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eastpark
eastpark HalfDork
1/2/25 2:36 p.m.

In reply to wvumtnbkr :

The title reminds me of this:

nocones
nocones PowerDork
1/2/25 2:50 p.m.

In reply to wvumtnbkr :

Okay that's a solid question.  

So MX-5 I have always pronounced 3 distinct sounds.. 

EM-X-Five.

So I imagined this is the same.  

EM-Anks-Five.  

The Manx becomes hidden because you say M-anx but it's still kinda there. 

 

I just love that the important parts of this build are Bull Bars, Beer Fenders, and Pronunciation.   Which really are the performance metrics that matter for it if we are honest.  

 

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltimaDork
1/2/25 3:07 p.m.
nocones said:

In reply to wvumtnbkr :

Okay that's a solid question.  

So MX-5 I have always pronounced 3 distinct sounds.. 

EM-X-Five.

So I imagined this is the same.  

EM-Anks-Five.  

The Manx becomes hidden because you say M-anx but it's still kinda there. 

 

I just love that the important parts of this build are Bull Bars, Beer Fenders, and Pronunciation.   Which really are the performance metrics that matter for it if we are honest.  

 

Anybody can build a straight forward performance vehicle.  It takes a special "disease" to purposely tread the broken road that leads to enlightenment.  

 

I believe you may be contagious. 

 

Thank you.

nocones
nocones PowerDork
1/3/25 10:27 a.m.

Got the interior cleaned out and removed the carpet.   

I have a vague plan for the tubes that will be added to restore structure to the Miata.  

How much/how important would all the underbody braces be on a Miata that will weigh about 500lbs less then a Miata and have door reinforcement?  They weigh..  a lot..  and leaving them off would be excellent.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
1/3/25 10:44 a.m.

By "door reinforcement ", do you mean no doors and thus a solid bar across the opening? Those underbody braces weren't found on Miatas pre-2001, and your shell is already stiffer. For autox, light weight appears to trump chassis rigidity. For street comfort...well, they bolt on/off. So you can build and decide. 

If this is expected to generate cornering loads, I'd keep the ones on the front and rear subframe. Yes, they're the heaviest but that's because they do the most. 

sleepyhead the buffalo
sleepyhead the buffalo PowerDork
1/3/25 11:08 a.m.
nocones said:

I just love that the important parts of this build are Bull Bars, Beer Fenders, and Pronunciation.   Which really are the performance metrics that matter for it if we are honest.  

In relation to the concept we discussed separately, which didn't "math"... I'm going to point out that it doesn't fit the "important" parts of this build either.

I reckon the best thing to do, aero-wise (other than tweaking the cooling, in part to fit the concept image) is having a removable rear spoiler to settle the rear end on the auto-X course (and err on the side of "fit the vibe" with that).  If/when the body starts to gel more, we can look if there's ways to add some front-aero bits that might add some DF, but still work with the overall concept.

nocones
nocones PowerDork
1/3/25 12:09 p.m.

I had a look at the front this morning and think I have a concept for the hood that should look alright even with the radiator.   I think I can make the radiator a little lower and back which will help with the amount the fenders are in front of the wheels.   I think they will move back 3-4" from the mockup.  

It's a crude drawing but with Robbie's Bull bar I think the radiator can be incorporated nicely 

sleepyhead the buffalo
sleepyhead the buffalo PowerDork
1/3/25 12:51 p.m.

depending how the bullbar goes together, and how far forward it goes (and excesses of conduit); here's a concept for some "Dirt Shovels" single/dual element front wings (approximate cross-section at bottom):

nocones
nocones PowerDork
1/4/25 12:48 p.m.

What is this thing?  

I did some more cutting.  I think I'm approaching final cuts.  I have a solid "plan" to add tubes back and need to go to the metal store Monday.

Radiator is going to get lowered about 1" but stay in the front.  I think it will look fine.  Hopefully.

The Miata radiator mounts are removable so I will just extend them slightly.  Upper will be a new cross bar.  

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
1/4/25 2:35 p.m.

That thing is the airbag control module, IIRC.

That cross bar on the front (joining the two frame horns) should be fairly burly. Lots of load going through there on cornering and vertical bumps.

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