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Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
3/11/16 8:23 a.m.

At least for the 96-98 cobra, there was no option on gear ratios to my knowledge. 3.27's are stock. I believe this also applies to the 99/01 cobra. at least in mine, with the T-45, 2nd gear goes to 70-75mph as I recall.

There may be taller gears for automatics, but I never really followed them. Cobra's only come with a manual trans as the higher deities intended.

CobraSpdRH
CobraSpdRH Reader
3/11/16 12:14 p.m.

I feel like I've searched each of these cars mentioned at one point or another.

The Terminator is still hovering up around 20k, Mach 1's have dipped into the lower teens (not sure if they are rising or not), Bullits slightly less than that (when you can find one), then the '99 and 01' Cobras (because none are stock anymore) and then the New Edge GT's.

I have bounced up and down the spectrum of these many times, trying to figure out the best bank for the buck. Seeing as this thread has grown to 3 pages in the matter of a couple hours, I would say there is plenty of interest in these.

Fun fact, I bought a Saleen-supercharged (non-factory) 02 used that never really felt particularly fast. Loved the looks, but dumped it a short time later for the then-new SRT-4. Turns out it had been running lean with a bad injector and the motor blew shortly thereafter. Dodged a bullet there...

WOW Really Paul?
WOW Really Paul? MegaDork
3/11/16 1:25 p.m.

In reply to CobraSpdRH:

I've seen several mach1's for under $10k at this point....seems to be a bunch of people not putting much of a value to them once they're past collector car mileage.

Harvey
Harvey Dork
3/11/16 2:34 p.m.

Wow, Terminators are $20k? My neighbor wanted a Mach 1 when he went to the dealer in 2003, but they didn't have any so they gave him a fantastic deal on the Terminator, I don't think he paid much more than $24-25k IIRC.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
3/11/16 2:39 p.m.

Yeah, just looked on autotrader and the average price within 500 miles is $24k with only a handful under $20k.

Yikes, good investment

Enyar
Enyar Dork
3/11/16 3:52 p.m.

Threads like these make me hesitate on whether or not I should sell my 1994 GT.

Nick (LUCAS) Comstock
Nick (LUCAS) Comstock UltimaDork
3/11/16 6:10 p.m.

What do all you Mustang lovers think about the GT of these years being used, in stock condition, for rallycross and autocross? Will they get ripped to shreds? Will they be disappointing to drive?

Storz
Storz Dork
3/13/16 9:04 a.m.

Talk to me about Foxbody Cobras....

smokindav
smokindav New Reader
3/13/16 9:33 a.m.

I had a 1997 Mustang Cobra. I bought it from the 62-year old original owner. It was all stock when I got it. All I did to it was add a brake cooling kit, track brake pads and then I tracked it a few times. If you track the car you will probably have problems with brake rotors cracking. If you are going to track the car go ahead and get Brembo calipers in the front with two-piece floating rotors and a brake cooling kit.

I loved the car, comfortable and did fine at the track.

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Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
3/13/16 6:19 p.m.
Storz wrote: Talk to me about Foxbody Cobras....

Rarer, limited production, not as many differences from the GT. only about 5k built and ones in good shape are held as investments at this point.

The difference from a GT are a few body things, an intake, and rear discs. That said, you can easially upgrade a fox GT with better parts than the cobra parts.

Storz
Storz Dork
3/13/16 6:43 p.m.
Apexcarver wrote:
Storz wrote: Talk to me about Foxbody Cobras....
Rarer, limited production, not as many differences from the GT. only about 5k built and ones in good shape are held as investments at this point. The difference from a GT are a few body things, an intake, and rear discs. That said, you can easially upgrade a fox GT with better parts than the cobra parts.

Gotcha, thanks.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
3/14/16 8:20 a.m.

Also noteworthy is the 1994-95 cobra which has the 302 pushrod motor (aka, the 5.0L), those cars get you better brakes and again, small engine differences over the GT.

96+ cobras have a whole different motor (DOHC vs the GT's SOHC)

If you want a car to build, the 302 may be a good option as engine parts abound. The 96+ cars (other than the 03-04 cobra) pretty much only have an easy path of adding a supercharger.

Enyar
Enyar Dork
3/14/16 8:24 a.m.
Apexcarver wrote: Also noteworthy is the 1994-95 cobra which has the 302 pushrod motor (aka, the 5.0L), those cars get you better brakes and again, small engine differences over the GT. 96+ cobras have a whole different motor (DOHC vs the GT's SOHC) If you want a car to build, the 302 may be a good option as engine parts abound. The 96+ cars (other than the 03-04 cobra) pretty much only have an easy path of adding a supercharger.

