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ditchdigger
ditchdigger HalfDork
11/22/10 9:32 p.m.

Last month, the day after I got sidelined by a blown headgasket in the FIAT I was passed by what looked to be a tiny cafe racer. As it blew by me at more than 45mph I realized it was a modified moped. 15 minutes of googling showed me what they are capable of when kitted and tuned and I needed some cheap, fun backup for the 850. I commuted on mopeds in the mid-90's so I was pretty sure of what I was getting into.

I found most of a 78 Vespa Ciao in boxes and snapped it up. Only what I bought looked like this

With all that was bad there were a few good things going on. The original rigid front fork had been replaced with a yamaha triple tree and there was an old CEV headlight included. The first step was to weld up some aluminum headlight brackets I then blew apart the Dell'orto 12/10 sha carb and reamed it out to 1/2" I ordered 17X2.75" tires not knowing they would be way too big. I had to actually flare the rear fender a lot to make them fit. Next step acid etch the fuel tank to remove the rust, seal with POR-15 tank sealant. Prep and paint the frame and start reassembly. The clubman handlebars came from treatland.tv

The next step is engine rebuild and a massive overbore. My 75cc kit shiped on friday so I hope to get it soon. There is apparently quite a bit of case grinding needed to fit the oversized cylinder. I still need to source a pipe. I would love to build one but the science of expansion chambers is lost on me.

Practical? probably not, Fun? sure but for how long? Cheap? yeah I hope to have less than $400 into the whole thing.

For some reason SWMBO hates the idea of me on a motorcycle but when I told her I was buying another moped she was delighted. Perhaps this will get her used to the idea of me commuting on two wheels so when I say "You know, this really isn't practical enough, I think I need something with gears that can keep up with traffic" she will be OK with me draggin home an old Gilera or Puch motorcycle.

Hope to update soon.

minimac
minimac SuperDork
11/23/10 7:28 a.m.

Vespa on steroids - totally awesome project! If you intend to ride it much, I'd suggest some real fenders, for function. Big tires kick up stones, and at speed- they HURT!!!

pinchvalve
pinchvalve SuperDork
11/23/10 8:02 a.m.

Rigid front end? Ouch.

Matt B
Matt B HalfDork
11/23/10 8:37 a.m.

That's the toughest looking moped I think I've seen. Nice color choice btw.

Appleseed
Appleseed SuperDork
11/23/10 10:32 a.m.

Bitchin'!

Pumpkin Escobar
Pumpkin Escobar SuperDork
11/23/10 11:51 a.m.

nice!

mndsm
mndsm Dork
11/23/10 11:57 a.m.

That looks like a pile of fun.

ditchdigger
ditchdigger HalfDork
11/23/10 12:31 p.m.

I just found out that P.S.R.A. aka the Pacific Scooter Racing Assosiation has a moped class and they race at PIR. That is close enough to try it out

mndsm
mndsm Dork
11/23/10 12:33 p.m.

I love the guy on the far right (Left?) that has the cardboard number plate. Sure the joke is played, but it's ghetto fabulous enough to make it funny.

Pumpkin Escobar
Pumpkin Escobar SuperDork
11/23/10 12:36 p.m.

When I used to race BMX in the NBL, we used to use paper plates from the consession stand at the BX track...but you had to buy something to get a plate. We used to joke about the 50 cent number plates that came with a hot dog.

Platinum90
Platinum90 SuperDork
11/24/10 7:00 a.m.

I think that thing would be fun, but you can't beat a geared 50. My new to me Honda MB is so much fun that I have neglected the forums all week.

ditchdigger
ditchdigger HalfDork
11/24/10 10:15 p.m.

The kit is here!

First step is to bore out the case to fit the oversized cylinder. From what I understand most folks use a grinder. I opted for the vertical mill

Nice and clean.

The jug snaps in like a lego.

Just laying out the Dykem now and scribing the locations of the enlarged transfer ports and the new boost port passages.

Otto_Maddox
Otto_Maddox HalfDork
11/29/10 10:57 a.m.

Coolest moped project ever.

4g63t
4g63t HalfDork
11/29/10 7:11 p.m.

I would so TOTALLY ride that!! (says the guy with a Kawasaki Eddie Lawson Replica)

vazbmw
vazbmw Reader
12/1/10 8:22 p.m.

In reply to ditchdigger:

Awesommme1

ditchdigger
ditchdigger HalfDork
12/3/10 12:09 a.m.

Motor is back together

I had to actually build up the outside of the case by drop filling in weld in order to port match. This is the largest kit that will fit in the stock case and I can understand why folks say it isn't as fast as it should be. There just wasn't much left of the transfer ports, boring the case just cut them way down. By building up the outside I was able to enlarge them to at least what they were before. Hopefully I didn't screw anything up. I used this as a guide. http://vespa-ciao.nl/page.php?id=187

Big McLargehuge
Big McLargehuge HalfDork
12/13/10 11:03 p.m.

motor is in. New everything. Bearings, seals, points, condenser and everything else. This is supposed to be a 7+hp motor. For I bike I can curl with my right arm I think that should be a lot of fun.

Now to buy or build a pipe.

Rad_Capz
Rad_Capz Reader
12/13/10 11:35 p.m.

Awesome project! I say make the pipe, if for no other reason than to learn.

wreckerboy
wreckerboy SuperDork
12/14/10 6:43 a.m.
Appleseed
Appleseed SuperDork
12/14/10 2:22 p.m.

Damn! Beat me to it.

"Can't ride to long, smell like a lawn mo', If the light goes out, jus' jiggle da cord..."

Mental
Mental SuperDork
12/14/10 8:20 p.m.

that

is

awesome!

Osterkraut
Osterkraut Dork
12/14/10 8:30 p.m.
Big McLargehuge wrote: For I bike I can curl with my right arm I think that should be a lot of fun.

There's a joke in here about why your left arm is weaker...if only I could think of it.

Awesome bike...err...moped!

problemaddict
problemaddict Reader
12/15/10 4:22 a.m.

Please build your own pipe so I can live vicariously through you:

http://vincentcrabtree.co.uk/ExpansionChamberDesigner.aspx

And I've always wanted to try something I saw on Tony Foale"s site:

Hydro-forming exhaust http://www.eurospares.com/frame8.htm

ditchdigger
ditchdigger HalfDork
12/15/10 9:40 a.m.

Ahhh... Crap. That calculator is pretty understandable.

.........shuffles off to look for DIY slip roll plans

44Dwarf
44Dwarf Dork
12/15/10 9:46 a.m.

To bad your on the wrong coast. You could use mine. It's way to heavy to ship.... Somewhere i have a link to a place that sell cones.... I used to make my own pipes and alway wanted to try the hydro forming but never made the pump.

44

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