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dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
5/2/17 7:31 p.m.

Wonder if that is fixable? Lots of sheet metal damage but really can not tell if there is structural damage. Money wise it may not make sense to fix it but if it was my dads I would consider it especially if it is a keeper and not just an investment that is to be cashed in later.

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
5/2/17 7:38 p.m.
GTXVette wrote:
mad_machine wrote: only you can prevent ford on ford crime. Seriously that sucks. I didn't even know the Torino Cobra jet Existed until now
If you like that one you should have seen the Talladega, Or the King Cobra Wallens posted the other Night

I knew about the King Cobra. There was a guy around here 20 years ago that used his as a DD. It sounded mean, but really, the 5.0 at that time was only putting out 205hp, so it probably was not any slower than a "new" Mustang GT

stuart in mn
stuart in mn UltimaDork
5/2/17 7:59 p.m.
mad_machine wrote:
GTXVette wrote:
mad_machine wrote: only you can prevent ford on ford crime. Seriously that sucks. I didn't even know the Torino Cobra jet Existed until now
If you like that one you should have seen the Talladega, Or the King Cobra Wallens posted the other Night
I knew about the King Cobra. There was a guy around here 20 years ago that used his as a DD. It sounded mean, but really, the 5.0 at that time was only putting out 205hp, so it probably was not any slower than a "new" Mustang GT

Different King Cobra, this one was based on a Torino: https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0116-229792/1970-ford-torino-king-cobra/

BrokenYugo
BrokenYugo MegaDork
5/3/17 12:24 a.m.

In reply to dean1484:

If you pull up the highres in a new tab it does looks like most of the energy went into the rear half of the door and the quarter panel/door jamb which was ripped clean off the rocker. I'd guess the big question is how much damage banging the axle sideways did. Nothing enough money and frame rack can't fix.

GTXVette
GTXVette HalfDork
5/3/17 7:40 a.m.

Sorry Mad Machine, I am from a different Time and just visiting this one, I don't call Any Mustang a COBRA. a Cobra was Built in England By AC Bristol Co. Ford chose to use the Cobra name Tag on MANY Car lines but If the car was a Cobra Jet powered it was Bad Ass. 428/429 CI. The 8's are FE and 9's are Different engines .

Toyman01
Toyman01 MegaDork
5/3/17 9:39 a.m.

So, the owner got a good look at the car yesterday. A walk around shows the fastback sail panel on the drivers side, is also bent, and the drivers door gaps are off. That means the entire car body is no longer straight. That's not a good sign.

Woody
Woody MegaDork
5/5/17 6:56 p.m.
conesare2seconds
conesare2seconds Dork
5/5/17 7:45 p.m.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
5/6/17 6:45 a.m.
Toyman01 wrote: So, the owner got a good look at the car yesterday. A walk around shows the fastback sail panel on the drivers side, is also bent, and the drivers door gaps are off. That means the entire car body is no longer straight. That's not a good sign.

That is not a good start but with cars of that vintage they are very fixable. There just are not that many parts or systems in them. Two guys and two hours I bet could have it stripped down and ready for the frame machien.

Call me nuts but I would consider fixing that as a project. Strip it down my self. Then send it to my guy that can pull it. Then just purchas as much of the sheet metal as possible and bolt it back together. Add paint and you have a nice weekend driver. It is never going to be original after this but it does not mean it can not live on as a fun weekend car.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
5/6/17 6:48 a.m.

My biggest reason for being interested in fixing it is if it is a rust free car. I would rather fix that then chase rust through a car.

NOHOME
NOHOME PowerDork
5/6/17 8:09 a.m.

If I managed to fix this mess, then a professional should be able to fix that easy enough.

The owner of the MGB was lucky in that I was able to send him to a shop where they pulled the chassis and took pains to make sure all the gaps came back to where they should be. Then it was just a simple case of me removing crumpled panels and installing new ones.