If anyone is interested in a 1994 Mustang GT (heavily but tastefully modded) I would love to see mine go to a GRM member.

petegossett
petegossett PowerDork
3/14/16 8:49 a.m.

In reply to Enyar:

Potentially...

kanaric
kanaric Dork
3/14/16 9:24 a.m.

Whenever i think of cars like this era cobra I think I could get a 350Z for $7.5-$10k and it would be vastly superior in every category aside maybe sound. However i'm not a person that V8 sound is like rhino horn for and think the V6 sounds as good.

The Terminator is a whole other story. I would even consider trading my '14 GT for one.

I DID have a 350Z in the mid/early 2000s and the Mustang GT might as well have been a car from the 80s compared to it. I like Mustangs more than Zs overall but bought that because it was such a steal then (got it for 16k) and before that LS2 came in the GTO not much really touched it unless it was the 90s Jap turbo equivalents or corvettes.

To me it's Fox 5.0, Terminator, or something else.

Terminator is something I seriously lust for. That is is my favorite Mustang of all time. Of course many others feel this way which is why they cost the same as cars like the MK4 Supra and NSX.

Storz
Storz Dork
3/14/16 9:52 a.m.
Apexcarver wrote: Also noteworthy is the 1994-95 cobra which has the 302 pushrod motor (aka, the 5.0L), those cars get you better brakes and again, small engine differences over the GT. 96+ cobras have a whole different motor (DOHC vs the GT's SOHC) If you want a car to build, the 302 may be a good option as engine parts abound. The 96+ cars (other than the 03-04 cobra) pretty much only have an easy path of adding a supercharger.

Build goals would be geared more towards competent street handling, backroad carver type modifications.

Storz
Storz Dork
3/14/16 9:54 a.m.
kanaric wrote: Whenever i think of cars like this era cobra I think I could get a 350Z for $7.5-$10k and it would be vastly superior in every category aside maybe sound. However i'm not a person that V8 sound is like rhino horn for and think the V6 sounds as good.

And having a backseat for the kiddos, though I guess that could be accomplished with a G35 Coupe.

Storz
Storz Dork
3/14/16 10:07 a.m.

Just some pics for self motivation when the TDI is gone....

STM317
STM317 Reader
3/14/16 11:00 a.m.
Storz wrote: Just some pics for self motivation when the TDI is gone....

These pics remind me how much I need a wide-body Notch with Cobra IRS, a bunch of Maximum Motorsports stuff and a turbo 2.3 Duratec/Tremec combo.

Harvey
Harvey Dork
3/14/16 11:37 a.m.
Harvey wrote: Wow, Terminators are $20k? My neighbor wanted a Mach 1 when he went to the dealer in 2003, but they didn't have any so they gave him a fantastic deal on the Terminator, I don't think he paid much more than $24-25k IIRC.

My bad he got his for around $31k new.

mancha
mancha New Reader
3/14/16 11:58 a.m.
Opti wrote: A little off topic but what about the bullit is unobtanium, a local guy has one thats really clean, but I never noticed much on the outside besides a green GT. Its awfully pretty just curious about whats specific about it thats so rare, cosmetically that is.

Off the top of my head, the rocker panels along with the mud flap, which break easily, the side scoop delete panels and the throttle cables aren't produced anymore.

Fun facts: The side windows and panels are actually 94-95 pieces. The terminator rear spoiler and bumper were originally designed for the Bullitt concept.

Storz
Storz Dork
3/14/16 12:20 p.m.

Tightpants

Cooper_Tired
Cooper_Tired Reader
3/14/16 12:26 p.m.
Apexcarver wrote:
Storz wrote: Talk to me about Foxbody Cobras....
Rarer, limited production, not as many differences from the GT. only about 5k built and ones in good shape are held as investments at this point. The difference from a GT are a few body things, an intake, and rear discs. That said, you can easially upgrade a fox GT with better parts than the cobra parts.

This. The heads and camshaft are also different. They came with the "GT40" heads that later ended up on the explorer, and 1.7 ratio rocker arms.

The front and rear brakes are unique to the car. They came with 17" wheels, different ground effects and a different spoiler.

Storz
Storz Dork
3/14/16 2:27 p.m.

So how rare are these? The Mustang rabbit-hole is SO deep......

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
3/14/16 2:37 p.m.

dont know much on them numbers wise. I mean, I know that they are basically a fox mustang akin to a GT to my best recollection.

At that age, the bigger question can be how many are still around.

personally, if going full fox, I would love to rework a '78 Zypher with later fox mustang GT and aftermarket bits. Might need the fenders reworked a bit, but could be awesome and unexpected. Plus its slab sided, so easy to rework the flares to allow big meaty tires and lowering.

With some work it could be mean.

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