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Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox Dork
1/16/12 10:36 a.m.
pilotbraden
pilotbraden Dork
1/16/12 10:39 a.m.

I too grow weary of this bs.

Ranger50
Ranger50 Dork
1/16/12 10:58 a.m.

What you mean I can't live in my government provided protective cocoon for my own safety????

I too grow tired of scan this and that looking for anything that could heaven forbid kill someone. I can applaud the effort of doing something, but at some point, you will either have to discriminate to get your results needed or accept the fact at some point in your life, you will get the chance to meet your maker by the hands of someone else and need to accept this fact. E36 M3 happens.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo SuperDork
1/16/12 10:59 a.m.

We can see your hootus and your cars stinkpipe.

ProtectorRoss
ProtectorRoss New Reader
1/16/12 2:11 p.m.

I guess I'm not going to Mexico any time soon.

jrw1621
jrw1621 SuperDork
1/16/12 2:56 p.m.

I am going to have to steal that blanket from my dentist.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
1/16/12 3:45 p.m.
Otto Maddox wrote: I find all this invasion of my privacy to be tiresome.

Tiresome, troubling... foreshadowing of yet more tyrannical measures to come. It is for our own good. We can't just be walking around freely you know. Someone might hurt someone.

Voting seems more and more like a placebo for an incurable cancer.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 SuperDork
1/16/12 4:35 p.m.
ProtectorRoss wrote: I guess I'm not going to Mexico any time soon.

Why would you want to? Have you not read or heard about the crazy nonsense going on down there with the drug cartels?

Toyman01
Toyman01 SuperDork
1/16/12 5:15 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Voting seems more and more like a placebo for an incurable cancer.

Quoted for truth.

Have you tried to get on a military base lately. They x-ray all commercial vehicles. After the last five years of working on most of the bases around here, I'm surprised I don't glow.

The easiest base to get on? Parris Island. All they want is insurance and drivers license. I guess they figure the Marines can handle whatever shows up. Hell, they probably look forward to the training.

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
1/16/12 5:54 p.m.

Until you can get the other guys to behave then we have no other choice than to take precautions. What the best precautions are I don't know, but we have just about the most open borders in the world.

Jay
Jay SuperDork
1/16/12 6:01 p.m.
carguy123 wrote: ...but we have just about the most open borders in the world.

BWA HA HA HA HA! No.

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
1/16/12 9:24 p.m.
Jay wrote:
carguy123 wrote: ...but we have just about the most open borders in the world.
BWA HA HA HA HA! No.

YES

Grizz
Grizz HalfDork
1/16/12 9:39 p.m.

I want this shirt.

MG Bryan
MG Bryan HalfDork
1/16/12 10:27 p.m.

They just want to see my hootus.

Jay
Jay SuperDork
1/16/12 11:23 p.m.
carguy123 wrote:
Jay wrote:
carguy123 wrote: ...but we have just about the most open borders in the world.
BWA HA HA HA HA! No.
YES

Try travelling in Europe sometime (or many other places in the world for that matter.) The first time you enter the E.U., a bored man will examine your passport for approximately 2 seconds, maybe stamp it, maybe not, and you'll be on your way. No "interview", no "declaration form" or any other BS paperwork to fill out on the airplane, no fingerprinting, no one asks for your return ticket or the address of the hotel you will be staying at, there is no Stalinist video looping endlessly on an overhead monitor while you stand in line for more then two hours, nothing. About twice as many nationalities can get in without a visa, and if you fly/drive/swim/whatever between an EU country and another EU country there is no border control. These days that means you can drive from Portugal to the Russia/Estonian border without going through a checkpoint.

Sorry, but most foreigners think of entering the US the same way you might think of entering the old Soviet Union.

MG Bryan
MG Bryan HalfDork
1/16/12 11:34 p.m.
Jay wrote:
carguy123 wrote:
Jay wrote:
carguy123 wrote: ...but we have just about the most open borders in the world.
BWA HA HA HA HA! No.
YES
Try travelling in Europe sometime (or many other places in the world for that matter.) The first time you enter the E.U., a bored man will examine your passport for approximately 2 seconds, maybe stamp it, maybe not, and you'll be on your way. No "interview", no "declaration form" or any other BS paperwork to fill out on the airplane, no fingerprinting, no one asks for your return ticket or the address of the hotel you will be staying at, there is no Stalinist video looping endlessly on an overhead monitor while you stand in line for more then two hours, nothing. About twice as many nationalities can get in without a visa, and if you fly/drive/swim/whatever between an EU country and another EU country there is *no* border control. These days that means you can drive from Portugal to the Russia/Estonian border without going through a checkpoint. Sorry, but most foreigners think of entering the US the same way you might think of entering the old Soviet Union.

This is all very true. I'll take sovereignty over convenient international travel though

novaderrik
novaderrik Dork
1/17/12 3:15 a.m.
carguy123 wrote: Until you can get the other guys to behave then we have no other choice than to take precautions. What the best precautions are I don't know, but we have just about the most open borders in the world.

yes- take precautions. profiling works, use it..

