Why do toilets

Mndsm said:

Daylan C said:

Don't mind us, we're just over here trying to engineer a spinning toilet. 

You got anything better to be doing right now? 

Nah, man. I'm just sitting on the crapper, at the moment. 

SVreX said:

Why assume toilets need water?  Or even a drain, for that matter?

Composting toilets and incinerating toilets have neither. 

Composting toilets? You mean a litter box, hippy? I love the earth and all, but i work too damn hard to have to come home and E36 M3 in a box. Now if youll excuse me im gonna go try to invent the toilet clockspring. I want the water flow to spin the toilet for me. I think it will be fun.

nutherjrfan said:

I'm still reeling from this 20th Century advance in toilets that I learned about this past week. 

I spent a court ordered three day weekend at a place that had one of those. It was made out of stainless steel though. 

This is a E36 M3ty thread and you all should be ashamed of yourselves. 

KyAllroad (Jeremy) said:

The0retical said:

In reply to nutherjrfan :

I wanted a grey water sink tank really badly when we remodeled the bathroom in my old house.

I couldn't find one anywhere.

Prison?

Some of you seem to be much more familiar with prison fixtures then I am. I should have thought of that.

I had an uncle for a time who didn't like the plumbing in the wall, so he placed the shower stall 2' away from the wall so if he ever needed to deal with a leak, he could get in there.

"For a time," because he was a bit of a tool and my aunt dumped him and moved on.

Brett_Murphy said:

This is a E36 M3ty thread and you all should be ashamed of yourselves. 

Poop jokes really aren't my favorite.

But they are a strong #2

gearheadmb said:

SVreX said:

Why assume toilets need water?  Or even a drain, for that matter?

Composting toilets and incinerating toilets have neither. 

Composting toilets? You mean a litter box, hippy? I love the earth and all, but i work too damn hard to have to come home and E36 M3 in a box. Now if youll excuse me im gonna go try to invent the toilet clockspring. I want the water flow to spin the toilet for me. I think it will be fun.

Elitist E36 M3ter.

There are places in the world where they are quite normal. The US us one of the few places where people thing it’s a good idea to take perfectly good drinking water and flush it down the toilet in vast quantities. 

Just because your knowledge and experience are limited, doesn’t make you right. 

SVreX said:

gearheadmb said:

SVreX said:

Why assume toilets need water?  Or even a drain, for that matter?

Composting toilets and incinerating toilets have neither. 

Composting toilets? You mean a litter box, hippy? I love the earth and all, but i work too damn hard to have to come home and E36 M3 in a box. Now if youll excuse me im gonna go try to invent the toilet clockspring. I want the water flow to spin the toilet for me. I think it will be fun.

Elitist E36 M3ter.

 

There are places in the world where they are quite normal. The US us one of the few places where people thing it’s a good idea to take perfectly good drinking water and flush it down the toilet in vast quantities. 

 

Just because your knowledge and experience are limited, doesn’t make you right. 

Well we do have plenty of it unlike places that haven't figured out good drinking water amongst other things in the 21st Century.

End the govt subsidy of govt water and maybe we'll see a change but then you'd have pried one finger off the lever and we can't have that can we?

But still we have plenty of it.  We know how to purify it and store it - well maybe not California.

And there are plenty of recovering composters out there that would appreciate this little quote in Latin below.

“Infandum, regina, iubes renovare dolorem” 

SVreX said:

gearheadmb said:

SVreX said:

Why assume toilets need water?  Or even a drain, for that matter?

Composting toilets and incinerating toilets have neither. 

Composting toilets? You mean a litter box, hippy? I love the earth and all, but i work too damn hard to have to come home and E36 M3 in a box. Now if youll excuse me im gonna go try to invent the toilet clockspring. I want the water flow to spin the toilet for me. I think it will be fun.

Elitist E36 M3ter.

 

There are places in the world where they are quite normal. The US us one of the few places where people thing it’s a good idea to take perfectly good drinking water and flush it down the toilet in vast quantities. 

 

Just because your knowledge and experience are limited, doesn’t make you right. 

Normally a comment like this would make me take a step back and take a good hard look at my attitude. Has the fact that i was born in a privileged country with abundant natural resources clouded my world view so badly that i have completely forgotten the plight of my fellow man? But then i remembered that i dont accept criticism from dudes that poop in litter boxes.

Even Canada thinks that Composting toilets are a good thing. I know they are great in areas where it is impractical to have running water and sewerage.

In reply to Mndsm :

You are right, it would be

SVreX said:

The US us one of the few places where people thing it’s a good idea to take perfectly good drinking water and flush it down the toilet in vast quantities. 