The problem I see is that your insurance company wont let you do a pull and then decide if you want to fix it or buy it back; you need to decide before you settle with the insurance company.

Saving this MGB was not a sound financial move; owner could have bought the best MGB on the planet for less than he will have into this one by the time he is done. Insurance money will only cover about half the restoration cost. The good news is that he is putting it back together to a high standard that should outlast him.

If it was me, I would want to keep the car.

Toyman01
Toyman01 MegaDork
5/6/17 8:22 a.m.

I don't know what he will end up doing. At this point, he's waiting on the insurance companies to fight it out.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
5/6/17 11:26 a.m.

I took a closer look at the photo on my pc and there is a bend at the top of the B piller.

NOHOME
NOHOME PowerDork
5/7/17 7:20 a.m.
dean1484 wrote: I took a closer look at the photo on my pc and there is a bend at the top of the B piller.

This one? I missed that. I don't think this one is going to come back unless someone tells me they are worth silly money.

TRoglodyte
TRoglodyte UltraDork
5/7/17 7:40 a.m.

429 Cobra jet that belonged to my dad? I'd fix it, now get off my lawn.

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
5/7/17 8:09 a.m.

The bad and good thing about these cars is how pliable they are. Ford used the minimum amount of sheetmetal.

So straightening it might be as simple as putting tension longitudinally on the car while pulling the floor/pillar back out.

APEowner
APEowner Reader
5/7/17 9:04 a.m.

I doubt it makes sense from a strict financial standpoint but that's definitely fixable.

rslifkin
rslifkin Dork
5/7/17 9:49 a.m.
APEowner wrote: I doubt it makes sense from a strict financial standpoint but that's definitely fixable.

Agreed. There's a big difference between what the numbers say should be fixed and what can be fixed.

RealMiniParker
RealMiniParker UberDork
5/7/17 10:41 a.m.
TRoglodyte wrote: 429 Cobra jet that belonged to my dad? I'd fix it, now get off my lawn.
APEowner wrote: I doubt it makes sense from a strict financial standpoint but that's definitely fixable.

These.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
5/7/17 6:13 p.m.
NOHOME wrote:
dean1484 wrote: I took a closer look at the photo on my pc and there is a bend at the top of the B piller.
This one? I missed that. I don't think this one is going to come back unless someone tells me they are worth silly money.

Yep. Looks like the whole back end is punched up and over.

still very fixable. I would fix it if it was mine. These really are very easy to take apart. A good frame guy would have that back strait in two days. I hope it is fixed. That is a really cool car. I would be interested in that as a project. I have fixed worse. There is just a process you have to go through. I also know what I can do and what to have the pros do. I do the mechanical and disassembly. Pay a good frame guy and a body guy to do there thing. I would do all the disassembly and re assembly. There would be s substantial amount of $$$ out of Pickett but it is such a cool car it would be worth it. With today's frame machines and a experienced person working it I bet they could get that back better than it came from the factory.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
5/7/17 6:17 p.m.

If they fix it the big issue is going to be the diminished value claim. I bet it is totaled just to avoid that. I hope the owner buys it back and fixes it. If not I would love to get a crack at purchasing it from the insurance company.

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltraDork
5/7/17 6:39 p.m.

I don't remember if somebody mentioned it yet...

Get that Russian BMW fixing guy on this. He'll have it fixed in 12 minutes!

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UberDork
5/7/17 7:45 p.m.
wvumtnbkr wrote: I don't remember if somebody mentioned it yet... Get that Russian BMW fixing guy on this. He'll have it fixed in 12 minutes!

25 minutes if the video isn't sped up.

Chadeux
Chadeux Dork
5/7/17 8:36 p.m.

In reply to ebonyandivory:

Are you suggesting that you don't fix things in time lapse mode?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
5/7/17 8:56 p.m.

Hey, anything can be fixed as long as the VIN plate survives. Ferrari owners know this

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