http://www.thv11.com/story/news/crime/2014/09/07/over-100-teens-swarm-memphis-plaza-knocking-out-shoppers/15262309/
anywhere anytime anything can happen, it seems.
http://www.thv11.com/story/news/crime/2014/09/07/over-100-teens-swarm-memphis-plaza-knocking-out-shoppers/15262309/
anywhere anytime anything can happen, it seems.
Probably wouldn't have helped and would only have made it worse, quite possibly for you. There's a time for every tool, and this wouldn't be the place for that particular tool, imo.
I predict that Obama will not give a speech about this or send Eric Holder in to investigate. Jessie Jackson nor Al Sharpton will show up and make speeches or lead a candlelight vigil either. This is a typical scene in many of our cities, but doesn't get the coverage of the very few crimes that are white on black.
That was bizarre! But to answer your question, probably not. It looked like a lot of kids running around feral. In the specific case of the kid in the green shirt stomping the guy on the ground: I personally would shoved him clear and only pulled if he wanted to continue his assault on the grounded victem or on me (at which point he becomes an imminent threat to my safety).
I'd like to know more about what precipitated this behavior though.
KyAllroad wrote: ....I'd like to know more about what precipitated this behavior though.
Social media is a "stupidity multiplier"
WTF
+1 for what KyAllroad said.
Pull on a crowd in close quarters and the crowd will overpower you.
Probably won't be too hard to find most of them. Just look on Facebook, twitter etc....
Never mind the fact that even the most rabid mall ninja carries...what...30 rounds?
T.J. wrote: I predict that Obama will not give a speech about this or send Eric Holder in to investigate. Jessie Jackson nor Al Sharpton will show up and make speeches or lead a candlelight vigil either. This is a typical scene in many of our cities, but doesn't get the coverage of the very few crimes that are white on black.
Nice flounder.
In reply to GameboyRMH: I'd think most sheeple aren't ballsy enough to turn on someone with a gun and try to take them down. Generally when guns get fired in a crowd the crowd panicks and scatters.
I only say this for clarification, my reason for not pulling in a crowd like that would be a question of liability. Without there being a clear and imminent threat to myself or another then pulling out a firearm would be a best brandishing and could quickly become a homicide. People who carry need to be very cautious about when and where they consider using their guns.
what shocked me, there were 3 people that were attacked and seriously hurt and 1, white and 2, black.
why is it the only news outlets that still cover this "knockout" game stuff are Drudge, The Blaze, and Fox.. This event notwithstanding.
Would it be going too far to wish that we could somehow brand every one of these idiots so the rest of society knows to stay away from them?
I'm thinking like STUPID tattooed on their foreheads. You know just for identification.
I was reading something (can't remember where for sure) that they are going to pursue charging the parents as well. They cited that "green shirt" was 17 and not enrolled in school, previous weapons charge, and the parent had been previously charged with contributing to delinquency of a minor. Aparrently, the mother didnt even bother to show to his court stuff.
Many of these cases are fine examples of children being allowed to roam free without control.
If this becomes a "thing"... buy Amazon stock right now!
The wrote:
I love how she keeps saying "someone call somebody" … way too busy filming to use her PHONE as a … you know … a phone … what a jacka$$
The following opinions are offered based on TN state law taught to me during handgun carry permit training. The law here states justifiable deadly force requires a reasonable fear of death or grievous bodily injury for yourself or a third party (if that person would be justified in using deadly force, you can use it on his behalf). That said, I am not a lawyer or Joe Biden. You shouldn't use my advice as a legal defense, especially if you live somewhere that the law is different.
Normally, drawing and/or firing on an unarmed assailant will go poorly for you. However, in this case, I believe the legal concept of "disparity of force" comes into play.
Disparity of force can have several elements. In some cases, a sheer advantage of size and/or training--if you're a 5-foot-3, 100-pound woman and are attacked by a 240-pound man who knows mixed martial arts, you would be justified in using a firearm to defend yourself.
In this case, on obvious disparity of force is that of numbers. If you're getting punched, kicked, and stomped on by a huge mob of people, I think you'd be reasonable to assume your life could be in danger.
Furthermore, if you're one of the guys on the ground as others stand above you and beat you, the legal concept of "position of disadvantage." You have no ability to retreat or properly defend yourself without using some sort of force multiplier, i.e. a firearm. I believe for at least one victim, position of disadvantage also applies in this case.
So in my opinion, if you're the guy in the blue shirt huddled in the fetal position while getting beat, yes, you would be legally justified in drawing your firearm with the intent to use it. But that doesn't mean you'll be able to do so before someone takes it away from you, shoves it up your rear, and pulls the berkleying trigger 'til it goes click. Things will be even worse if you do manage get rounds off and you run out of ammo before the mob runs out of will to fight.
Even if you can draw, shoot, and get out of the situation alive, you won't have shot a mob. You'll end up shooting one or more people who may or may not be armed. There will be tremendous political pressure to prosecute you, and you'll have to prove that it wasn't just a nameless mob beating you, but that you shot the exact people who had you in reasonable fear for your life.
Being in this situation has no good ending.
It's funny how in western's a guy used to shoot his gun into the air during a brawl as a way of saying "knock it off, partners."
Now, if you shot a gun into the air, you'd probably be fired upon and if you weren't killed you'd probably face prosecution.
This is the type of situation I'd want to fire a gun into the air as a way of saying "KNOCK IT OFF"
PHeller wrote: It's funny how in western's a guy used to shoot his gun into the air during a brawl as a way of saying "knock it off, partners." Now, if you shot a gun into the air, you'd probably be fired upon and if you weren't killed you'd probably face prosecution. This is the type of situation I'd want to fire a gun into the air as a way of saying "KNOCK IT OFF"
You do realize that the world is never like the movies.... right?
Bobzilla wrote:PHeller wrote: It's funny how in western's a guy used to shoot his gun into the air during a brawl as a way of saying "knock it off, partners." Now, if you shot a gun into the air, you'd probably be fired upon and if you weren't killed you'd probably face prosecution. This is the type of situation I'd want to fire a gun into the air as a way of saying "KNOCK IT OFF"You do realize that the world is never like the movies.... right?
Are you saying that Black Mamba couldn't have turned them all to a fine red mist with just a Hattori Hanzō sword and sexy yellow jump suit... because I was about to suggest that as a possible solution.
In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:
I bow to your superior intellect!
This brings an interesting conundrum for me. Now if it were just me personally, I'd probably not worry about it. A- I'm fairly intimidating on my own, and B- I don't have a problem defending myself hand to hand. Now if I had my wife and kid with me, and there was any chance that someone thought of harming them, I would likely not hesitate to put holes in bad guy first, worry about consequences later. It's easy to say that A is the optimal solution and you need to do so and so and this is what the best plan is, but quite frankly if someone is thinking about harming my family, all bets are off, and I am going straight to the maximum amount of force I have available to me. None of this progressive escalation BS. Will it get me locked up? Probably, I'm white! Will my family be safe in that situation? yep. Granted it's an extremely short sighted view to a long term end, but that's honestly what would probably happen.
wbjones wrote:The wrote:I love how she keeps saying "someone call somebody" … way too busy filming to use her PHONE as a … you know … a phone … what a jacka$$
I got a kick out of that as well... it's also sad but I also immediately thought of this video http://youtu.be/Bt9zSfinwFA
World star is more important than 911.
If I'm allowed something crew served and a few thousand rounds of ammo. Fire for effect and improve the iq of the city all at once.
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