 

I have nothing against composting toilets.  However, for a good portion of the country, it would be pretty damn easy to graywater or rainwater flush all of the toilets and retain 99.99% of the elite E36 M3ting feel.

In reply to NOHOME :

That makes me anxious just looking at it. I read somewhere that humans have a hardwired reflex to avoid showing their back to open spaces when they sit down. That's why you see all the wall side spaces or booths fill up in a restaurant first.

Now do it while you're pooping and you'll probably be looking over your shoulder like my dog when I'm watching him from the sliding glass door.

As for the composting.... I once worked out of a FOB where we had to do that. Except they couldn't compost all the poop from the base fast enough so they started incinerating it with the trash. I'll probably die of some horrible lung disease in my 50s.

Could be worse, my brother has one with the tank and plumbing built into the wall.

gearheadmb said:

SVreX said:

gearheadmb said:

SVreX said:

Why assume toilets need water?  Or even a drain, for that matter?

Composting toilets and incinerating toilets have neither. 

Composting toilets? You mean a litter box, hippy? I love the earth and all, but i work too damn hard to have to come home and E36 M3 in a box. Now if youll excuse me im gonna go try to invent the toilet clockspring. I want the water flow to spin the toilet for me. I think it will be fun.

Elitist E36 M3ter.

 

There are places in the world where they are quite normal. The US us one of the few places where people thing it’s a good idea to take perfectly good drinking water and flush it down the toilet in vast quantities. 

 

Just because your knowledge and experience are limited, doesn’t make you right. 

Normally a comment like this would make me take a step back and take a good hard look at my attitude. Has the fact that i was born in a privileged country with abundant natural resources clouded my world view so badly that i have completely forgotten the plight of my fellow man? But then i remembered that i dont accept criticism from dudes that poop in litter boxes.

Your choice. 

Also your choice to decide to receive commentary as criticism. It wasn’t. It was simply recognizing that all of the “engineering solutions” for a pivoting toilet presumed water (and drainage) were requirements. They are not. 

It was a limiting approach to problem solving that excluded legitimate solutions by presupposing and assuming certain parameters.  Kinda like your post. 

Peace, out. 

- The Hippie

ProDarwin said:

SVreX said:

The US us one of the few places where people thing it’s a good idea to take perfectly good drinking water and flush it down the toilet in vast quantities. 

 

I have nothing against composting toilets.  However, for a good portion of the country, it would be pretty damn easy to graywater or rainwater flush all of the toilets and retain 99.99% of the elite E36 M3ting feel.

Yep. You’re right!

gearheadmb said:

SVreX said:

Why assume toilets need water?  Or even a drain, for that matter?

Composting toilets and incinerating toilets have neither. 

Composting toilets? You mean a litter box, hippy? I love the earth and all, but i work too damn hard to have to come home and E36 M3 in a box. Now if youll excuse me im gonna go try to invent the toilet clockspring. I want the water flow to spin the toilet for me. I think it will be fun.

I have to think that with enough lateral pressure, you could hit a junction that would spin the toilet, and drop it into the bowl for use. The big problem would be getting that pressure. Alternatively you could possibly go old school grist mill style, use a water wheel and a gearset, so that every time you flushed, before the water hit the bowl it ran the wheel and subsequently flushed the toilet. 

Also, I'm about 75% sure that I could put together a full coax drain pipes as long as I could get my hands on some 5" sch40. That's a little too big for what we normally use at work and I'm pretty sure the boss would be mad if I ordered a stick for my own amusement. 

In reply to Mndsm :

That's an odd size, I've looked for it before. If you know any pool installers or commercial plumbing supply places they might be able to help. If I remember when I finally found it, it was sewage pipe green. 

In reply to RevRico :

Pool installers and commerical plumbers? In tourist hell central Florida where all they build is resorts and pools? I might know one or two. Worst case I can take my happy ass down to Ferguson and pick through their inventory. 

I think the tank should fill via a fountain of some sort. Better yet a fountain that has a network of waterfalls and maybe paddle wheels suspended from the ceiling so the water cascades down to the tank. 

Carbon said:

I think the tank should fill via a fountain of some sort. Better yet a fountain that has a network of waterfalls and maybe paddle wheels suspended from the ceiling so the water cascades down to the tank. 

You could use said water wheels to power the toilet spin. Though The plumbing to divorce the tank from the bowl would be about the same as divorcing the tank from the wall, so you could possible have a gray water tank from your shower and stuff, waterfall it down into the toilet, and spin while you're going. 

Come to think of it, why have the japanese not done this already? 

Back in the 80's my favorite bar in Palo Alto had a couple of these - but they didn't spin.

In the olden days they were common.

I have to say, this thread made me feel better after squeezing myself between the toilet and the wall to change the water valve.  Not easy on my old body