbors were still at it.   Everyone knocked it off by midnight.

My dog seemed totally fine and my mild PTSD wasn’t affected.  The random firework in June or August is much worse but so long as I know they are going on, i’m cool.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
7/5/19 9:06 a.m.

Oddly enough, the fireworks in my neighborhood went on longer on July 3 than they did on July 4.  On the 3rd it sounded like WWIII at 1am, on the 4th it was all done by 10:30pm.

RevRico
RevRico PowerDork
7/5/19 9:09 a.m.

In reply to poopshovel again :

First year I've bought from phantom since I was a teenager. Absolutely garbage. Small, unimpressive, loads of duds and fuses that broke before actually igniting, sparklers that wouldn't light with a blow torch. Lots of stuff that only went up half as far as it should have before going off. berkeleying ripoff. I'm done with fireworks until I can get commercial grade again, this consumer stuff is way worse than I remember.

Someone over the hill has real fireworks, I'm pretty sure I know the house, just need to introduce myself.

poopshovel again
poopshovel again MegaDork
7/5/19 9:31 a.m.

In reply to RevRico :

Weird. I wonder if maybe the retailer is at fault there? Like I said, I did nothing less than 250g this year. No failures, duds, etc. They’re pricier than the brick and mortar store we *used* to have, but I guess I’m living proof that the market will bear it. And I was really pleased with the show vs. the TNT stuff, which I’m guessing is their direct competitor with the BOGO silliness.

mtn
mtn MegaDork
7/5/19 9:46 a.m.
poopshovel again said:

In reply to mtn :

Counterpoint: Those of us who generally despise dogs have to deal with berkeleying dogs 24-7/365.

I have to sleep with ear plugs to drown out the barking EVERY_NIGHT. One or two days a year won’t kill you.

Not sure how comparing E36 M3ty neighbors to E36 M3ty neighbors is a counterpoint.

FWIW, I have a barking breed. We don’t let him out at night and we keep him inside when he starts to bark. Dogs barking are an annoyance, but not putting you in danger of brain damage or hearing loss. 

Fireworks are about 30 times louder than a dog barking. Kinda like comparing a stock diesel truck at 50mph to a NASCAR at 200mph. 

nutherjrfan
nutherjrfan UltraDork
7/5/19 10:11 a.m.
poopshovel again said:

In reply to mtn :

Counterpoint: Those of us who generally despise dogs have to deal with berkeleying dogs 24-7/365.

I have to sleep with ear plugs to drown out the barking EVERY_NIGHT. One or two days a year won’t kill you.

oh those are reckless words in todays America.  I don't touch the subject.  Whilst I don't hate or like dogs I hate what they've become.  indecision

 It's only because of Bill Burr that I feel I can make fun of cyclists and all the 'frosty bikes.'  laugh

Slippery
Slippery SuperDork
7/5/19 10:18 a.m.

The answer seemed to be around 2am in my neighborhood. 

The0retical
The0retical UberDork
7/5/19 10:18 a.m.

My kids didn't sleep last night because the neighbors were doing fireworks until 1 am. I have my own set of issues.

If the neighbors wanted to do a big display I can handle that because I'm expecting it. It's really difficult for me to be outside or in the garage with intermittent explosions however.

My weekend is probably shot because the neighbors seem to have a bunch of people over so they'll be at it until Sunday night. Cranky kids and me being sleep deprived is going to make the weekend annoying.

Times like this I wish I had the RX-3 running so I could remove the exhaust and wake their hung over asses up at 6:30 am.

 

Anyway 10 or 11 PM is generally ok with me. After that you're probably just an shiny happy person.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
7/5/19 10:32 a.m.
poopshovel again said:

In reply to mtn :

Counterpoint: Those of us who generally despise dogs have to deal with berkeleying dogs 24-7/365.

I have to sleep with ear plugs to drown out the barking EVERY_NIGHT. One or two days a year won’t kill you.

You're comparing jerks to jerks.

Our dogs our crated when we aren't here, if they go outside and start acting like barkey, little jerks we bring them back inside.

 

 

frenchyd
frenchyd UberDork
7/5/19 11:20 a.m.

In reply to z31maniac : I watched the local hot shots try to outdo each other. Having people launch $50,000? Each worth of fireworks.  But as much as the locals launched, it was nowhere near the big professional display’s put on by the two towns and the country club. 

Excelsior’s was really spectacular including an awesome finale  that lasted at least 10 minutes.  Just awesome.  

But right during the middle of all that our Loon was giving his plaintiff  cry for his lost mate.   

6-7 years ago a pair of Bald Eagles tried to take her. I know one had his talons really in her because she pulled him underwater until only his head was above water. Then suddenly his stuck his wings out of the water and pulled himself out of the lake with a few flaps of his big powerful wings.  

I saw the Loons paddle over to each other afterwards but less than a month later winter hit so I’m sure they flew south  together. But only he made it back .  

Oops,  I digress . 

Anyway by 10:45 the fireworks were all done and I haven’t heard a single one since.  

 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
7/5/19 8:25 p.m.

I see this thread ending well.

frenchyd
frenchyd UberDork
7/6/19 10:20 a.m.
RevRico said:

In reply to poopshovel again :

First year I've bought from phantom since I was a teenager. Absolutely garbage. Small, unimpressive, loads of duds and fuses that broke before actually igniting, sparklers that wouldn't light with a blow torch. Lots of stuff that only went up half as far as it should have before going off. berkeleying ripoff. I'm done with fireworks until I can get commercial grade again, this consumer stuff is way worse than I remember.

Someone over the hill has real fireworks, I'm pretty sure I know the house, just need to introduce myself.

Is there a difference between commercial grade and the big professional stuff used by cities and towns?  

I looked at the prices of so called commercial stuff which seemed to have a pretty good success rate.  Wow!! Are they expensive. 

But they aren’t anywhere near what they launch at the two towns and country club on my lake.  

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