sometimes I hate being broke...

Zx12 for almost challenge money....

http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/mcy/3567268464.html

No play money right now, so I thought I would pass it along.

Needs a clutch at 11,000 miles, and comes with a new rear tire? I would imagine it's pretty well trashed and has seen a lot of time with the front wheel up.

Could also be nothing more than an idiot with no idea on how to not drag the clutch. Left side pic has a military gate tag on it, could easily have been purchased by a young guy with little to no experience. Or he could just be afraid of it.

One other thing that is a bit of a deterrent, in FL its a $1000 fine if a Leo witnesses you lifting a wheel for the first offense. 2500 for the second, and pretty sure its impound and license revocation after that.

Spinout007 wrote: Could also be nothing more than an idiot with no idea on how to not drag the clutch. Left side pic has a military gate tag on it, could easily have been purchased by a young guy with little to no experience. Or he could just be afraid of it. One other thing that is a bit of a deterrent, in FL its a $1000 fine if a Leo witnesses you lifting a wheel for the first offense. 2500 for the second, and pretty sure its impound and license revocation after that.

That's Draconian! How do you not lift a wheel on a liter+ bike?

Very carefully, I test rode a busa back when they first came out. I was a 100lbs lighter than I am now, but damn if that thing didn't lift the front wheel in third gear with just a twist of the throttle. No clutch shenanigans, just rolled on it, and it came right up. Guy I used to work with had a ZX-11 that was turbocharged on top of a big bore setup. That thing was psychotic.

Some of the recent 600cc super sports lift easily

A RD-350 will raise the front wheel on a 1st-2nd shift without abusing the clutch.

In reply to pilotbraden:

Wasn't the RD350 nicknamed "the widowmaker"? Something about a two stroke 350? or was there a bigger one?

Spinout007 wrote: In reply to pilotbraden: Wasn't the RD350 nicknamed "the widowmaker"? Something about a two stroke 350? or was there a bigger one?

it was the Kawasaki H2 750 triple that was the original widowmaker

then the 97 TL1000

Spinout007 wrote: In reply to pilotbraden: Wasn't the RD350 nicknamed "the widowmaker"? Something about a two stroke 350? or was there a bigger one?

2 stroke, 2 cylinder, 2 carburetors, 350 cc. I have one with some porting and DG pipes. A previous owner was a small guy, 120#, he ran the 1/4 mile in the 12 second range. The motorcycle had achieved terminal velocity before he hit the 1/8 mile mark. The way it is geared about 110-115 mph is past redline in top gear. The bigger one is a RD400.

My brother worked for the Yamaha dealer and used to bring them home as demos, man were they fun.

The RD350 was the typical piston port two stroke of the era, no bottom end power and due to the design of the exhaust pipes had a narrow powerband. The reed valves helped them make more power but didn't make them less explosive in its delivery. That made them dangerous for the beginner or novice but downright exhilarating for the more advanced rider.

It was also known as the 'giant killer' after a Yamaha 350 ridden by Don Vesco swept the Daytona 200, beating all the Honda 750 fours. That was a great thing for them since in 1963 every bike they entered sawed a crank in half, they were reduced to getting engines from bikes at a local dealership and they too broke cranks. Talk about embarrassing.

pres589 wrote: Needs a clutch at 11,000 miles, and comes with a new rear tire? I would imagine it's pretty well trashed and has seen a lot of time with the front wheel up.

The clutch, yeah, maybe, but as someone said, he's probably just dragging it. Rear tire is easy, burnouts.

FWIW, I would wear out a rear on my 929RRs every 2k, and wear a front out every 4k. Yes, a front. No chicken strips here mano. Those people that can ride will decimate tires on the street. Track use is considerably accelerated over that.

I would get about the same 2-3k out of a rear tire on my 900RR, I pushed one to almost 4k once. Nice gentle ride to the shop to get the new tire put on, as I couldn't find anyone with a truck, and I needed it for work the next day. When I got there it was showing cords.

In reply to Spinout007:

Definitely, and no burnouts... I forgot to mention that in my mileage reply. Mine was mostly from acceleration for the rear, including a few wheelies.

ZX11/12/13 owners however, like Busa owners, are famous for burnouts, both stationary and rolling.

Curmudgeon wrote: My brother worked for the Yamaha dealer and used to bring them home as demos, man were they fun. The RD350 was the typical piston port two stroke of the era, no bottom end power and due to the design of the exhaust pipes had a narrow powerband. The reed valves helped them make more power but didn't make them less explosive in its delivery. That made them dangerous for the beginner or novice but downright exhilarating for the more advanced rider. It was also known as the 'giant killer' after a Yamaha 350 ridden by Don Vesco swept the Daytona 200, beating all the Honda 750 fours. That was a great thing for them since in 1963 every bike they entered sawed a crank in half, they were reduced to getting engines from bikes at a local dealership and they too broke cranks. Talk about embarrassing.

Well sort of...RD350 had reed valve and picked up tons of bottom end your thinking R5's they were piston port and with a little work they have plenty of bottom end..

Damn yous. (Goes off to troll CL for RDs.)

fastest i used a back tire was 1700 miles, non of which were burnouts