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Conquest351
Conquest351 UltraDork
1/28/14 2:04 p.m.

Couldn't find the Epic Build Thread anywhere...

http://www.luxury4play.com/lamborghini/155345-countach-anniversary-restoration.html

Friggin insane!!!

Powar
Powar SuperDork
1/28/14 2:13 p.m.

This:

is a really impressive amount of rot for a car with 6000 miles on it.

Ditchdigger
Ditchdigger UltraDork
1/28/14 2:24 p.m.

Something about that UK air makes cars turn to orange dust quickly. There are build threads on Retrorides of low mileage, stored inside 15 year old fords with rot that makes our rust belt cars look pristine.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/28/14 2:26 p.m.

I whimpered a little. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THANK YOU

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim PowerDork
1/28/14 2:32 p.m.
Ditchdigger wrote: Something about that UK air makes cars turn to orange dust quickly. There are build threads on Retrorides of low mileage, stored inside 15 year old fords with rot that makes our rust belt cars look pristine.

It's a combination of factors - first, you have the perma-damp (at least in winter, more often year round), they chuck tons of salt on the road at the slightest provocation and the garage designs often turn the garage into a damp hellhole. I actually used to run a dehumidifier in mine during winter and still ended up with a few tools (mostly Allen keys) that have surface rust just from being in the garage.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/28/14 2:35 p.m.

The original craftsmanship on this car looks to be impressively terrible.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla PowerDork
1/28/14 2:35 p.m.

engine/transaxle weighs 917lbs! Holy crap, that's almost as much as a 3cyl metro.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo Mod Squad
1/28/14 2:53 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote: The original craftsmanship on this car looks to be impressively terrible.

I was thinking, man those are some crappy looking welds for a berkeleying Lamborghini.

Cuda
Cuda Reader
1/28/14 2:58 p.m.

Insane restoration... They hand clean the frame, then reuse the clutch?

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler Dork
1/28/14 3:00 p.m.
EastCoastMojo wrote:
Swank Force One wrote: The original craftsmanship on this car looks to be impressively terrible.
I was thinking, man those are some crappy looking welds for a berkeleying Lamborghini.

So much for "hand built craftsmanship", eh? Seems like it will be better than new when finished.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo Mod Squad
1/28/14 3:01 p.m.
Cuda wrote: Insane restoration... They hand clean the frame, then reuse the clutch?

Exactly! I didn't even think the surface on that clutch disc looked all that great. I mean, look at everything else that got spit-shined on that thing, down to zinc plating washers ferchristsake, and then they stick the old clutch back in?

NOHOME
NOHOME Dork
1/28/14 3:04 p.m.

10k miles and it has already been re-painted and needs a ground up restoration?

I will never again feel self conscious about my welds! Holy crapola batman, stop the wine breaks in the factory floor gentlemen!

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/28/14 3:05 p.m.

Zinc plating is actually pretty cheap, so that part didn't surprise me. The clutch disc does and doesn't surprise me.

I bet it's not cheap.

But on the other hand, isn't lamborghini the ones famous for making cars that need a clutch replacement every 10k miles?

Just in case others want to see the welds we're talking about without having the time to wade through the thread. Here's the one that really caught my eye.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
1/28/14 3:08 p.m.
Ditchdigger wrote: Something about that UK air makes cars turn to orange dust quickly. There are build threads on Retrorides of low mileage, stored inside 15 year old fords with rot that makes our rust belt cars look pristine.

No kidding. We've only had about 4 FM springs break over the years, and all but one was in the UK. That other one? Canadian Maritimes. I swear the UK is the rust capital of the world. Which, you would think, would mean that British car designers would be at the forefront of anti-rust technology. It's actually the exact opposite. Same with keeping rain out. Maybe they're just used to being damp...

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/28/14 3:09 p.m.
Keith Tanner wrote:
Ditchdigger wrote: Something about that UK air makes cars turn to orange dust quickly. There are build threads on Retrorides of low mileage, stored inside 15 year old fords with rot that makes our rust belt cars look pristine.
No kidding. We've only had about 4 FM springs break over the years, and all but one was in the UK. That other one? Canadian Maritimes. I swear the UK is the rust capital of the world. Which, you would think, would mean that British car designers would be at the forefront of anti-rust technology. It's actually the exact opposite. Same with keeping rain out. Maybe they're just used to being damp...

I believe they prefer the term "moist."

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr Dork
1/28/14 3:15 p.m.

DO NOT WANT!

Wow, I hope they are built better these days.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe Dork
1/28/14 3:22 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote: Zinc plating is actually pretty cheap, so that part didn't surprise me. The clutch disc does and doesn't surprise me. I bet it's not cheap.

Sending a clutch disk out for refurb is 100-200$ here. DIRT CHEAP compared to pulling the car back apart for a clutch.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/28/14 3:23 p.m.
wearymicrobe wrote:
Swank Force One wrote: Zinc plating is actually pretty cheap, so that part didn't surprise me. The clutch disc does and doesn't surprise me. I bet it's not cheap.
Sending a clutch disk out for refurb is 100-200$ here. DIRT CHEAP compared to pulling the car back apart for a clutch.

Think they'll do a Countach disc for $100-$200? (I genuinely don't know the answer)

Woody
Woody MegaDork
1/28/14 3:46 p.m.

Wheeler Dealers did a Lambo Urraco and a replacement clutch cost them GBP 2500. They had no option but to get it directly from Lamborghini. They did resurface the flywheel.

Woody
Woody MegaDork
1/28/14 3:54 p.m.
Tom_Spangler wrote:
EastCoastMojo wrote:
Swank Force One wrote: The original craftsmanship on this car looks to be impressively terrible.
I was thinking, man those are some crappy looking welds for a berkeleying Lamborghini.
So much for "hand built craftsmanship", eh? Seems like it will be better than new when finished.

Here's the inside of an Aston Martin D2. The welds weren't bad, but there aren't very many of them either.

Coachbuilt = Scary

 photo PorscheClubJanuary017_zps9b668167.jpg

 photo PorscheClubJanuary035_zps1a744808.jpg

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim PowerDork
1/28/14 3:55 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote:
Keith Tanner wrote:
Ditchdigger wrote: Something about that UK air makes cars turn to orange dust quickly. There are build threads on Retrorides of low mileage, stored inside 15 year old fords with rot that makes our rust belt cars look pristine.
No kidding. We've only had about 4 FM springs break over the years, and all but one was in the UK. That other one? Canadian Maritimes. I swear the UK is the rust capital of the world. Which, you would think, would mean that British car designers would be at the forefront of anti-rust technology. It's actually the exact opposite. Same with keeping rain out. Maybe they're just used to being damp...
I believe they prefer the term "moist."

"slightly humid".

Woody
Woody MegaDork
1/28/14 3:58 p.m.

Okay, these Aston Martin welds suck, but I suspect that this was a repair.

 photo PorscheClubJanuary036_zpsa487e9ea.jpg

mazdeuce
mazdeuce UltraDork
1/28/14 4:02 p.m.

That thread talked me out of my Lamborghini obsession.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson PowerDork
1/28/14 5:59 p.m.

920lbs for the engine, gearbox assembly!! Holy crap that's heavy!

petegossett
petegossett PowerDork
1/28/14 6:04 p.m.

Wow, my Europa honestly looks like it was built better than that Lamborghini. I can truthfully say that Lotus welds are much better than those. Of course, there's only ~10% as much steel in the Lotus and it's all 16-gauge sheetmetal, so it's either welded, it's not, or you burn a hole through trying.

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