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
1/17/12 6:14 a.m.

Land of the free... snicker

foxtrapper
foxtrapper SuperDork
1/17/12 6:32 a.m.

x-raying people and cargo at border crossings has been going on for years now.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
1/17/12 7:22 a.m.
Jay wrote:
carguy123 wrote:
Jay wrote:
carguy123 wrote: ...but we have just about the most open borders in the world.
BWA HA HA HA HA! No.
YES
Try travelling in Europe sometime (or many other places in the world for that matter.) The first time you enter the E.U., a bored man will examine your passport for approximately 2 seconds, maybe stamp it, maybe not, and you'll be on your way. No "interview", no "declaration form" or any other BS paperwork to fill out on the airplane, no fingerprinting, no one asks for your return ticket or the address of the hotel you will be staying at, there is no Stalinist video looping endlessly on an overhead monitor while you stand in line for more then two hours, nothing. About twice as many nationalities can get in without a visa, and if you fly/drive/swim/whatever between an EU country and another EU country there is *no* border control. These days that means you can drive from Portugal to the Russia/Estonian border without going through a checkpoint. Sorry, but most foreigners think of entering the US the same way you might think of entering the old Soviet Union.

QFT in the traveling I have done every country I have visited has been easier to get into then traveling back to the US. And that is with a US passport.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo SuperDork
1/17/12 7:28 a.m.
jrw1621 wrote: I am going to have to steal that blanket from my dentist.

Hiding something, esse? No? Just your hootus?

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox Dork
1/17/12 8:14 a.m.
93EXCivic wrote:
Jay wrote:
carguy123 wrote:
Jay wrote:
carguy123 wrote: ...but we have just about the most open borders in the world.
BWA HA HA HA HA! No.
YES
Try travelling in Europe sometime (or many other places in the world for that matter.) The first time you enter the E.U., a bored man will examine your passport for approximately 2 seconds, maybe stamp it, maybe not, and you'll be on your way. No "interview", no "declaration form" or any other BS paperwork to fill out on the airplane, no fingerprinting, no one asks for your return ticket or the address of the hotel you will be staying at, there is no Stalinist video looping endlessly on an overhead monitor while you stand in line for more then two hours, nothing. About twice as many nationalities can get in without a visa, and if you fly/drive/swim/whatever between an EU country and another EU country there is *no* border control. These days that means you can drive from Portugal to the Russia/Estonian border without going through a checkpoint. Sorry, but most foreigners think of entering the US the same way you might think of entering the old Soviet Union.
QFT in the traveling I have done every country I have visited has been easier to get into then traveling back to the US. And that is with a US passport.

I went all over Eastern Europe soon after the fall of communism. Border guards never did anything more than take a quick glance at my passport. Some roads don't even have border guards. You just enter another country all of a sudden.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve SuperDork
1/17/12 8:43 a.m.

I for one look forward to this technology. Free automotive and personal diagnosis! "Oh look, I have a lower colon blockage, and a crack in my oil pan."

N Sperlo
N Sperlo SuperDork
1/17/12 8:49 a.m.
Grizz wrote: I want this shirt.

I want those Unibomber sunglasses. Straight pimpin.

Strizzo
Strizzo SuperDork
1/17/12 11:40 a.m.
Jay wrote:
carguy123 wrote:
Jay wrote:
carguy123 wrote: ...but we have just about the most open borders in the world.
BWA HA HA HA HA! No.
YES
Try travelling in Europe sometime (or many other places in the world for that matter.) The first time you enter the E.U., a bored man will examine your passport for approximately 2 seconds, maybe stamp it, maybe not, and you'll be on your way. No "interview", no "declaration form" or any other BS paperwork to fill out on the airplane, no fingerprinting, no one asks for your return ticket or the address of the hotel you will be staying at, there is no Stalinist video looping endlessly on an overhead monitor while you stand in line for more then two hours, nothing. About twice as many nationalities can get in without a visa, and if you fly/drive/swim/whatever between an EU country and another EU country there is *no* border control. These days that means you can drive from Portugal to the Russia/Estonian border without going through a checkpoint. Sorry, but most foreigners think of entering the US the same way you might think of entering the old Soviet Union.

i will vouch that you can freely move between the various EU nations without much drama, it is very similar to traveling through the US states. driving down the road, "welcome to XXX, home of blah blah blah" and theres a visitor info center somewhere in the next couple miles.

i will also, however, say that the last time i traveled to the UK, landing at Heathrow, i DID have to fill out a landing card, and i was asked for the address of the hotel i was staying at, i couldn't even remember the name other than "its in Newbury" and the immigration guy did get rather irritated that i had to ask my colleague that was traveling with us. And i've still yet to be allowed to fly out of Heathrow or Manchester without being groped by one or more "security" personnel.

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